Submitted by
Ed Gomez
a Weekend Warrior
from San Gabriel, California Date Reviewed: March 9, 2008
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$300.00
Strengths:
Great bike considering there are newer models. Strong frame and great looks. Great buy considering I got it with all the upgrades I could think of. Even came with Spin 3-spoke composite wheelset.
Weaknesses:
So far the only thing I could say would be weight but once you get going its not really that bad.
Bike Setup:
All Shimano parts, Rock Shox Judy C fork, Bontrager handlebars, Spin 3-spoke wheelset, PanaRacer tires, Specialized seat and computer.
Bottom Line:
This is a great bike and with the upgrades I challenge any other bike to compare. Not a bad bike considering its not the most expensive. I do recomend this bike for anyone who is looking to get into the full suspension line.
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Submitted by
Bryan
a Cross Country Rider
from Norman, OK, USA Date Reviewed: July 8, 2007
Favorite Trail:
any
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$1099.00
Purchased At:
Al's Bicycles (Norman)
Strengths:
Very Strong Frame, the rear Lockout is awesome and was very low maintenance. Really took a beating and was my daily rider about 2-3 hrs a day I finally had to retire it until i have the funds to fix it.
Weaknesses:
Front shock was weak but $15 on new stiffer springs fixed that, the genesis geometry gave it personality but once I got used to it I couldn't imagine a better design for an aggressive rider like myself. I did have to replace the rear derailer, the saddle and the front springs.
Similar Products Used:
Gary Fisher Sugar 4
Bottom Line:
I taco'd both the rims and a titanium aftermarket saddle in one wreck and its been sitting outside for about 3 and half years, here pretty soon I'm planning on rebuilding. It was a great bike if you do't mind the weight(31 lb.), frankly to me that isn't that bad.
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Submitted by
firstcut
a Cross Country Rider
from mi Date Reviewed: July 27, 2006
Favorite Trail:
A2
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$350.00
Purchased At:
ebay
Strengths:
Awesome geometry, durable, cant beat the price for the bike
Weaknesses:
Yes as many has said, chainsuck. But only happens on step hills mashing the pedals and switching gears. I jus learned how to shift it the way it wants to be. But i think most bikes do this under these conditions. Some components can be upgraded, but i will do this when and if the break down.
Similar Products Used:
deptmart store bikes
Bike Setup:
all stock
Bottom Line:
I love this bike i bought 2 of them from ebay both for 350$ 1 was completely mint. Its a great xc bike done some light freeriding with it. I wouldnt recomend lots of free riding or dh with this bike with out upgrading some of the compoments. You will love this bike if your new to mountainbiking. Good for beginers-inter. The value cant be beat you wont be sorry buying this bike.
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Submitted by
Jim Hooverado
a Weekend Warrior
from Flatland, NE, USA Date Reviewed: May 12, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Dietrich
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$900.00
Strengths:
Just got back from Moab. Highly adaptable. Cast iron frame withstood rocks, sand, and lightning. The weight kept the bike in contact with the ground at all times.
Weaknesses:
None.
Similar Products Used:
1965 Chrysler Newport
Bike Setup:
My reengineering of the gear ratios (I put a 17 on the front chain ring), saddled two 1/2 bushel bags across the back to hold my cans of soup and fourteen 20 ounce bottles of frozen water.
Bottom Line:
We rode for four days and my jeans never got caught in the chain once. I did experience a broken link and my friends gave me a "pro-link" from their kit. This earned my affectionate nickname of "fiddy-cent" because of the gold color of the link.
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Submitted by
Karl
a Cross Country Rider
from Centerville, Ohio Date Reviewed: June 13, 2004
Favorite Trail:
The wilds, zanesville. Caesar's creek, HArveysburg all ohio
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$900.00
Strengths:
Overall the bike was a perfect fit. I am Six foot tall and it works. I have seen my friends go through frame after frame after frame. Mine is five years old and still rocking.
Weaknesses:
Only weakness was at first on climbs. Front wheel would not stay on the ground for me. Turned the stem over for a negative angle and that went away.
Similar Products Used:
Tried ten set ups at that time it was the right bike for me.
Bike Setup:
Nothing is original on it. Disc all around, 5 inch fork new wheels, xt front and rear, Cane creek rear shock.
Bottom Line:
The bottom line for me is I can kick most of my friends butts with My heavy bike. At two hundred pounds I have not broken the frame, even when I hit the occasional three foot drops. Down hills no problem. Any one endoing on this bike needs to ride more. This bike is great for any one wanting a durible bike. I would ride it till the parts break before upgrading.
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Submitted by
Rusty
a Downhiller
from Pacific Grove CA USA Date Reviewed: July 18, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Chamberlain Chutes colorado springs, CO
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$400.00
Purchased At:
garage sale
Strengths:
Rear lock out, Good Components
Weaknesses:
needs a larger rear shock, needs disc brakes and rims could be stronger
Similar Products Used:
Diamond back sorrento and lots of bikes that deserved to be burned.
Bike Setup:
new seat and soon getting better rims, disc brakes and maybe a lareger rear shock.
Bottom Line:
perfect for beginers who want a xc capable bike and strong enough to take medium hits.
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Submitted by
ian
a
from nelson, new zealand Date Reviewed: March 30, 2003
Favorite Trail:
penzance-elaine bay loop
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$700.00
Purchased At:
fellow rider
Strengths:
simple design, low stand over height, easy to carry frame style, relatively light for age. genesis geometry.
Weaknesses:
bottom bracket mounted derailler! tendancy to endo on steep descents. paint on rear triangle.
Similar Products Used:
shogun prarie breaker, gary fisher montare, specialized stumpjumper
Treated me well this bike. Keeps up with the hard tail lads welll enough on the climbs (especially rough trail) then shows them what's what on the descent. Great single track bike. Not so good with triple clamps in tight steering situations. Nasty over the bars stuff on really steep technical tracks if rider weight is not WELL back.
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Submitted by
Rusty
a Cross Country Rider
from New Bern, NC, USA Date Reviewed: December 15, 2002
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$400.00
Strengths:
Cheap, Durable and easy to maintain.
Weaknesses:
A little on the heavy side and a little too much bobbing in the rear but the On the fly damping does help.
Similar Products Used:
Diamondback sorrento,2001.
Bike Setup:
all stock except new lola seat.
Bottom Line:
This bike is great for beginers in the XC style of biking. It is cheap yet durable and can take just about anything you can do to it. I recomend this bike to all people who enjoy mountain biking but don't want to pay three thousand bucks.
