Submitted by
Justin Nordmeyer
a Cross Country Rider
from Phoenx AZ Date Reviewed: December 24, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Good ole trail 100
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
Air park
Strengths:
Ive spent so much time on a mono-link suspension that that the four bar seems like a wonderful dream that I have yet to wake from. With the frame design coupled with a stable platform shock, its hard to tell that Im not on a hard-tail... untill I hit a rock garden, that is.
Weaknesses:
The frame is so light that I dont know if I can trust it yet.
Similar Products Used:
Haro, Mongoose
Bike Setup:
Avid bb7 mech. disc, Mavic crossland wheels(weigh a lot but tough) XT cranks and XTR everything else. Manitou Minute 1:00 holds up the front and a fox rp23 holds up the rest.
Bottom Line:
This frame does somthing special for me. I used to surround my old frames with top end stuff to squeese every bit of performance out of them. This frame does the opposite of that. From what Ive read, I got a FANTASTIC deal on this frame. Im gonna ride it like the two grand machine it is though. Im pleased.
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Submitted by
Vaughn
a Cross Country Rider
from Oroville, CA, USA Date Reviewed: October 26, 2002
Favorite Trail:
South Fork of the Walla Walla River
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Purchased At:
The Broken Spoke
Strengths:
Light Weight Appearance Durability
Bike Setup:
Medium Truth 2000, Z1 with the old arch, xt/xtr, thompson raceface, with new Romic rear shock, dialed for my 185 lb weight, replacing the Float R.
Bottom Line:
This is my third post on this bike. I'm very pleased with my third summer on this bike. No durability issues so far. The pivots have been quite maintenance free, the usual bane of all full shush bikes. Silence is wonderful.
The Romic is a great upgrade. It is so much more responsive than the Float R. I'm not very sophisticated about dampening, just adjusted the dials middle of the road and left it. No objective data here, but I think I can carry more speed with more control.
I do kind of bristle at the recent proclamations from Ellsworth regarding what is and what is not covered by warranty. I happened to purchase the Romic just a couple months before Ellsworth came out with the statement that warranty will not be covered if the Truth rider weighs over 180lbs and uses an air shock. Seems like a pretty subjective declaration. The air shock has worked fine for every other bike company. Why not make your bike stand up to the industry standard set by Fox? A few extra ounces of frame support to keep this a 'safe light' bike would be no big deal.
This issue of incompatibility with industry standards carries over into the problem with the derailleur hanger. A Kmart bike can even get this part right. I am sick of hearing my derailleur pulley rub up against my 34 tooth climbing gear. Maybe flipping the B-tension screw backwards works, but that is so stop gap. The screw head sits so precariously on the edge of that hanger nubbin' that it does not take much to chip that nubbin right off. The derailleur then rotates forward as the screw pushes forward, putting that upper pulley right up against the 34 tooth again. I have replaced one hanger for this reason. I understand the company line is that Shimano is to blame for making a derailleur that won't work with the Ellsworth frame. What is that?
The recent Mountain Bike Action review of an Ellsworth ID ended with a query why this 'freeride' bike only came with a 32 tooth granny rather than 34. Good question. The ID would be an ideal bike for a 34 tooth. It will take a bit more power to push this big beauty up a grade than a Truth.
The obvious reason is because the current hanger and Shimano derailleur would not work with the 34 tooth. This does not strike me as an engineering conundrum. Why does Speedgoat have to take it upon themselves to machine a hanger that is 4mm longer? Why can't Ellsworth do this? I don't think you really need a longer hanger, all you need is a hanger with the b-tension stop located a few millimeters rearward.
The last thing is just a personal thing. I like the E-plate top swing front derailleurs. In general, I like the top swing a lot better than the old bottom swing derailleurs. This bike requires the bottom swing because of the rear shock lower frame mounts. The E-type bottom swing gives snappy shifting, a low profile, and eliminates the possibility of losing your chain into your bottom bracket. I would like to see Ellsworth put an E-plate bolt tab down there along the bottom bracket.
This may be a nonpoint considering the new XTR that is coming out. That XTR bottom bracket with the externally mounted bearings does not look too compatible with an E-bracket, and I'm guessing most people in the market for a Truth would plan on dressing it up in XTR.
A minor picky thing is the rear disc brake setup. To echo Mountain Bike action...why not set up that disc side seatstay with a cable housing stop? It has got to be a little cleaner looking than my little ziptie cobbleworks. I know there are cute little aftermarket cable mounts that I can strap, zip, glue on my frame, but why? For this kind of money, I'd like to see the manufacturer take care of all these things. Probably 1 in 2 people purchasing this frame are going to put hydraulic or mechanical discs on this bike.
I have seen almost all the generations of the Truth. Each production run, even within 4 to 6 months has a little something bored out, lightened up, or reinforced. Ellsworth is constantly improving an already excellent design. Disc cable stop and derailleur hanger are easy additions to this design.
Overall, I'm quite happy with the bike. It is an all day rider. Over 2 1/2 years it has held up very well.
I almost sold this bike to a friend a few months ago, but after I thought about it I decided I would just buy another Truth if I sold it. My friend will still get a Truth sometime. I'm happy I kept mine.
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Submitted by
dogbert
a Cross Country Rider
from Lebanon, NJ Date Reviewed: September 15, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Chimney Rock Park
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
light weight quick, snappy handling great traction on climbs Ellsworth's customer service long top tubes for a given size
Weaknesses:
not stable at speed, descents, or through rough stuff short head tube
Similar Products Used:
own(ed): Turner XCE, '99 Truth, '98 C'dale Raven 2000 demo'd: too many boutique-builder & mass-produced fs bikes to list with hi/low single pivot or horst/non-horst linkages.
I spent a year on the older Truth ('99) and almost 2 yrs on the newer Truth (2000½ SE). I will focus my review on the newer Truth for the most part.
The rear suspension on the Truth is great. It really sticks to the terrain, especially when climbing, and bobs very little. The Float R rear shock had reliability problems, and it would blow through its mid-travel. The Romic was a super upgrade, regardless of the weight penalty. Although I added the plushness of coil, each pedal stroke would spit me forward instead of causing the bike to wallow in its travel.
The Truth has nice quick handling, which is good if you're riding slow, tight, twisty, technical terrain. Once speed picked up, or the trail pointed down, the Truth would find itself out of its element. It also didn't instill confidence while riding through rock gardens since it tended to get bounced around. I eventually resorted to running a 130mm travel Z1 MCR to calm it down, although this made certain climbs more of a chore (as well as voided the warranty if I kept it that way).
With a short head tube, I had to run several spacers to give me a more comfortable "trail riding" position as opposed to a low, race-like setup.
When I noticed a cracked chainstay on my Truth, Ellsworth warranted it no problem, and fast. Kudos to Ellsworth's customer service!
In order to have a light frame, the tubing is thin. I dented the top tube on my first Truth when one of the brake levers swung around on a crash and clipped the tt. I had a dent on my new Truth on the down tube, which must have been caused by a rock kicking up.
The Truth is a fine bike, but now that I've been on a Turner XCE (which has all of the positives of the Truth, albeit in a little heavier package, but none of the drawbacks), I can say that the Truth wasn't appropriate for my riding style/terrain.
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Submitted by
Scott
a Cross Country Rider
from Arlington, MA Date Reviewed: September 4, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Kingdom Trails, VT
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$2500.00
Purchased At:
From LBS mechanic
Strengths:
Smooth ride, no bounce on climbs, will go over most of the roots and rocks we have in Massachusetts, beautiful bike. Creates envy in the hearts of other riders.
Weaknesses:
I snapped the top tube immediately behind the weld to the head tube, but it was a 2 year old bike
Similar Products Used:
Turner, Santa Cruz Superlight
Bike Setup:
XTR, Hayes hydraulics, Rolf Dolomite wheels, Thomson stem and seatpost, Race Face air alloy lite riser bar and headset
Bottom Line:
This bike is great, and even though it is expensive compared to many other FS bikes, it is worth it if you can afford it. There are a ton of reviews expressing similar thoughts, but I want to defend Ellsworth customer service because I know some reviewers have complained.
I was the second owner and had the bike for 5 months when the top tube snapped while riding a moderate singletrack at Pedrosfest. I called Ellsworth and sent it to them. Andrew in customer service helped me the whole time, and he was great. I had a new frame with the old rear triangle in a week. In my choice of colors. All I can do is praise their customer service, and I have no idea what others are talking about. It may have helped that I was nice but persistent with them. Who knows?
One last point: I think that some people buying Truths believe that it can be a freeride bike as well, and at least in New England, that may be a bad idea. Get an Id or Joker if you want to huck big stuff. But for XC riding here, it's an awesome bike.
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Submitted by
Pissed
a Cross Country Rider
from Huntsville AL Date Reviewed: July 13, 2002
Favorite Trail:
K2 Montsono State Park
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1900.00
Purchased At:
hbs
Strengths:
Looks great, rides like a hard tail under power, solid as hell on roots, rocks, and anything else you can think off.
Weaknesses:
Fram broke above front D. This is not a down hill bike. I never did any big drops. 1footers at the most. Hard to get set up on shifting perfect for more than 4 rides. New stuff. Also broken lower rear end.
Similar Products Used:
856 proflex,animal proflex, (rode both for 4 years no breaky), back-up bike a rocket 88
Bike Setup:
all xt, still 30 pounds
Bottom Line:
All I can say, Is the best bike I have ever ridden. But all that doses not count if I have to send it off evey year for replacement. I ride 3 to 4 times a week 6 to 10 miles a ride. Teck single track (no big jumps). I spent big money so I would not have this problem. Never broken frame before this one. Have been riding for 7 years. I weigh 210. All I can say to ellsworth build an extra few pounds into the fram to make it last. 2 weeks out on new frame, not bad. Not much value if you have to send it back,2 chilis. Proformance Untouchable,5 chilis
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Submitted by
atpjunkie
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego Date Reviewed: June 7, 2002
Favorite Trail:
My Dirty Little Secret
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$1700.00
Purchased At:
North of the Border
Strengths:
Handles like a dream, great technical climber and descender. Looks great in Green. Good customer service and warranty. See Below.
Weaknesses:
seattubes tend to break, dents easily.
Similar Products Used:
Intense Tracer, Uzzi, Specialized FSR
Bike Setup:
XTR Derailleurs, XT Pods 8 Speed still rules. Avid Arch Supreme w/ Speed Dial Mag levers. Syncros Revolution Crankset, Time Pedals, Stratos Helix Expert, Marzocchi Z-2 Bam, White Industry Hubs, Sun Rhyno Lite Wheels and Thompson Post.
Bottom Line:
As you can tell first I'm not a weight weenie. I'm about 230 lbs (6'4"+) I'm big not FAT, so I built my Truth to be a Trail Bike. I'm not a wanna be North Shore drop king, just a guy who puts 150-200 miles (Road, MTB and Cyclocross) in a week. I'd consider myself a Trail Rider not a racer or freerider. So here's the skinny, first I love this Bike but I've broken 2 in less than 2 years. The second one in about 500 miles. The 2001 seat tube has a design flaw that distributes too much stress to the area just below the Gusset and just above the front derailleur. So somewhere in the middle of a ride "POP" goes the seat tube. I have now logged a total of 15 miles of hiking out of the boondocks with a broken bicycle and the second one broke on a climb, tipping me over and down into a ravine. Yes I have broken 2 in the same place. I'm now on my 3rd a 2002 which supposedly addresses the problem. I'll post a review if it happens again. Like I said I LOVE this bike it handles like no other, I just wanna be able to finish rides pedaling. Ellsworth has been great replacing them and I've had none of the customer service issues most complain about.
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Submitted by
Carbon
a Weekend Warrior
from St. Louis Date Reviewed: February 25, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Chubb
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
Classifieds
Strengths:
Very Light, strong, plush, great looking frame.
Similar Products Used:
First Full-suspension bike. Test rode several others.
Bottom Line:
I use to ride a Voodoo Hardtail and loved it, but I was getting tired of always having a sore ass. It was time for a new bike and had only heard of this frame. I read the reviews and found a used frame to buy.
It has lived up to everything everyone said about this frame. I constantly feel like it has a motor on the back when I'm climbing. My confidence level has sky rocketed. Perfect fit for me. It handles anything and everything nicely. Back wheel digs in with no slips on climbs. No wheelies, graceful down hill, - my love for the sport has really grown since I got this frame. I'm always wanting to ride now, whereas before it was only one of the other sports I enjoyed.
Everyone complains about the stickers falling off. I wish mine would b/c then it would keep other riders from oggling my frame and make me stop worrying so much that someone is going to steal it. I don't care what the label says or how my frame looks, just that it's a blast to ride.
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Submitted by
ROD
a
from CASTRO VALLEY Date Reviewed: January 31, 2002
Favorite Trail:
ANYTHING FAST
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Purchased At:
MOVIN'ONCYCLERY-----WHATS UP GREG
Strengths:
KILLER DESIGN, LOVE THE OLD ENGLISH WRITING, VERY PLUSH, LIGHT.
Weaknesses:
PRICE--HAD 2 TAKE A PARTIAL WITHDRAWL FROM MY INSURANCE POLICY 2 BUY THIS SUCKER!! DONT LIKE THERE CREST ON THE FRONT
Similar Products Used:
HAD A FISHER HARD TAIL, THIS WAS ANYTHING BUT SIMILAR
Bike Setup:
2002 TRUTH, 80X-FLY, AD-12, PAUL BRAKES, XTR,RACEFACE NEXT,KRIS KING HEAD SET AND HUBS,THOMSON STEM,EASTON CARBON BARS AND POST,WTB 250 STEALTH,MAVIC 517
Bottom Line:
TURNED MY GOLF BALLS INTO BASEBALLS AFTER 1 RIDE. IT MAKES THE TRAILS SEEM LIKE BUTTER. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING AHEAD THAT LOOKS SKETCHY JUST GO FOR IT, THIS BIKE WILL SOAK IT UP! i HAVE HAD THIS BIKE 4 A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, SO FAR IT SEEMS BULLETPROOF. ONLY TIME WILL TELL. SAVE YOUR PENNIES BROTHER AND GO BUY AN ELLSWORTH!