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Submitted by
Will Garrity
a Weekend Warrior
from Havertown PA, USA Date Reviewed: October 11, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Marsh Creek
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$600.00
Purchased At:
Bike Line
Strengths:
Pretty much everything, damping on the fly really is great for uphills.
Weaknesses:
Front shock, not much travel. Brake Levers are crap and the pedals are not grippy enough, i slipped on lots of stuff with the velo tires. Drivetrain needs some upgrades. Heavy
Similar Products Used:
Trek 8000, Sugar 1, 2
Bike Setup:
Speed V seat, bont crowbar handlebar, LX levers, Psylo Race fork, XTR rear der., Bont Jones tires, DK iron cross pedals
Bottom Line:
Great lookin bike and great price for a good full suspension. i love it, some upgrades are needed if you are doing some serious trail riding like me. not great for XC since it does have bob while pedaling. FISHER Rocks!!
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Submitted by
Wade
a Downhiller
from Billings, MT Date Reviewed: June 19, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Downhill
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$1100.00
Purchased At:
scheels sporting goods
Strengths:
great looks, quick shifting, damping on the fly, good fork
Weaknesses:
weak ass rims and handle bars.
Similar Products Used:
i-drive
Bike Setup:
Big mamma mammoths (rims), new handle bars, new seat.
Bottom Line:
This bike kicks butt on the DH and XC. I've taken my bike off some mad cliffs and the bike took them with a smile. Bobbing is kept to as little as possible on the XC trails. I rarly need the damping and when I do use it, it is only for extended uphill trails. There are lighter bikes out there but they cost 2500 bucks, so I'm not to upset about the weight of the F4. For the price you can't find a better dually
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Submitted by
Rob
a Cross Country Rider
from Morrison, CO 80465 Date Reviewed: October 20, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Dakota Ridge/White Ranch
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
A very light bike, especially for the 1999 product release in which the full suspension bikes were just coming into their own. It is very efficient on the climbs and is also very solid on the descents.
Weaknesses:
Very few. The only thing I can thing of is the frame design forces some modifications to carry this bike on alot of racks. Also, placing the water bottle on the bottom of the down tube is a
Similar Products Used:
GT XCR 4000 I-Drive (3 years). Test rode Gary Fisher Sugar 1 and Sugar 2 for both 2001 and 2002.
Bike Setup:
Relatively stock configuration with the rear derailleur replaced with a Deore XT. Also, the rear wheel was replaced.
Bottom Line:
This is a great bike for those wishing to switch to a full-suspension bike but not looking to pay $3000 for a decent bike. It performs admirably on the climbs and descends well on some of the toughest trails in the Colorado front-range. Overall it is a very well made bike with terrific value for the money.
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Submitted by
Shaazia
a Downhiller
from Morrison, CO USA Date Reviewed: October 15, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Apex - Morrison, CO
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
Bicycle Pedlar
Strengths:
This was my first mountain bike. I loved it. It has taken alot of beating from me and has held up great. I didn't replace any of the stock parts, except for the pedals and seats. It has been taken on some of the rough trails in CO and UT.
Weaknesses:
The rear suspension dampening is a little iffy. It was pretty hard to carry this bike on my shoulders when I needed to do some really technical climbs on the trail. I think it's just because of the frame shape. Also, if you like to use a water bottle and not a camel back, be prepared to suck down some dirt. The only location suitable for a bottle cage is at the very bottom of the bike. It gets caked with dirt.
Similar Products Used:
Compared to my husband's I-drive... this bike rules!
Bike Setup:
All stock except new Shimano pedals. Night Rider lighting system.
Bottom Line:
This is an excellent bike for the entry level mountain biker who likes to ride on some rough terrain. The bike climbs well and is pretty light weight. Downhill it maintains control and can take some pretty brutal drops. I would definitely suggest this bike to anyone just starting out off-road. Probably wouldn't get another one just because I would like to move to something more suitable for racing.
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Submitted by
Wit-Dog
a Weekend Warrior
from Portsmouth, Virginia Date Reviewed: June 2, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Anything with dirt and mud!!!
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
Scat Bikes (Churchland, Portsmouth, Va)
Strengths:
Rear "Lock-Out" is definitely a plus, brakes are good, rear suspension, and just having a FISHER rox!!
Weaknesses:
"Lock-Out" cable does not want to stay in the housing assembly. ONLY PROBLEM!! Oh, grips, seat post and handlebars that came with it kinda suck
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale - Police basic model
Bike Setup:
New crowbar 9 degree race handlebars, Selle Royal gel seat, Velociraptor tires(Trails) and Slickasaurus(road) tires, black and red graphics
Bottom Line:
Have only tested this bike a few times. Although I just put 242 miles on it in 2 days with slicks on it, and locked out!! The good thing about this bike is it can be converted from road to mountain bike very easily. You must replace the seat, handlebars and grips right away. But overall, you can't beat the quality for what you pay. I will start putting some off-road miles on it soon, and I will get back with another review then. The only problems with this bike is the lockout system, the cable gets stuck in the housing, and the tube holding it in strips out. Gary should replace it though with no problems, heard his warranty service is outstanding (we'll see) AWESOME bike, and a definite head turner!! Highly recommend to anyone, beginner to pro!!
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Submitted by
Jordan
a Cross Country Rider
from Summerhill Pa Date Reviewed: May 13, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Nut Nurisher
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
tested at Trailside Bikes
Strengths:
The bike is a strong bike from what i discovered. It has good parts on it. Comfortable also. Looks nice. Also I think it was reasonably priced.
Weaknesses:
When I rode it around the dealer's yard, it was really bouncy, due to the fact that it is a ful suspension. When you pedal,you bounce. But the bike does have a lock for te rear suspension which will make it a hard tail. So it isn't a bad bike due to the bouncing.
Similar Products Used:
94 Schwinn frontier- First mountain bike. good for a beginner looking for a $200.00 bike who isn't really into the sport. 99 Gary Fisher Pure Bender Spin, this was my baby until i sold it. I still see it once in a while when myfriend, who bought it from me rides down to Summerhill. It is a Freestyle bike. Good bike to start out on and to set up better upgrades on.
Bike Setup:
Instead of buying the F4, i bought a '00 Gary Fisher HOO KOO E KOO. I love the bike. No regrets buying it.But sometimes I wish I had the F4.
Bottom Line:
The F4 is a good bike. I thik it is alot btter than the Giant Warp DS2, which I almost bought... On Ebay, brand new from a dealer. But from the reviews I read, the bike has an awful frame. I hear it breaks. So if it ever comes down to am F4 or a DS2, get the F4. The F4 I demo'd was a left over from '99, which is equal to the '00 F3. In the end,(like I said up in Bike setup,) I bought a Hoo koo e koo, by fisher. No regrets. Good bike. You can read my review on i also. It is a 2000 model.
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Submitted by
Brad McDonnell
a Downhiller
from Adelaide, South Australia,Australia Date Reviewed: May 4, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Mt Lofty
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$500.00
Purchased At:
cash converters
Strengths:
I love this bike, it holds up to everything that i have thrown at it.
Weaknesses:
There are no real weaknesses it might be a bit heavy but i dont care that can only make me better.
A great bike for doing jumps and DH. I find it easy to manuver through trees and is also good on the local BMX jumps. This bike gets better as you upgrade components so upgrade and dont wait for things to break.
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Submitted by
Igal
a Weekend Warrior
from Israel Date Reviewed: May 2, 2001
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Dumping on the fly is great. Front suspension is good. Balance on downhill path is great.
Weaknesses:
Rear suspension is bobing. Bike is too heavy, and balancing on ascent really need an extra effort to keep traction with the rear wheel.
Bottom Line:
These bikes are good for first timers and recreational cross country, for sure not for racing.
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Submitted by
DC
a Weekend Warrior
from Marlboro MA Date Reviewed: February 10, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Killer 290 in Marlboro MA--want directions and a map--send me an email
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
Cycle Loft in Burlington
Strengths:
Durability,
Weaknesses:
weight, rear shock dampening design, Alivio crank
Similar Products Used:
too many to list
Bike Setup:
Hayes Hydraulics, Mavic 317 w/XT hubs, XT crank with L72 BB, XT front/rear derailers, XT cassetteVeloraptor tires--original Judy C fork and Rock Shox Deluxe rear shock
Bottom Line:
The bike has over 4500 miles on it and I still am running the original fork and rear shock (Judy C and Rock Shox Deluxe). Everything else has been replaced. Both rims were shot! The front had 3 flat spots and the rear was begining to wear through from the V brakes after about 3000 miles (1.5 yrs). I made the decision to go with disk brakes seeing how I had to replace the rims. I chose Hayes hydraulics, mostly because they are the benchmark of disk brakes. I just installed them over the holidays. They feel pretty good after a few packed snow rides and a raod ride or two (I just love MA--damn cold weather and snow). I'm bringing the bike out to Sedona in two weeks for some pounding. I have nothing bad to say about the bike. It has taken everything from rare cleanings to beatings at Killington and Mt Snow . The big complaints I had were with the cheap crank and rear shock dampening design. I had the dampening housing TIG welded because it kept falling out (cost me a 12 pac of Bud). I spent about $700 on the disks with rims&hubs. Well worth it though. I know there are some really good deals on 2000 and even 2001 bike models that come with a decent mix of components and disks. But I decided to stick with the J4. If you do decide to go with disk brakes on the Joshua, the only disk model that fits the rear frame mount (22mm) is the Hayes Hydraulic. Every other maker is designed for the 74mm mounting. I installed the Hayes HMX-1 mechanical disk brakes on a friend's bike recently. Those things are pretty sweet by the way. RIDE ON!!! DC
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Submitted by
Gus
a Cross Country Rider
from Pullman, WA USA Date Reviewed: January 31, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Oval Office
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
B and L Bicycles
Strengths:
Name it! The Joshua F4 has treated me better than any dog or girlfriend I've ever had and the way it handles the slopes makes it a heck of a lot more fun than a hardtail. I've read alot of reviews about the bobbing but that is what a full suspension does....or use the lock out and it climbs fine. The real strength is the downhill by far though....very tight!!!
Weaknesses:
weight...
Similar Products Used:
never had to leave my Joshua
Bike Setup:
stiffened the front springs...changed the crank and the rear tire...changed the seat
Bottom Line:
Buy this bike....it is the best deal on the market and will last forever. I am a heavier guy, close to 215 and this bike has been jumping stairs, drops, logs and anything else that has gotten between me and the bottom of the Mt.. Frame= a+ Ride = a+ suspension= a+ weight= b- looks= a+
The grade point average on this thing is still like a 3.85 how can you lose for the $1000? Great bike for beginners but will stand up to experts!
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Submitted by
Steve
a Cross Country Rider
from NJ Date Reviewed: December 19, 2000
Favorite Trail:
narrow winding ones with rocks, roots, logs, etc.
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
Action Wheels
Strengths:
the frame is durable and demands to be punished
low maintenance
Weaknesses:
heavy
URT suspension design isn't perfect (but works well enough)
I've been prone to breaking rear shocks, I wonder if it's because of the frame design
Original stock components were weak, but the bike was cheap so what do you expect?
Similar Products Used:
none, just my steel and aluminum hardtails
Bike Setup:
X-Vert Super (just slapped it on the other day but haven't ridden it yet), Stratos Helix Pro, XT/LX, Bonty Crow Bar, Thomson post, big fat Titec saddle, Bonty Jones tires
Bottom Line:
This bike is fun. I said FUN.
It won't win races, so don't race it.
If you like climbing long fireroads, you won't like the rear suspension, but turn the little knob and you've got a heavy hardtail to make fireroads a little better. You'll think it climbs great on tight, technical singletrack.
The bike likes being abused, 2 or 3 foot wheelie drops are it's favorite kind of abuse. Going downhill is fun. Try to stay seated if you can, drop the saddle if you have to. The suspension decreases by about half when you're standing.
There is some funkiness in the suspension under hard front braking. It's just a little funky. Maybe this happens every now and then, but not often enough to get pissed off and throw the bike off a cliff.
Some people say the bike bobs, and sometimes it does. It depends on if you're spinning the cranks, or mashing them. I haven't found bob to be an issue.
One time I felt as if the rear suspension was packing up on me during a rocky descent. I think I had screwed up the air pressure that time.
It's not perfect, but neither am I, you, or any other bike that anyone else is riding, so there you have it...
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Submitted by
Robb
a Cross Country Rider
from CLeveland Date Reviewed: October 18, 2000
Favorite Trail:
local
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Strengths:
it turns heads if fun to fly downhills
Weaknesses:
A heavy mushy bobbing black mass. everything else. Overpriced (spend the money on a sweet hardtail instead.)