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Submitted by
hoser
a Cross Country Rider
from chula vista,ca Date Reviewed: January 14, 2002
Favorite Trail:
the Bandito trail
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Purchased At:
mission cyclery
Strengths:
light weight, good suspension travel, quick nimble handling, no real bobbing to speak of. excellent downhiller, killer climber, excels in difficult situations whether it's slick rock in Sedona or shale an' steps in Pasadena, the Truth does it all well. i did a 24 hour race in Idyllwild last year, i used my Trek STP an my Truth. i rode thru Ellsworth 20 hours straight, aboot 115 miles. it flew flawlessly down the wore out trail hour after hour saving me from certain pain an' agony that was awaiting in every corner, ditch an downhill of an endurance race. sad to say, after hour 21 the front Dolomite snapped a spoke sidelining it. if that spoke hadn't broke i woulda rode it the whole race. i've drug/carried it to immeasurable trails in search of fun, downhilled into mysterious places in Mexico with never thinking about the reliability of the bike.
Weaknesses:
i have Truth SE #33, they don't make SE's any more. the sticker's came off in aboot 6 months, but that gave me an excuse to do some customizing with some local shop stickers. hum, that's the only weakness i can come up with.
Similar Products Used:
Trek VRX 500, Sugar 1, too many Trek Y's to count
Bike Setup:
Manitou black 100-120 air, carbon monkey bars, Chris King headset, XT/XTR derailleur, XTR brakes an' shifters, hollow tech crank arms and rings, 34-22 cassette, coda hubs/bontragger hoops, Terri Ti seat, Easton seat post, Fox Vanilla Rc, 858's, panaracers firepro r-1.8/f-2.1, an slime light. flats suck.
Bottom Line:
the bottom line for me is a bike that i can take anywhere to have fun on. isn't that what were doing this for? Fun. Yeah, sometimes we race, but the whole thing is aboot fun. whether your flying down fire roads of picking your way through a rock strewn single track, this is the bike of choice for me. it's had a few teething problem but what bike hasn't. a few of the people have some harsh words for Tony an his crew, but i don't. they're good people an' they've been square with me when ever i speak with 'em, on the phone or at an event.
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Submitted by
kenny prather
a Weekend Warrior
from boynton bch,fla Date Reviewed: January 5, 2002
Favorite Trail:
J.D.
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Purchased At:
wheels of wellington
Strengths:
reliability, comfort,looks,the fact that not every other rider on the trail is on one.
Weaknesses:
none so far.
Similar Products Used:
4 banger,tried several other before the purchase
Bike Setup:
xtr and race face goodies,Sid sl.....
Bottom Line:
I thought I would do a one year update to let everyone know how it is holdin' up. The Ellsworth is well worth the high price tag. I went to Costa Rica for the La Ruta da los Conquistadores race. 300 miles across the country in three days 104 degrees day one, 45 degrees day two, 24,00 feet of vertical climbing, blah blah blah, it was feally stinkin' hard.I did not have to do one bit of maintinence (other than new brake pads) to my bike. The Truth was excellent. It is light (for all the climbing), 4 inches of travel on the downhills was soooooooooo nice, and the 12 miles of railroad tracks on day three was worth the $3,500 alone, I can't begin to tell you how pleased I am with this bike. I did meet two other riders on Truths, and they felt the same way I did....HAPPY!!!! I would recomend this frame highly,the riders who are unhappy with their Truths dont know what thier talkin'about.You can't be huckin' it off 8 foot drops and expect it to stay together,its for cross country riding and it doesnt get any better than this!!!!!!! RIDE ON
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Submitted by
Jeff
a
from Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: December 4, 2001
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1600.00
Strengths:
great craftsmanship, good climber w/little bob, great descender, lifetime warranty
Weaknesses:
none so far
Similar Products Used:
Fisher Sugar 1, X-Caliber
Bike Setup:
Psylo Race, Hope mini's, full XT/XTR, Easton, Thomson
Bottom Line:
You can't beat the Truth for lightweight and still 4" travel....doesn't climb as nice as the Sugar 1, but it's definately faster on the descents and alot more fun to ride.....it's an incredibly smooth bike to ride. If you are looking for the ultimate XC bike and can afford it, look no further.
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Submitted by
Anthony S.
a Cross Country Rider
from San Jose, CA Date Reviewed: November 26, 2001
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1475.00
Purchased At:
pro-form
Strengths:
smooth feel, great craftmanship.
Weaknesses:
no hydro hose mounts, poorly fitting rear disc adapter, routing of rear der cable.
Similar Products Used:
gt i-drive
Bike Setup:
romic rear shock, bomber atom 80, king, etc.
Bottom Line:
bad a** ride, but for the price I want the whole package. I would have liked to see hydro hose mounts. Also I had to grind down the rear disc brake adapter at the seat stay to fit.
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Submitted by
JP
a Racer
from Burlington, VT Date Reviewed: November 19, 2001
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Suspension design, weight, finish, quality
Weaknesses:
Under the top tube cable routing, price
Similar Products Used:
Dean Scout, Cannondale hardtail, Cannondale Jeckyl
Bike Setup:
XTR, Thompson, Synchros, Easton, Sid 100
Bottom Line:
This is a great bike. As a recent convert from hardtails, I was apprehensive about peddle feedback. The bobbing on this frame is neglible, and I only notice it if I'm looking down at the shock. When I do want to spin and accelerate on climbs, this bike responds quickly. On flats and downhills, this bike is much faster than hardtails because you never have to stop peddling. Having this efficiency with 4 inches of travel is awesome. If you can afford it, I would highly recommend this frame.
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Submitted by
Fred
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego Date Reviewed: November 3, 2001
2002 Elsworth Truth, Shimano XTR, Marzocchi X-Fly 100, Fox Float-R, Mavic 519 rims, Mythos Slicks, Race Face bars, CaneCreek bar ends, Time ATAC Carbon, etc...
Bottom Line:
I'm still dazed that I spent $4000 on this bike, yikes; what was I thinking? The good news is that this sucker is really well built (incredible design, laser etched decals, etc...) easily the BMW of XC bikes. I've ridden several full-sus bikes but have only owned hardtails. Aside from bombing down hills like you might expect, this bike really climbs well. It's not light and stiff like a hardtail, but the suspension really keeps the rear tire hooked up and for some reason the bike actually makes it easier to balance and "pop" over lumps that kill your momentum on a serious uphill. By far the best bike I've ever ridden, if the store offered my money back I wouldn't take it; highly recommended. Life is too short to suck, get a Truth!
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Submitted by
Jimbo Rides
a Cross Country Rider
from Glastonbury, CT USA Date Reviewed: October 31, 2001
Favorite Trail:
the one I have yet to ride....
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$1400.00
Purchased At:
IBD
Strengths:
Light, supple, predictable. Does what Tony says it does!
Weaknesses:
Big $$$$. Graphics, bushing durability.
Similar Products Used:
Cannondales
Bike Setup:
Cane Creek AD 10 shock, Marzocchi Z2 80mm, Cane Creek WAM Ti wheels, Race Face, XTR and SRAM
Bottom Line:
NOTE: I weigh 165 and ride the shock at 225lbs - against all recommendations made in magazines etc. Makes for a firmer ride, but makes an awesome XC set up.
I highly recommend the Truth, especially now that they have put in sealed bearings.
Best ride in the World - that's the Truth.
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Submitted by
Albert Lew
a Cross Country Rider
from Medford MA Date Reviewed: October 28, 2001
Favorite Trail:
harold parker sf
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1800.00
Purchased At:
North Shore Cycles
Strengths:
straight as an arrow, confidence inspiring, plush, reliable
Weaknesses:
dents easily
Bike Setup:
ride rocks and roots at 25 lbs: Z1 XFly, Conti Survival Protection 2.3", Avid discs, XTR cranks, SRAM, King headset & hubs, Ritchey WCS stem, Monkeylite hi-rise carbon, Fox Float R, Speedplay frogs, flak jackets
Bottom Line:
This is a followup to my last review.
The Truth is a very confidence inspiring ride. The rear suspension has the three Ps: o Plush o Progressive o Predictable
and it is missing another P: o Pogo
I was inspired to write this review after doing a 3+ hour ride through Harold Parker State Forest today with dozens of other riders. Simply put, it doesn't look like anyone riding any similar bike out there has nearly the confidence you get with the Truth. Stair step rocks, roots, steep rock garden descents, drops: this is a great bike that allows to point and shoot. Heck, when there are leaves on the ground like there were today, you *can't see* what you're riding over. And riding the Truth over that terrain just feels totally natural and comfortable.
From another perspective this is a bike that puts the smile back into riding. For the hardtail convert, it will bring a whole new dimension of what is possible. For those with lesser full suspension bikes, be prepared for a quieter, stiffer, more predictable, lighter and less nervous ride.
I forgot to mention that throughout the New England spring and summer (both muddy), no maintenance was required. I can't tell you how many squeaky iDrives and others I encountered on the trails during that time.
The downside? Watch out for hard object impacts! I received dents on the top tube from someone working in my basement (they moved the bike and leaned it hard against a metal pole) and from bashing the downtube on a rock at low speed. Caveat to that is that I've heard lots of rocks banging off the bike at high speed and seen no damage to the rear "triangle" or downtube.
You get what you pay for - this is 2 grand well spent.
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Submitted by
John
a Racer
from Chicago Date Reviewed: October 27, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Anything with dirt, roots,rocks..steep and deep!
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$4370.00
Purchased At:
Beyondbikes.com
Strengths:
You gotta be kidding. My bike rocks at 24lbs for a full suspension. I'll probably lighten it even more with a few upgrades.
Weaknesses:
Building a Truth cost me my part of my down payment for my BMW M3...than again, I shouldn't have blown 13G during my last trip to Vegas. Oh, well. (Note, when you're up 7000 in 20min., by a copy of MBA and drool over your next bike). Hope it doeasn't dent as easily as some others claim.
Similar Products Used:
Nothing even close... was gonna go with a Tracer, but everyone that I've met that owned a Tracer (OK 2 people), said they think the Tracer is a bit heavy. 0.7 lbs extra heavy???
Bike Setup:
Chris King headset and hubs/mavic 517. Raceface turbine Isis cranks. Easton mg60 stem, ct2 seatpost, monkey light low bar. Sid SL (should've waited for the carbon race). XTR F/R deraillers/shifter, cassette. Paul motolite brakes/levers. Vanilla R shock. Time WCS pedals.SDG Bel-air seat.Hutchinson python tires (Should've bought the Nokians)
Bottom Line:
IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT, GET ONE. AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE!
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Submitted by
william okura
a Cross Country Rider
from mission potato, ca. Date Reviewed: October 25, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Crested butte.
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1995.00
Purchased At:
the bike company- they rock.
Strengths:
pretty plush... i wonder if the fsr/specialized linkage is is plusher though. efficient. my friends who try it think there's a motor on it. no flex.
Weaknesses:
the new laser etched "truth" sux compared to the old style.
pedaling out of saddle's a ? though. maybe my imperfect out'o'saddle technique though. ano-finish scratches easier than most believe! paper thin tube walls dent way toooo easily. get the Id if you're rough on things. i've got a nasty eye soar of a ding under the down tube(does no harm in overall structural integrity though). i hear a lot of negative things about the quality control of these frames nowadays. BEWARE of funky inconsistent defects before you buy these products!
Similar Products Used:
spec' fsr enduro, 99 fsr elite. klein mantra(sux). the Id. lts. and my dear '94 chrome stumpjumper hardtail- many EPICjurneez on that! inherited by my fiance!
Bike Setup:
fox coil, xt drivetrain/disc, z1 qr 20 so sweet!, thomson stem/post, truvativ stylo, hayes/hugi front disc hub, rhyno lites-----------welter weight TANK! ~28LBS.
Bottom Line:
dont get me wrong... i f^@#ing love this machine!!! i truly wet my eyes through the sheer joy of riding this beast! - but that's partly due to worshipping my God in thanks for giving me health to ride and providing means for the bike.
just be careful of being swept up by the inaccurate hype about these ellsworth truths. trust no one. do your own research by test riding other great contenders like the titus switchblade, Id, spec' fsr enduros(maybe that's stretchin' it). tracers are overglorified fsr enduros. giant nrs and ventana don't work under braking..
anyways, my truth rocks! and so after 6 months...
EPICjurneez
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Submitted by
Larry
a Cross Country Rider
from Palo Alto, CA Date Reviewed: October 20, 2001
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1995.00
Purchased At:
Reed's Cyclery, San Jose, CA
Strengths:
Plush ride. Great climber. Bearings at pivots. WAS available in green. Cane Creek AD-12 is super.
Weaknesses:
Shoddy workmanship, advertised weight is bogus, BB threads not chased, company has a holier than thou, mercenary, attitude.
Similar Products Used:
Intense Uzzi
Bike Setup:
AD-12, SID SL, SRAM, Precision Billet, Tune hubs and crank, Frogs, Mrazek brakes, Monkey Lite bar, Alien post, Gore cables
Bottom Line:
Above price I paid was for the frame only. Most people looking for a Truth have already read the magazine and MTBR reviews, so I want to write mostly about my customer service experiences. I did a fair amount of research before selecting this frame and was impressed with prior posts in MTBR. However, I think Ellsworth is trying to become too mass-market oriented. The basic design I feel is very good, but the execution is appallingly poor for a frame of this price range, and the customer service borders on arrogant. First off, when I purchased my frame, I noticed that I could not make the brake arms line up with each other. After closer inspection, I discovered that the rear brake bosses were not parallel with each other, (in the horizontal axis), i.e. one boss pointed up, and one pointed down. My dealer, who is EXCELLENT by the way, agreed and called Ellsworth. The rep there, I believe it was George, checked all the other rear triangles there. He told us that ALL the rear triangles they had at their facility had bosses that were not parallel, but some were off only in the vertical axis. Another words, he was able to find a triangle where both bosses were parallel horizontally but not vertically, i.e. they got closer together towards the bosses tips. This would cause the brakes to be toed out when they were installed. I figured I could at least compensate for this inaccuracy by toeing in the brake pads more than normal, so I accepted this flaw. Incidentally, a Santa Cruz Superlight frame I first bought (as well as three others the dealer had on the floor), also had unparallel brake bosses. I found out later that the same factory the builds the Superlight frame builds the frame for Ellsworth. But at least the Superlight frame costs MUCH less! I know a lot of companies advertise bogus weights for their components, and the Ellsworth Co. seems to lack integrity in this regard as well. They widely advertise 4.9 lbs for this frame. I have a medium 2001 model in green that weighs exactly 2,608 grams with the AD-12 shock, or 5.75 pounds! Even then, I was able to build up my bike to 21 pounds complete, including a Tune bottle cage. The bottom bracket threads were not chased. I have installed many BBs over the years, and had to have the dealer chase the threads on this frame before the BB could be installed. He said that he hasn't had to do this to a new frame in years. Though not relating to construction, the Ellsworth headtube sticker was placed off center and tilted, obviously placed hastily and without much pride. When asked about this, Jody at Customer Service told me curtly that it's crooked because "it's handmade you know". When I asked her for a replacement sticker, she told me that I had to PURCHASE an entire sticker kit! After getting upset about this, she said that she'd throw one in since I was buying over $100 worth of merchandise at the same time. My merchandise came, but the sticker didn't. I had to call again and it was shipped later. When I exchanged my rear triangle, the replacement one came without the Ellsworth chainstay guard that was on the original one. I was told that I had to purchase one for $10.00. I purchased by phone, at full retail, an Ellsworth t-shirt, cap and jersey when I first bought my bike. I was told that I could exchange or return anything that did not fit. When I tried to return the jersey, I was told by George that there would be a 15% restocking fee. Here I'm buying over $100 worth of merchandise after buying a $1,995 frame, I’m giving Ellsworth free advertising, and I'm being accessed a restocking fee. I was never told I would be charged a restocking fee when I ordered the merchandise. It took one month and 4 telephone calls to George to finally get my credit card credited after they received the jersey. Due to my hassles however, he did rescind the restocking fee. I started my own company 23 years ago in the service industry, and we are still thriving today. If I treated my customers like the Ellsworth Co. treated me, I do not think this would be the case. I've always emphasized customer service. If the customer is not happy, I bend over backwards to make it right, and I certainly do not charge the customer any more money to make it right! I cannot really fault the employees who didn't treat me right, because their policies and instructions on how to run the business I'm sure come from the top. Unlike many of you who have received a phone call from a Cathy at Ellsworth after purchasing their Truth, I received no call from anyone there. (Yes, I did send in the Warranty Card). I get the feeling they are now too busy to follow up with their customers anymore. Their bikes get good reviews, but I just want to give any prospective Ellsworth buyers a heads up on what being paying customer is like. I give the frame a 2 chiles for value and poor customer service, and overall rating of 4 stars. (3 1/2 would be more accurate though.) Bottom Line: The owner has a business degree and he tries to milk every last dollar from each of his customers, at the expense of long term goodwill and loyalty.