Similar Products Used:
Trek VRX
Bike Setup:
Stock, with bar ends
Bottom Line:
A fun bike. you wouldnt want it for a race but it is a fun all around bike. It is very cheap and there are some upgrades you can make (fenders, seat, seatpost, fork and riser bars) that can make this bike into a down hill machine. I think that some people buy this bike because they want to look cool or they think this is the hottest thing on the marked which it is not. The bike is fair it is very mushy and the front end stiff as a rock. I had severe dificulty climbing even short hills because the bike bobbed too much. The componenets aren't near top of the line and i would suggest spending the 1000$ on a sweet hardtail instead of a bottom of the line FS biike.
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Submitted by
Renate Fournier-Sullivan
a Cross Country Rider
from Kirkland Lake, Ontario Canada Date Reviewed: September 17, 2000
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
Rouyn-Noranda, Quebec - Canada
Strengths:
For the price I paid (approx $1,700 Canadian - taxes in) I must say that this bike was definitelly worth it! The ride is very plush and I have had absolutelly no problems with any of the components except for the rear shock which was defective...but immediatelly replaced by the dealer. I am very impressed with the quality and it looks damn nice too!
Weaknesses:
As I mentioned above, the rear shock...but no sweat, that was replaced immediatelly. Just this year I experienced a little ghost shifting....(time to upgrade I guess!)
Similar Products Used:
Joshua X-1
Bike Setup:
Stock
Bottom Line:
Overall, great ride, great frame and have begun planning for some upgrades....but I definitelly can't complain! I recently had back surgery about 2 years ago and purchased this bike for rehabilitation. Because of the smooth, plush ride, I would strongly recommend this bike for anyone who might be just starting off and had similar concerns as I had when making my final decision.
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Submitted by
John Scurvy
a Weekend Warrior
from westbury Ny US Date Reviewed: September 16, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Stillwell
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$700.00
Strengths:
It is really light.. It is quick, and it has great handleing. The breaks are awesome,( i wish i have breaks like that on my car). The tires are crazy awesome. It is all around a great bike for the price..
Weaknesses:
The seat is a little hard, but i got used to it..
Similar Products Used:
Raven, FSR
Bottom Line:
It is great on the trails.. It is light so it is easier to get over the logs that block the way. It shifts "rapidly". The breaks are the best that i have ever had. It is a little hard to use for trials but all full suspension bikes are, and you can get it down. The performance is excellent. Climbing hills are much easier and more fun. I can get a lot of air with it. the Joshua F4 is a really stirdy bike.
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Submitted by
Mark
a Weekend Warrior
from Palos, IL Date Reviewed: September 7, 2000
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$900.00
Strengths:
This frame can take a beating...price...smooth over any terrain...looks great...rear lockout...price...and it's a Fisher.
Weaknesses:
None.
Similar Products Used:
Super V 400, Spec. FSR, GT XCR 4000
Bike Setup:
Stock, will upgrade as components wear out.
Bottom Line:
This bike takes everything I can throw at it. Rocks, mud, gravel, sand, singletrack, swithchbacks, drops, stairs, jumps, you name it. It is a good "all around bike" that you can use for DH or XC. Did I mention it climbs great for a dually.
If you are looking for a DH race bike, get a rig specifically made for that-Intense M1. Same goes for XC, if you plan on racing XC get a hard tail.
You really can't complain about this bike for the price. "Weight"...It's lighter than the Super V and the I-drive, if you want a light XC-bike get a hardtail. "Pogo-effect"...Get the spring that corresponds with you body weight, or just upgrade the rear shock. "Components"...It has good components for an entry level bike, the same frame as the F-1. If you do not like the components cough up the extra $1700 for the F-1 or just upgrade the parts when they need replacing, it's just that easy.
The Joshua is for anyone looking for a good all around mountain bike that is worthy of upgrades in the future.
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Submitted by
allen
a Racer
from Pittsgrove, NJ Date Reviewed: September 6, 2000
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$500.00
Purchased At:
ebay
Strengths:
The frame is definitly the strength...feels good under you and tracks well....judy Hydracoil has alot of setup control(springs/oil)...dampening control for rear adjustment and lockout of rear shock nice...great looks, a definite head turner......
Weaknesses:
can't complain with the f4, but will replace all worn or broken parts with upgraded parts.....
i train 4 days a week on the bike...i race xc and downhill on the weekends.....i am an ex-A class enduro racer(41 yrs. old)...i like the fact that i can dial in the judy shocks...yes there is better shocks out there but i am able to dial in the hydrocoils fo either flats, mud, rocks, and whatever terrain i am confronted with by oil or spring adjustment...rear shock is good but my advice is to have the right weight spring for your weight and your riding style...also the dampening adjuster on the bars is great also for adjustment on the fly and for climbing lockout...the frame is definitly upgradeable to what ever need you have...i would just get the aluminum rear triangle as on the f3....componets hold up well as long as proper adjustments are followed....also a good bath after every ride helps keep componets and frame looking nice(more advice is to spray bolt heads, chain, etc. with a fine mist of wd-40 or similar and wipe with a clean rag when done to keep looking new and disperse any hidden water/soap)...i thrash the bike training, xc races, downhill races, and with proper maintenace and adjustments it looks and rides as good as the day i bought it....i also like the cheapo brakes on the bike...after adjusting the front brakes with the play i like, i stop well in dry or rain.....i know this is the bottom of the joshua line but it is a great bike, definitly upgradeable, can be used by weekend warriors to hard core racers....you get what you make from the bike.....i love it and that is what counts....
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Submitted by
charlie
a
from nyc Date Reviewed: September 4, 2000
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
frank's bike shop
Strengths:
price, looks, ok components
Weaknesses:
weight, pogo effect, (did i mention weight)
Similar Products Used:
gt, raleigh,
Bike Setup:
completely stock, except street slick tires
Bottom Line:
ok bike, held up well, no shock problems etc. But, way to heavy if you want an all around bike you can use in the streets as well as the trails. also, if lockout was'nt engaged there was alot of up and down pogo effect when stomping down on pedals, making the rear shock kinda like an extra weight to drag around since it wasnt efficient. all in all a good inexpensive dh bike, but definitely not a good commuter/trail/ bike. was glad to sell it and get something lighter making use of more efficient pedaling
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Submitted by
Richard Zdriluk
a Weekend Warrior
from Burlington, Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: June 29, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Waterdown-Dundas
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Built super strong the Timex of bikes. Good on the road excellant on the trails. Great value for your dollar. Will buy another when I wear this one out
Weaknesses:
Had both shocks replaced broke the springs in the front and the seal was leaking in the rear. The paint is starting to peal off the bottom crank and rear brackets.
Bike Setup:
Changed to Panaracers on both front and rear slight over size on the front. Added Hayes disc brake ( Cable) on the front for better control. Looking at Easton Ea70 Monkey bars but have not made my mind up yet, Stayed with clips.