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Submitted by
Kenny Prather
a Cross Country Rider
from wpb,fla Date Reviewed: October 14, 2001
Favorite Trail:
409
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
wheels of wellington
Strengths:
Customer service is super! Cathy rules. PLUSH,sweet lookin', etched name is classy, shotpeen finish is classy,workmanship is first class, bearings are oh so smooth........
Weaknesses:
NADDA
Similar Products Used:
4 banger,TREK,Cannondale
Bike Setup:
All XTR,Chris King,Easton,Race face,Time,blah blah blah....
Bottom Line:
Well I see the last reviewer works for Outland or Titus,'cause the other 100 reviewers and myself cant all be wrong,and the BIG guy before him needs to learn how to ride like a human.The new bikes are perfect! Anodized, not paint, lazer etched,not stickers,and the welds are fine,I dont know what Sam S.is talkin' about. Had mine almost a year now and I cant say enough about how sweet it is,like one reviewer said......you waste 20 min. ride time havin' people talkin' to you and checkin' it out. Save your money up and just buy one,you wont be sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Submitted by
greg miller
a Racer
from Rochester Date Reviewed: September 22, 2001
Favorite Trail:
letchworth park
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$2200.00
Purchased At:
Online
Strengths:
Super lightweight, magnificant engineering, beautiful looks, superior handling both cross country and downhill.
Weaknesses:
I'd say, Price, but you get what you pay for. It's well worth the price. With the ball-bearing rear-end suspension, it will last for years.
Similar Products Used:
GT Team LTS, Pro-Flex
Bike Setup:
straight XTR, Hayes hydraulic disk brakes (sweet!), shimano 747, Spinergy Xyclones, Continental rubber, Thomson post/stem, King headset etc. AKA, my dream ride: New 2001.5 frame: http://www.networkiq.net/etruth2k.jpg My old Truth here: http://www.networkiq.net/truth.jpg
Bottom Line:
Two words: "my god" When it came in the box, it was like a piece of art you might mount in some museum somewhere. The welds, the craftsmanship, the paint, the ball bearing pivots, the laser-etched "Ellsworth" on the side but most importantly, the ride. It's miraculous. It's very responsive, super light, and confidence inspiring. =) I'm in love. http://www.networkiq.net/etruth2k.jpg 4 flaming chilis for the price but 5 for the wonderful-ness of the bike.
PS Be careful. They increased the head tube angle so that this model is a little fishy until you are used to it.
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Submitted by
George
a Weekend Warrior
from Farmington Hills, MI Date Reviewed: September 13, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Highland Lakes
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1800.00
Purchased At:
JB Mountain Bikes
Strengths:
Weight, Strength, Customer Service and Sales (JB Mountain Bikes)
Weaknesses:
Attractive to theives.
Similar Products Used:
Tested GF Sugar 1, Klein Adept, Giant XTC NRS
Bike Setup:
Marzocchi X-Fly 100, AD-12, Hayes, RaceFace Cranks & BB (ISIS),Rings,Grips, King H-Set & Hubs, Mavic 317, Thompson Post, Kore Elite Stem, Easton CT-2 Bar, XTR Drivetrain, Selle Italia Gel, Time ATAC Carbon, Bontrager Revolt Super X
Bottom Line:
Some may think it's crazy to spend over $3000 on a bike, but one ride will change your mind. The Truth is an excellent trail bike. The bike climbs like a goat & decends like a downhill skier. The bike is fast and confidence inspiring. There has been some claim to the frames "breaking." I'm 6' 215 and there has been no hint of failure and I ride this thing. If your serious about MTB, this bike is for you.
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Submitted by
marty
a Cross Country Rider
from danville, ca 94526 Date Reviewed: August 11, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Pauley Creek
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
vision
Strengths:
goes where you want, when you want. Light and plush
Weaknesses:
web site is goofy get some noise off of the back disc sometimes (have checked it a bunch of times, even had the rear caliper changed).
Similar Products Used:
have a superlight, GT fs, switchblade
Bike Setup:
psylo race, xtr ders, hayes hydro, thompson sp/stem, C King, Hugi(very nice), Cane Creek AD 12 (sweet). Hutch Python rear(good in hard pack), Pana XC pro front (sucks in hard pack)
Bottom Line:
This is follow up to an earlier post...The bike is unbeatable. You need to know how to ride to handle this thing-set up as a racer. You'll have no excuse but your ability if you get one. It'll let you tear up the trails at Downieville(get bigger tires) and still dominate the xc rides back home.
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Submitted by
Chris Yanavich
a Racer
from Woolwich twp, N.J. U.S.A. Date Reviewed: August 8, 2001
Favorite Trail:
To hard to deside
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1995.00
Purchased At:
Action Wheels
Strengths:
Great design from top to bottom. Strong welds, great tubing, and some real inginuity makes this bike the bike for any body.
Weaknesses:
I only had the bike for six days, and I have to admit I thought it may of had a problem with the drive train after a race, which I won by the way, but that was only an adjustment not the frame. The frame is awesome!!!
Similar Products Used:
I currently have no other Ellsworth products but that is going to change with time. The only other bike I have just broke at my last race.