Bottom Line:
A great bike, no more back pain after long rides, a dream when doing road work ( with semi slicks) and excellant on the trails. The shift on the FLY control for the rear shock is absoultley the greastest thing and you should check it out if you ride something other than a Gary Fisher. I am suprised that other have not built this into there systems.
Would I but another? DAM RIGHT I WOULD,
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keli
a Downhiller
from east longmeadow, ma Date Reviewed: June 25, 2000
Favorite Trail:
mt snow downhill
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
all around bike, durable, multi purpose, good for beginner everything.
Weaknesses:
comes with all LX components, needs upgrades, Rock Shock Judy C = not a lot of travel!!! This bike is too heavy for regular XC riding, and not built up enough for DH'ing
Bike Setup:
judy C hydrocoil front fork, rock shox deluxe rear susp., shimano cranks,rear and front derailleurs, sachs chain, WTB saddle, Mavic rims, and velociraptor wheels...v brakes, rapid fire shifting, upgraded to race face DH stem and head set. (came with Ahead set, and bottom of the barrel generic stem). Also comes with on the fly rear shock lock out.
Bottom Line:
I use this bike for my downhill racing, even though it isn't really a full fledged DH bike, it serves it's purpose. I put tioga factory 66 2.3 DH tires on it, a chain tensioner, a race face DH stem, and I am good to go until I am good enough to upgrade to an intense M1!!!!!! This bike was inexpensive and has been thru a lot with me and it has held up really well. It is great for a first time full suspension buyer....good for XC riding, don't buy it if you want a real DH bike.
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Patrice Ninaud
a Weekend Warrior
from Austin, Tx Date Reviewed: May 27, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Emma Long and Muleshoe Bend
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Great Handling, Good suspension, Nothing has broken, Comfortable, low maintenance, and very good-looking!
Weaknesses:
A tad heavy, hard seat, flimsy lockout cable attachment, and rear suspension tends to pogo up and down as you accelerate.
Similar Products Used:
None – this is my first mountain bike
Bike Setup:
New Seat.
Bottom Line:
I ride about twice a week and favor single track, and rocky down hills. This bike keeps performing better and better as my skills increase. It loves tight single track and handles very well, especially when you get aggressive. The low bars really help to get some body weight over the front tire for more control at speed. Climbing is really good when the “lock-out” is applied. I just put a new chain on and changed the fork oil, after 8 months, and it works like new! The rear shock weeps a bit of oil, but the bike is good enough to warrant a Cane Creek A-10 upgrade. I got a good deal at $825, its too bad that Gary Fisher downgraded the 2000 F4. I recommend passing up the 2000 F4 and get the better F2 for the shock with a lockout, better forks and wheels. If you are looking for an entry-level FS bike that is worthy of upgrades this is it! If you can find a discounted 1999 F4 – BUY IT!! Thanks for all the great reviews; I come to MTBR before making any purchase!
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John Morrissey
a Cross Country Rider
from Townsend Massachusetts Date Reviewed: April 20, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Leomister statae forest
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Hefty hefty hefty! Built like an F-350. You can beat this pig like a red headed stepchild and it keep coming back for more. I have had the older and LIGHTER X-1 for two years. Im 250 lbs and have beat the Fecal matter out of it.
Weaknesses:
Other than being heavy there are no weaknesses with the bike. Just the company Tech support is lacking to say the least.
Similar Products Used:
Kona Stinky,Spec. FSR,
Bike Setup:
Magura hs-33,judy xl sun mammoth rims,XT drive, michelin Hot-s tires,Titec seat post saddle stem and bars
Bottom Line:
This thing can not DIE!!!!!!!!!!
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Jeff Marx
a Weekend Warrior
from Escondido, CA USA Date Reviewed: March 5, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Daley Ranch
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Durability and affordability. Great value for the money.
Weaknesses:
Rear Shock, leaks and binds up.
Similar Products Used:
Specialized FSR
Bike Setup:
upgraded pedals to Shimano 636
Bottom Line:
Great bike, the rear shock lock out is problematic, though I have heard other bike mfg have had problems too. Great replacement for my Mongoose hardtail.
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Submitted by
toby s,c
a Racer
from easley s.c Date Reviewed: December 16, 1999
Favorite Trail:
issaqueena lake trail
Duration Product Used:
tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
great fork and light for a full shock bike
Weaknesses:
no disk brakes
Similar Products Used:
gary fisher jousha xo
Bike Setup:
judy rock shock xt
Bottom Line:
go for a all around cyclist. a do aany thing bike for any one
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Michael Conley
a Weekend Warrior
from Irvine, CA Date Reviewed: December 14, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Whiting Ranch
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
Dampening Rear Shock. Single piviot rear shock design, and set-up for future disk brakes.
Weaknesses:
I haven't had trouble with the rear shock (yet) but I have heard that it has the tendency to leak.
Similar Products Used:
GT 3000 Canondale
Bike Setup:
Exchanged components to XTR. (best thing I did)and clipless pedals Stock F4 shocks, brakes, shifters, hubs.
Bottom Line:
With the single pivit rear shock, and the components that I upgraded to, it would be hard to find a similar bike for the money that I spent. I am not a racer or a extreem biker. I ride 2-3 times a week and do it for fun. If the rear shock does go out in the one year warenty, I have heard that Gary Fisher has held up it end and replaiced the shock. This do not concern me that much since I plan to replaice the shock sometime in the future any ways.As for rebuilding the bushings, with the single piviot I don't see it as a big problem. Every bike that I reviewed recomends rebuilding the bushings at one point.I am extremely pleased with this bike and would recomend it to anyone. Keep in mind, the bike is best suited for riders that are not too big. Finding large frames is very difficult.
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Spuck
a Weekend Warrior
from Umatilla, Fl Date Reviewed: November 20, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Santos
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Great strength, Lockout is a plus, black does not show dirt (good because I don't wash it,) and climbs good.
Weaknesses:
Rear shock lost oil -seal??- after two months, bounces to much for me, clips suck - broke while riding- grips suck, and could be lighter
Similar Products Used:
1st Full boing boing
Bike Setup:
Cut seat post before leaving bike shop, got frog clipless after breaking clips, added computer
Bottom Line:
The bike is a good first full suspension bike for me. It takes a lot of pain that I don't want going my direction. The clips need to go clipless or different and the rear shock needs to be changed.
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Barly
a Weekend Warrior
from vallejo, ca Date Reviewed: November 15, 1999
Favorite Trail:
v town
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
well built..nice looking frame good ride
Weaknesses:
weight color too bouncy
Bike Setup:
stock
Bottom Line:
not a bad bike if you can get a good deal on it!