Bike Setup:
Full XT kit with 517 rims, RS Sid XC, Thompson stem and seat post, chris king{no thread}headset,titec titanium handle bar
Bottom Line:
Awesome, inspiring, beautiful, durable, if your looking for the truth my friends come check out the Ellsworth Truth, it'll make you better just by having it.
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Submitted by
40 Acres
a Weekend Warrior
from Mountain View, CA Date Reviewed: August 3, 2001
Favorite Trail:
karpiel at northstar
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$5000.00
Purchased At:
RBM Sports
Strengths:
Light weight for a trail bike, lateral stiffness, climbs like a scared monkey, very capable on the descents.
Weaknesses:
Poor standover clearance, braking resonance in rear triangle.
Similar Products Used:
Santa Cruz Superlight, GT i-Drive, Intense Tracer, Aeon Isis, Kona Manomano, Rocky Mountain Element, Yeti AS-R
Bike Setup:
Vanilla R shock, Marzocchi X-Fly 100, King headset, Mavic 317's 3x laced to King disc hubs, Hayes hydraulics w/ 6" rotors, XTR cassette, shifters and derailleurs, Dura-ace chain, Next LP cranks w/ ISIS bb, Gore cables, Thomson post and stem, Monkeylite low rise bars, ODI lock-ons, Salsa skewers and clamp, WTB Motoraptors, ATAC carbons, WTB SST.
Bottom Line:
Superb trail bike. The bike does seem to bob (not much though) when I mash the pedals, but some of that activity is induced by shifting my weight on the saddle. If I pedal in smooth strokes the bike doesn't move at all . . . even on pavement. The design is very efficient, and the thing accelerates like a rocket. Downhill is a blast, (though the standover clearance is poor) which brings me to my first of three caveats. First, the head angle on the 2001 frame is too steep for an 80mm fork, so unless you enjoy faceplants, leave the SID Race on your hardtail. Although the frame is very light for a dualie, the geometry demands a 100mm fork, so this won't be an ultralight racer. Don't go over 100mm either. I started out with an X-vert Super, and the extra 5mm made the handling feel off kilter and sluggish. If you want a longer travel fork, buy an Id. I estimate that my 18" bike weighs in at 25 1/2 lbs. I don't race, and this is more than light enough for me to kick ass on the climbs. My second caveat is the disc brakes. The rear triangle resonates very loudly when slowing down from certain speeds. I've tried scores of adjustments, but nothing seems to help. I'd be curious to hear if others have had the same experience. My third and final caveat is that the bike draws LOTS of attention, which means that you'll be answering questions for 20 minutes at every trailhead and you can never, ever let it out of your sight. Very expensive, but well worth it. Five steaming monkey turds.
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Submitted by
nils
a Cross Country Rider
from san diego Date Reviewed: July 6, 2001
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
North of the Border bicycles
Strengths:
light and laterally stiff, very efficient pedalling, great descender
Weaknesses:
none. expensive but no more expensive than similar bikes from Intense etc.
Similar Products Used:
Intense Uzzi SL, KHS FXT, cannondale/trek/GT mainstream full suspension bikes, litespeed softtail, etc.
Bike Setup:
marz. Z1 Xfly, XTR drivetrain w/ race face Ti BB/Turbine cranks, Bontrager ceramic rims, Chris King hub/headset, Bontrager Jones AC tires, LP composites bar and seatpost, Titec Berzerker seat, XTR brakes
Bottom Line:
this size Lg. 25 lb (approx.) bike rips on So Cal trails, and the bushings have req'd no maintenance despite all those miles. it's built up as a sort of lightweight freerider (stout wheels and tires, big seat etc.) and works perfectly for me. the new 2001 Truths are supposedly heavier than my 1998 model, according to LBS. I got a good deal on the frame ($1200) which allowed me to customize the build, but even at 2,000 retail I'd buy this frame again. the value is high since the durability appears to be excellent.
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Submitted by
rathbone
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego Date Reviewed: July 3, 2001
Favorite Trail:
trail starting at my backyard
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
North of the Border (best Ellsworth dealer in SD)
Strengths:
Makes riding way more fun than I thought possible. Light, stiff, suspension active under braking/climbing.
Weaknesses:
Perception that the best full suspension bikes are not equal to /or superior to the lightest hardtails. Cost, but the high quality is worth paying for.
Bike Setup:
Zoke '01 X-fly 100, Thompson stem(5 deg. 120mm)/post, XT, Avid arch-rivals, Time ATAC, Mavic 517, CT2 flat bar.
Bottom Line:
If you think spending $3000+ for a complete bike is insane, think again. The money that I spent to buy the Truth (plus credit card interest yet to be accured-ouch! I'll gladly eat it for this bike) is the best money I've ever spent. One way to describe the ride of the Truth is this skiing analogy: no skier wants to cut turns through choppy water or snow...your always trying to find the smoother off-the-beaten path water or un-skied snow to carve turns through....with the Truth, everything from rocks (loose or poking up) to ruts to washboard (all the nasties) are now the unskied area that is suddenly made available and now the perfect place to hammer on hard. Now that is what I call fun! Go buy a Truth and start carving up technical sections up and down!
I'm glad I read the MBAction review (now on Ellsworths website) so that I knew what to expect when I first started riding the Truth. The rear suspension has been tweaked this year to be more active, which is a bit disconcerting coming off a hardtail....but now I am addicted to it. For ten years I used to ride once or twice a week. Since I picked up the Truth, I now ride four to five times a week! The Truth has great balance, steering and handling (even w/the 100mm X-fly) is excellent. I cannot get in enough riding time with this bike.
The superlight hardtails might be better on the non-technical climbs, but when everyone gets back to the bottom the Truth rider will have a huge smile on their face, and the hardtail riders will be internally moaning (won't admit it) while they shake the numbness out of their arms, neck, back, and legs. I have been riding a nice hardtail for several years, and I'm an ex-football player, so I liked the abuse and kinda miss the recklessness of barely being in control on rough descents on a hardtail...but now know the "truth". I seek and destroy all the roughest sections of the same trails that I had to avoid with the hardtail....its like I have access to completely new trails. Going up gives me just as much pleasure as going down.
I've been a late adopter to the full-suspension bikes due to the incredible number of yuppies/dorks that buy exspensive/heavy mass-market garbage/junk (this especially true of San Diego), and equated full-suspension to being a lame rider and mediocrity. If it's done right, like the Ellsworth, you needn't feel that way.
Support your local LBS. If your in North County (San Diego), check out North of the Border's shop (SE corner of Mira Mesa Blvd and Pacific Heights)...sorta hard to find, but they are Ellsworth experts and have the best to deal with..give them a shot.
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Submitted by
brian
a Racer
from englewood, colorado, usa Date Reviewed: July 2, 2001
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
online
Strengths:
it can hit the hills hard and is a great bike. i would put judys on the frame instead of the noleans but other than that a great crosscountry bike!!! i would get my hands on one!!
Weaknesses:
the back of the frame usually cracks because of the easton carbon chainguide. also paint tends to chip a little right under the screw hole for the rear shock.
Similar Products Used:
i dunno man!!
Bottom Line:
a great bike. usually around $3000 but you can get them for cheap used!! great all in all crosscountry bike!