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Jasper
a Weekend Warrior
from The Netherlands Date Reviewed: October 17, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Belgium Ardennes
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Stiff frameworks, on the fly damper very good climb conditions, overall great performance
Weaknesses:
Bouncy feeling sometimes, rearshock works the best when not standing on the pedal, because of the unified triangle concept. Change the rear (rock) Shock!!!
Similar Products Used:
hardtailbikes, not to compare
Bike Setup:
Standard shocks, changed to bearfooth pedals and Magura brakes.
Bottom Line:
For the price (in Holland : $ 2250,-)a realy good fullsuspension starter, modify it yourself and you can handle every trail!
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Jon Reedy
a Downhiller
from Barrie, Ontario Date Reviewed: October 9, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Canada Cup Downhill across the street from my house hehe
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Genesis geometry puts the rider in a really good, aggreesive possition. Front suspension is very supple. Change on the fly rear dampening is awesome for climbs.
Weaknesses:
Front suspension is to soft but can be changed with thicker hydracoil oil comes with a five you might want a ten.
Similar Products Used:
Specialized FSP Elite. Frame is not nearly as good. Just not the same ride.
Bike Setup:
Added: Axiom DH bars, Bontrager ?? clipless pedals, and an Intense DH 2.35 front tire.
Bottom Line:
This bike is definately the best full suspension bike for all around reasons. Obviously there's going to better DH specific full suspension bikes but this one definately rules!
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Dave
a Cross-Country Rider
from Ogden, UT Date Reviewed: October 6, 1999
Favorite Trail:
slickrock
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
price, looks, front shock, remote rear shock damper.
Weaknesses:
weight, mushy front shock for my weight (205#), pedals, brake levers/calipers.
Similar Products Used:
Kona Lava Dome (hard-tail), Univega 750DS suspension bike.
Bike Setup:
added clipless pedals, 40 deg. riser stem, upgraded shifter pods to LX and added 9 speeds, Avid 2.0 brake levers, and LX calipers, will get stiffer front springs for Judy C
Bottom Line:
Climbs much better than my prior suspended bike, downhills also much more plush. Rear damper makes road approach to trails, and long smooth climbs much nicer. A little twitchy in front steering, but may be an advantage once I get used to it. Front shock too soft for me, hard to stand because of the bounce. Overall, I'm very happy with it.
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Submitted by
Whats His Face
a Weekend Warrior
from Ottawa Ontario Date Reviewed: September 27, 1999
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
the shocks are great the gear shifter is impresive and I love the weels
Weaknesses:
the peadls but there esay to change
Bottom Line:
A great and powerful bike for what you get a great price light and well balenced and esay to repair very fun to ride I suggest it to anyone
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Chris Rogers
a Downhiller
from Chattanooga, TN Date Reviewed: September 18, 1999
Favorite Trail:
There are several I love
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
This is my second fisher I've owned. The first one was a hardtail that is awesome. Ilove it. Then I bought the Fisher F4. If you want a good Full Suspension bike, go with one of the Jousha's.
Weaknesses:
There really arent any.
Similar Products Used:
Specialized FSR. Wasn't as near as smooth for me
Bike Setup:
I've added a Specialized Wireless computer, a new seat, a kore seatpost, a kore elite stem, a Chris King headsetand, a Spin wheel set and some fisher bar ends
Bottom Line:
At first I love how it rode. You may not want to spend all the money I've put into my bike, but if you do you will definately love how it is.
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Kat Leary
a Cross-Country Rider
from Haverford PA Date Reviewed: September 3, 1999
Favorite Trail:
anything rough and tough
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
The suspension is great I love the Judys
Weaknesses:
The pedals I hate the clipless
Similar Products Used:
Raleigh M 50
Bike Setup:
RST front shocks they werent that grear
Bottom Line:
I really like the Jushua its a great bike and rides well through anything
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Submitted by
HD
a Weekend Warrior
from Cincinnati, OH Date Reviewed: August 28, 1999
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
smooth ride
Weaknesses:
lock out problems. The cable slips at the lock out. It was set up with the lockout cable going through the same silver clip on the frame that the rear brake and derailers work on. Is that correct or should it go down the frame and make a big loop up to the rear lock out? Instead it makes a 5 inch diameter turn into the lockout from the clip. If anyones is set up different, email me and let me know. This was how the bike was set up when I bought it from the bike shop.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
I added a Go-Fast Bar and replaced the stem with a 30 degree upward angle. The rest is stock.
Bottom Line:
Great bike except for the cable problem of the lock out. I don't think the bike shop I bought it from knows how to fix the problem. The lock out cable slippage began after my first ride. It had been in their shop for 20 day's with them trying to fix it. And I had only owned the bike for 40!
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Submitted by
BEan_CReam
a Cross-Country Rider
from Tempe, AZ Date Reviewed: August 23, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Javalina, Trail1
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
Smooth controllable bomber! Love the lock-out! Never thought I needed it before, but it makes a difference on long climbs.
Weaknesses:
Leaky rear shock!!! Sound familiar? I'm covered in bruises, though, didn't count on those! Probably will disappear with a little more experience.
Similar Products Used:
Gt-rt3 K-mart Special (just kidding) This is my first *real* bike.
Bike Setup:
Big fat gel seat for my soft little rear!
Bottom Line:
Managed to get this one for $650 used from some scottsdale bimbo that wanted a newer (?) bike... glad she was a dumb Didn't have much ride time, never saw dirt, looked like a caddy esplanade! Once I got all the dumb stickers and reflectors off, I could take it out! hahahah what a score.
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Osvaldo Olmos
a Cross-Country Rider
from San Diego CA Date Reviewed: August 18, 1999
Favorite Trail:
West Cuesta Ridge Ride (San Luis Obispo)
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Overall I think this is a great bike. I have owned it and rode it for the full six months. I have raced in about 5 races and it has performed extremelly well. It is a great climber and an awesome downhiller, you can really push yourself. Very reliable on the technical side, it goes where you want it to go.
Weaknesses:
I haven't really noticed any weaknesses so far. I love this bike. Although I had not read any of these reviews, I have noticed the rear shock to start to leak. I imagine that rock shock has some kind of guarantee on this.
Similar Products Used:
This is my first full suspension bike. I have a schwinn hard tail (about 100 pounds!)
Bike Setup:
When I bought my bike I did some upgrades on it. I changed the brakes to shimano XT V-brakes and shifters (AWESOME), made it to a 9 speed instead of 8. Changed the pedals to shimano clipless pedals. Last, I put doda XYZ bar ends. The price $1300.