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Submitted by
Bill
a Weekend Warrior
from Bountiful, UT, USA Date Reviewed: June 16, 2001
Manitou MARS w/no bob, Fox Air Vanilla R, XTR Shifters/Rear derrailer, XT front, XT Cassette, Race Face BB/Next LP crankset, Avid Mag levers, Avid Arch Rival Brakes, KORE post/stem/bar, Spinergy Rev-X wheelset, Panaracer Fire XC, Serfas ARC saddle, AME tristar grips
Bottom Line:
The suspension is 1000 percent better than the Heckler's. No bobbing, chain slap, ghost shifts, brake jacking, and flat tire sensation. The ride is comparable to a hard-tail. That's until the trail gets rough. The suspension is very efficient at getting power to the ground. As stiff as the Heckler is, the Truth feels more precise in tight single-track (mono vs multi-link). The Truth, however, doesn't feel to have as much travel as the Heckler athough the literature specifies them to be the same. Probably due to the Truth's Air Shock vs the Coil/Oil of the Heckler. I love both bikes, but the nod goes to the Truth.
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Submitted by
Charles Hill
a Cross Country Rider
from Cincinnati, OH USA Date Reviewed: June 13, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Laurel mtn. NC is one of favs
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$16000.00
Purchased At:
Bike shop owner who is friend
Strengths:
Lightweight frame, durability, active shock system. Very efficient pedaling system, I am faster on my Truth than on my hardtail
Weaknesses:
Price I suppose, but since I got a pretty good deal that really isn't relative to me.
Similar Products Used:
Rode all hardtails, but demoed an I-drive and Trek Y-bike
Bike Setup:
Marzocchi X-Fly '01, Vanilla R, CK hubs and headsets, CT bars, RF cranks and BB, Avid Arch rivals, Thompson stem and seatpost, XT everything else
Bottom Line:
This is my first full-suspension bike, so I was very nervous about getting the right bike. After demoing an I-drive and Trek Y-bike and then having a friend break 6 Sugar frames, I was happy to stay with my hardtail. Then I met a guy in the parking lot with a Truth and he let me ride it and I was very intrigued. As a Clydesdale Sport rider ( I weigh 230 lbs.) I was very concerned with the full suspension robbing me of my climbing ability (which I desperately need). After 3 months of riding the Truth, I am very impressed with ride and enjoy the new challenges of new trails.
In short, the Truth corners like it is on rails, climbs like a goat and makes technical descents thrilling. So far I have nothing but positives to say about the Truth and I have let my riding buddies test out the Truth versus their full-suspension and they always come back green :).
I do have one caveat, run a 100 MM fork on 2001 Truth, I have a very nice scar that I obtained while trying to adjust my steering with an 80 MM fork. Never could quite master it, so I finally went to 100 MM and the steering is now dead on. Just my humble opinion.
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Submitted by
Steve
a Cross Country Rider
from Maplewood, MN Date Reviewed: June 5, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Anything in Sedona
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
Singletrack Factory (Denver)
Strengths:
Outstanding build quality, sealed bearings, very stiff bottom bracket, light weight, great looks, laser-etched graphics, anodized finish, shockchoices, I could go on and on.......
Weaknesses:
Oversized tubes dent a little too easily, limited frame sizes
2001 Gray Ano 18" frame (very cool color - highly recommended), Fox Float-R, Bomber Z-2 (85mm), XTR der. & hubs, XT crank, Avid brakes, Thomson seatpost (410mm) & stem (120mm x 5), Avid flack jacket cables, Flite seat, Geax tires
Bottom Line:
I looked at & rode just about everything in the short/mid travel FS XC category. The Truth rode & fit the best, so I swallowed hard at the frame price ($1,895 w/King headset), and went with the Ellsworth. I couldn't be happier about my decision. The bike handles like a hardtail, but handles the nasty stuff with some VERY smooth & progressive suspension travel. I went with a Fox Float R shock, on the recommendation of the Singletrack Factory. The shock was a great choice - it's a perfect match for my plush Z-2 fork. I really don't miss having a lockout, as the Truth moves a little bit when you pedal hard, but not enough to really notice, unless you're actually looking at the shock. (FYI - I run the shock at 240 lbs pressure, 20 lbs over my body weight)
One note about fit - The Truth comes in a limited number of sizes, so it won't fit everyone. I normally ride a 19" frame, so I needed a way long 410mm Thomson seatpost to get the right fit. Also, I disagree with the comment below, stating that the Truth has a long top tube. Actually, it's pretty much middle of the road by current standards (about the same as the Klein, way shorter than the Fisher Fuel). Personally, I think the geometry is just right, as the Truth is quick & precise, without being overly "nervous".
I'm not particularly hard on bikes, but at 220 lbs, I can easiliy flex the bottom bracket on most frames - except for the Truth. It's rock solid where you expect it to be. For heavier riders, the Klein was the only other lightweight FS I tried with a stiff enough bottom bracket.
One negative - I dented the top tube about 3 weeks after I got the bike. It doesn't affect the bike's performance, but was a big time bummer nonetheless. The tubes aren't as thin as a Klein, but are thin enough to be somewhat suceptible to dents.
I've already had the opportunity to ride this bike in 4 different states on a wide range of trails. Without a doubt, my Truth the best all-purpose cross country bike I've ever owned or ridden. The 4" rear travel is probably overkill for the trails in Minnesota, but it sure does come in handy for those trips out West! Buy one!
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Submitted by
Paul
a Cross Country Rider
from San Jose Date Reviewed: June 4, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Wilder
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
Beyond Bikes
Strengths:
Light weight, looks, climbing and decending capability, sealed bearings, scratch resistant anodized finish, frame is shotpeened, lifetime warranty,
Weaknesses:
Your kidding right?
Similar Products Used:
Turner XCE, Turner Stinger, SC Tazmon, Superlight, Heckler, and lots of others.
Bike Setup:
Full XTR , RS Pyslo SL.
Bottom Line:
Now that I've had this bike for eight months I feel it's time to post a review. I bought my first Truth in June of 2000. I rode it for 2 months and then turned around and sold it for a 2001 model (with sealed bearings). The difference was night and day between the two. The current Truth is much more plush and fully active on aggressive climbs and downhills. There is absolutely no brake jack or biopacing what so ever. I'm 5"8 and ride a medium which fits me perfectly. The 23 1/2" top tube makes for a roomy cockpit which is perfect for long and steep climbs. Having a longer top tube makes it much easier to keep the front wheel down when climbing steep sections. I run a 120 length 5 degree rise stem and an Azonic 1" rise World Force riser bar. The four inch head tube is great because it allows a lower front end. I have the Pyslo set to 3.7" on the down travel which feels perfectly balanced with the rear end. I tried running the fork with 4" of travel but it jacked the front end up too high giving it a "chopper effect". There is no monkey motion in the shock when pedaling. To put it straight I love climbing on this bike. Whether it's fire roads or technical single track this bike rocks on the climbs. The four inches of travel sucks up the bumps while providing gobs of traction. Just mash on the pedal and see what happens. Tony Ellsworth configured this four bar monster to sling shot forward when you apply the accelerator. Now for the downhill part. This frame tracks and corners faster than I can push it. The frame is exceptionally stiff with no indication of flex (I weigh 170lbs by the way). The 16.75" chainstays are perfect combined with the longer top tube. The steeper head angle is great because it allows you to run between an 80-100mm fork. One of the best things I love about this bike is the sealed bearings. They are oh soooooooooooo smooooooooooooooooooth. I can ride through puddle after puddle and not ever hear a "squeak". In fact my daily ride has two shallow creek crossings in which I just plow threw without a worry. If you want the best hardcore XC bike on the planet look no further. If you want the best deal on one give Beyond Bikes a call (866-245-3911). The staff is very knowledgeable and friendly. The only thing left is to ask yourself: How fast do I want to go?