Bottom Line:
Bottom Line this bike is great. If you are a first time rider or you are a serious rider. I highly recommend it. I cannot say how the bike performs when it comes stock, but with the upgrades I made it's great.
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Philip Wiles
a Weekend Warrior
from Hays, NC Date Reviewed: August 13, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Hobby Park
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Great bombproof frame. The funnest bike I have ever ridden. Suspension is ok.
Weaknesses:
Cranks, and other lower group components...but hey for the price you cant get much better. Pedals suck.
Similar Products Used:
Raliegh M7000, Diamondback X2
Bike Setup:
Joshua F400, switched out the seat for something a bit softer, and the pedals to icons, then nashbars.Schwinn Mesa LE thrash bike.
Bottom Line:
This bike is great. I love it. Almost everything is perfect. The suspension can really take some scary stuff, and it handles like a dream. Balance of the bike is also noticable well. Track-stands are much easier now. The only thing are some of the parts but you can upgrade those later, since these are still very ridable. It is the same frame as the F1 and you can stock it to the moon with parts, and have a racer. It is just fun. One note though. Icon pedals suck, i got nashbars when i ordered new shoes and they work ten times better and were 12 BUCKS!!!. Great bike..get one and start riding.
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Submitted by
HrdcoreMBr
a Downhiller
from In the valley, Cali. Date Reviewed: August 6, 1999
Favorite Trail:
your face
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
I haven't bottomed out on jumps at all.
Bottom Line:
......hmmmmmmm, maybe...if...you...didn't RENT a bike, you wouldn't have problems! Try getting a real JF4.
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Submitted by
Brian
a Weekend Warrior
from Massachusetts Date Reviewed: August 2, 1999
Duration Product Used:
tested or demo'ed only
Bottom Line:
The suspension is nice, and gives a soft ride. however, the bike can't maintain a straight line for bean, leaving handling to be something to be desired. i rented one to go down atitash and got nothing but trouble. the chain fell off after every bump. i would have preferred having my $440 GT hardtail over this piece of crap any day.
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Submitted by
squish
a Weekend Warrior
from redfield south dakota Date Reviewed: July 30, 1999
Favorite Trail:
anything
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
great value for 900 clams...rock shox judy works awesome...travel is smooth and consistent on the rear..that is if the shock isn't blown out...
Weaknesses:
rear shock...about four weeks after i got the bike...the rear shock started to leak all over the place...irritating...pedals suck big time...
Similar Products Used:
schwinn sweet spot...GT I-drive...
Bike Setup:
this bike i just built custom so i won't go into it...
Bottom Line:
this bike is an excellent buy for the money...the only trouble is that the rear shock needs a little imporvement...or swapped out at time of purchase...i would highly reccomend purchasing one...
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Mike
a Cross-Country Rider
from Idaho Date Reviewed: July 25, 1999
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Great Bike lockout
Weaknesses:
Cheap brake levers Rear shock
Similar Products Used:
FSR
Bike Setup:
Stock
Bottom Line:
I love my joshua. Handles great, fun ride. Replaced the brake levers and pedals though. The lockout is great for climbs. Only problem I have had is with the rear shock, after about a month of use it started to leak oil. I suspect that it has just blown an internal seal due to pressure from the lockout. I would recommend this bike to anyone who wants to get an affordable full suspension bike.
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GARY REVELLE
a Weekend Warrior
from Vacaville , CA Date Reviewed: July 7, 1999
Favorite Trail:
any where in reno
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
good price , fun to ride , love this bike !!!
Weaknesses:
Change the pedals , they suck
Bottom Line:
For a good bike at a good price this is the bike i would buy again, I got mine for $780.00
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Dave C
a Cross-Country Rider
from MA Date Reviewed: June 11, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Freetown State Forest
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Nice Price Tag For a full suspension Bike Decent weight Not light nor is it extremely heavy
Weaknesses:
Pedals suck I upgraded to clipless pedals
Similar Products Used:
Jamis Diablo Trek Y33
Bike Setup:
stock components
Bottom Line:
Great Bike at an exceptional value. The Genesis geometry is wright on. The judy forks are heavy but plush The bike really handles well, As for climbs lock out the rear shock and your golden..Downhills are a dream on this bike cuase it seems like i fly down some really technical downhills with ease
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JLAH
a Weekend Warrior
from MALAYSIA Date Reviewed: May 21, 1999
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Bottom Line:
Well... This bike cool... light for a dual suspension y-frame though... worth it and don't miss the oppurtunity to get this stuff...
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Jim L.
a Weekend Warrior
from Binghamton,NY Date Reviewed: May 3, 1999
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
Good components and shocks.
Weaknesses:
I haven't found any yet.
Similar Products Used:
I also own a Gary Fisher Aquila(hardtail)
Bike Setup:
RS Judy C and RS Deluxe Coilover rear
Bottom Line:
I'm use to riding a hardtail, so this is like ride a Caddy. It's a GREAT bike !!
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Matt drew
a Weekend Warrior
from Salmon Arm Date Reviewed: April 27, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Prodentials
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
This bike is awesome it has great componets and the judy on the front and rock shox deluxe on the back. It is sweet for hitin jumps and big air.
Weaknesses:
I don't know of any yet, haven't had the bike long enough.
Similar Products Used:
Rocky Mountain Element Rocky Mountain Spice Gary Fisher Level Betty Se(sweet bike)
Bike Setup:
bomer, rock shox, manitou and rst
Bottom Line:
This bike has very good handeling and overall is efficient.
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Submitted by
Dick
a weekend warrior
from Atlanta Date Reviewed: March 8, 1999
Bottom Line:
My Bike shop carries the F4 and have a demo for employess and customers to borrow for the weekend. My impressions of this bike is that it is all fun. Nothing is serious about this bike and i would never race it, but if your buying a bike to have fun on the F4 will do. On climbs it bobs a lot but traction is never a problem because of the genisis stuff. Going downhill the suspension is very generous and allows you to make a lot of mistakes that most other bikes would never allow. As far as the lockout lever is concerned I never really used it, the bobbing wasn't annoying enought to bother with it. Our demo has had the lockout break, but its pretty easy to fix. Bikes of West Cobb will let you ride one and you'll see that the lockout isn't really necessary anyway. Four chillis for a really fun bike at the right price, not five because I wouldn't race it and the cheap lockout.
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Submitted by
Roach
a weekend warrior
from Raleigh, NC Date Reviewed: February 11, 1999
Bottom Line:
I bought a 99 F4 complete bike. frame LG. Had it for about a month but have road it hard. Great bike so far. The RS Judy C has done a great job. The back spring on the LG frame is strong of my 175 lbs. ( But great for 225 lbs Dean below) Positives 1. lock-out back shock. 2. Good Black color. ( not some wuss blue TREK are you listening) I would have liked the orange F3, but could not afford. 3. very strong Frame 4. Velocrapter (SP?) tires 5. Disk brake readyONly complaints. 1. Very cheap seat (replace) 2. For $1000 bucks you should get more than LX parts.(But all $1000 full-susp have LX)I would give it 5 stars but have not had it long enough and this is my first Full-susp. 4 stars for now/will update this summer.FYI, Bikes USA on the East coast has a deal at $129 bucks when you buy a bike you get a 5 YEAR UNLIMITED warranty that includes two tune-ups a year and one major overhaul a year (bearings etc.) For mountain bike guys that punish bikes, you need to look into it. I am not a bike shop guy, I just like stuff replaced for FREE.
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Submitted by
Ben
a weekend warrior
from Australia Date Reviewed: January 22, 1999
Bottom Line:
I bought GF Joshua X0 in 97,broke the frame,Z0 replace,broke,had to wait for 9 months but got 99 Joshua F4 frame.Nice frame.I have Jnr.T Bombers,636 pedals, Magura brakes,2 chainrings(44 & 30)& downhill chain device,& custom shock mounts with 7 inches rear wheel travel...easy.Cross country bike?Don't think so.
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Submitted by
DC
a
from Marlboro MA Date Reviewed: January 22, 1999
Bottom Line:
hey cross country--what type of failure did you encounter with the rear shock? Is the small piston that dampens the shock not going up and down (sticking) or is the shock failing? I have had my J4 for two months and so far so good. Except the center ring bent (on a climb I guess), but I was able to flaten it out. The nice thing is that most of the components you may want to replace in the first year or so don't carry a big price tag.--DC
Don't do it. Fisher makes great bikes, but the rear shock lockout breaks frequently and Rock Shox takes 2-4 weeks to fix it. I am without my bike, again, for four weeks. Get a hard-tail.PS - Bikes USA in Atlanta sucks. They are not doing anything to help this situation.
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Submitted by
Dean Moss
a cross-country rider
from Raleigh,NC Date Reviewed: January 11, 1999
Bottom Line:
New Owner. I've had the bike for three weeks now and am generally impressed with the machine. It is a great improvement over a cheap aluminum hardtail that I have been riding for a year. I have read so much about full-suspensions not climbing as well as hardtails but let me tell you this thing climbs like a mule! Even better than my hardtail. The stock springs on the Large frame are upgraded for larger riders (which I did not know) and work well for a 230lbs rider. Don't waste your money on the aftermarket springs. Also, my bike came with the WTB Velociraptors (front and bike) which was a nice surprise over the expected EnduroraptorsGood: + Great climber + The suspension dampner is a neat gadget although I only find myself adjusting it when I feel too bouncy on a set of open cordoroys. Can't remember to fiddle with it on a climb. + Upgraded springs on the Large frame bikes + WTB VelociraptorsBAD: - The paint job arrived in fairly poor condition (i.e. poor packaging conditions?)It didn't bother me too much since I knew I would add a few more dings and scratches.
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Submitted by
cheesy poofs
a cross-country rider
from hawaii Date Reviewed: January 6, 1999
Bottom Line:
I love this bike. It looks really cool and performs great. It climbs like a billy goat and dares you to go fast on the downhills. You have to love everything about this bike especially the price. 5 steamy hot weinies.
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Submitted by
Dman from the cape
a cross-country rider
from brewster mass usa Date Reviewed: November 14, 1998
Bottom Line:
I beat this bike up for over 5 hours and threw everything at it that the Cape Cod had to offer. Big complaint, the brakes are on or off, but they seemed to soften up a little as the day went on. It rides like a hardtail when you lock-out (firm up, you don't lock out) the back end. I also feel the 6.5 total travel between the front and rear suspension is the key to this bike. So many comparable models run around 7.00 to 7.50. It rides like a bike and not a marsh mellow. The low-grade components are adequate and like several 99 models, it is set-up to handle a disc brake conversion. I also liked the toe clip pedals. They're a switch from clip-ons. For the money, I give it four burning red hot chili peppers.
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Submitted by
bigjay
a cross-country rider
from NC Date Reviewed: November 10, 1998
Bottom Line:
There is no 'lock-out' lever! The lever controls the damping of the rear shock - which is never totally locked out. You will see much more of this if full suspension is to have a place in cross country racing - there are no suspension designs on the market that can totally resist hard pedaling forces. Even the worlds best downhill racers are using remote adjusters! Look around. Don't bash a product that you have no experience with. This should be a constructive forum - for reasonable and truthful evaluations of equipment. Don't ruin it.
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Submitted by
Steve
a weekend warrior
from NJ Date Reviewed: November 1, 1998
Bottom Line:
Okay, this is my first full suspension bike after riding a hardtail for the last 2 years. My first impressions were that it was too heavy (it's at least 3 pounds heavier than my aluminum hardtail), but after riding it this weekend I didn't even notice the extra weight. It climbs like my hardtail if you use the lever on the handlebar to lock out the rear suspension. Maybe the bike fits me just right, maybe it's the Genesis geometry, but all I know is that the bike goes exactly where I point it and that makes it great on singletrack. The bulk of the weight comes from the heavy 4.4 pound Judy C, but I love the new Hydracoil design so I'll take the added weight. Parts are Shimano LX rear derailleur, Alivio cranks and front derailleur, STX-RC shifters, Tektro brakes and levers, Bontrager Corvair rimss and hubs, WTB saddle, WTB grips, WTB Velociraptor tires, Bontrager straight handlebar, regular pedals with straps (switched to 535's), no name stem and seatpost. Things that I'll change eventually are the handlebar to a rise bar because I like the way they feel better. The Alivio stuff will have to go eventually. The Tektro brakes just don't feel as good as the LX V's on my hardtail, it seems like they don't have any modulation and they just lock the tires up so that you skid all over the place. The Tekro levers feel cheap, there's alot of slop in them. And oh yeah, it's 8 speed not 9, but 8 is all I need. I'm having a hard time setting up the rear shock just right, but I think my fat 190 pound ass is too heavy for the stock spring, so I may have to get a firmer spring. I don't know what else to say right now, so I'll give this bike 4 stars because it's a good buy for the money, and the stuff that I want to replace is relatively cheap and easy.
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