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Submitted by
Alfa Biker
a Weekend Warrior
from Los Angeles Date Reviewed: May 30, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Middle Sam Merril, El Prieto, Backbone to Will Rogers
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1995.00
Purchased At:
Glendale Cyclry
Strengths:
Great handling, solid feel, good fit (the small frame has a sufficiently long top tube), nice finish on the main frame and the suspension linkage, fabulous riding rear suspension that feels both solid and compliant. Braking over rough terrain is smooth and chatter-free.
Weaknesses:
Head tube is a bit short, access to rear shock shut-off is a bit tight (luckily not required under most circumstances), I'm not wild about the graphics, but that's certainly a personal taste thing.
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale Super V 900 (1999 model) and hardtails
Bike Setup:
Manitou Mars CL forks (80 mm), XTR drivetrain, SRAM shifters, Nukeproof carbon hubs/Mavic 222 rims/double butted spokes, Easton carbon seat post/bars (straight), Avid magnesium V-brakes/XTR levers, Fox Vanilla RC shock, Specialized titanium spindle pedals, Panaracer Fire XC 2.1 tires, Bontrager Ti rail seat. With pedals, an honest 24 pounds -- not light by hardtail standards, but acceptable, in my mind for cross country racing and club rides.
Bottom Line:
I can no longer blame the bike for anything I do. I was going to ride the Truth a bit more before posting a review, but after one ride, I felt it was worthwhile to get my first impressions recorded. I took it on it's maiden ride last evening on some hills (fireroad and single track) behind Descanso Gardens. I just had the forks rebuilt by Manitou, pumped it up to my usual 100 psi (I weigh about 145), and rode it with no adjustments to the rear shock. Amazingly, it felt very close to being optimal. The rear felt a little firm, but rode more comfortably than my Cannondale (Fox Vanilla with 800#(?) coil spring. Over stair step water bars, the bike just floated over them with ease. It was even better with more speed. On a sketchy fast curvy downhill fireroad, it felt perfectly predictable (think Mert Lawill sliding sideways, feet up, San Jose mile). On the singletrack, the steering felt completely neutral, neither too quick nor too slow -- just right. As noted above, it was a revelation braking over over a bumpy, rutted surface -- no loss of suspension, no chatter, just constant, even traction. I agree with most of the other reviewers -- the Truth is expensive but worth every penny.
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Submitted by
Albert
a Cross Country Rider
from Lawrence, MA, USA Date Reviewed: May 27, 2001
- Bottom Bracket not chased - limited sizing - not good for riders < 5'5" - front derailleur cable routing looks suboptimal - rear derailleur cable routing goes through seatstay instead of using cable stops
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Marzocchi '00 Z1 XFly and Fox Float R ESP 9.0 9 speed '01 shorty with '00 SL derailleur XT cassette & front derailleur, XTR chain Avid mechanical discs and Mag levers and flak jackets XTR BB and cranks with chromoly frogs Speeddream wheels with Velocity rims and King discotech hubs Dean Ti post, Avocet mtb seat, Ritchey WCS stem, Monkeylite CT2 riser bars
Bottom Line:
This is my first experience with full suspension after spending 10+ years riding hardtails, so my perspective is probably quite different than many reviewers.
The bike handles extremely predictably and it inspires alot of confidence. Perhaps too much confidence; I'm still suffering from piloting errors once in a while.
The rear suspension is very active in all conditions - seated or standing. There is a strange sensation that you see certain obstacles in the trail (series of logs, roots, gently rolling grassy knolls), but don't really feel them very much underneath you. This is mildly disconcerting, but it also means that the bike is very comfortable to ride for long stretches of time.
Climbing - the Truth climbs fast! The bumpier it is, the faster it is! On smoother climbs, it feels just like a hardtail with zero perceptible bobbing in the saddle or out.
I'm not a really fast descender, but it feels very stable on fast and slow speed descents alike. On high speed descents, the bike soaks up big hits very well without losing directional stability. On load speed descents, the suspension's activeness does not change as you change from seated to out of the saddle to seated positions, which is nice and confidence inspiring.
On singletrack, the Truth feels like a hardtail on steroids - just as responsive, but alot smoother and easier to ride.
Negatives? There are negatives with every bikes - its just a question of the magnitude. With the Truth, there are some things they could change, but none would really affect the actual ride of the bike. The main problem is cable routing - the front derailleur cable routing seems to have a pretty hard bend in it - I will post a followup review to see whether I have any problems in the future. So far, no problems, but I have new cables... Also, the rear derailleur cable threads through the "seat tube" on the rear triangle, which is okay if they provide a platic guide like the old Vitus bikes. For $2000, they should do that instead of doing a cheesy job like the old Trek 2000 road bikes of ten years ago. Finally, for $2000, Ellsworth should chase the BB shell. C'mon guys! However, these are seriously small flies in a very large ointment pool. And the Ellsworth ointment sure works well!
From a value standpoint, the Ellsworth gets 5 chilis because it is built to last - the basic design hasn't changed in 5 years, and I hope they continue to make minor tweaks (see negatives above). Its great to buy a bike that won't be obsolete and that is fun to ride now.
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Submitted by
Todd
a Weekend Warrior
from Mill Valley Date Reviewed: May 25, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Eldridge Grade, Zig Zag
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3600.00
Purchased At:
RBM Sports
Strengths:
Frame, Suspension, overall build quality, customer service...this bike climbs well, has no bob and is plush!
Weaknesses:
Weight, lack of frame sizes. This is not a bike for weight watchers and not really an XC race bike no matter what they say.
Similar Products Used:
DBR V1, Superlight, GT idrive, Element
Bike Setup:
hayse, Romic rear shock (the bomb), Manitu xvert super, Monkey light bars, 9.0 shorty shifters and rear der, XTR front der, 317 with hugi 240, CK headset, Time Atac, Thompson stem and seatpost, Truvatin cranks and bb ~ 28lbs
Bottom Line:
Looked around alot before I bought the Truth and it was pretty much between the superlight and the truth. I have only had the bike for about a month but I have about 200miles on it and all I can say is that the Truth shall set you free!!! I definitely made the right choice.
Note on setup: I am 195 lbs and I set the bike up in a more free ride manner.
Pros- 1) The 4 bar linkage suspension is outstanding!!! There is NO BOB and is FULLY active under braking. All the movement while climbing comes from your body movement and not from the suspension. No other suspension (other than turner) compares.
2) The bike is PLUSH it feels more like a 6 inch bike. I am cleaning things I could never get down before. I am crashing less and picked up about 6mph on the steep and fast sections over the DBR v-link which was 3.5" of travel. Some of that is disk brakes (Yea baby!!!) The bike is stable at speeds of up to 32mph.. never had enough space to go faster so can't comment above that. One note... get the Manitu x-vert! I had an x-fly 100 and it is not even close! Also the Romic shock is perfect for the bike if you are over 180lbs... smoother than the cane creek and they are coming out with a ti spring that will bring it within grams of an air shock for the weight watchers. Call Elsworth and ask them about it.
3) Handling: The handling is quick without being twitchy. 100mm fork is the way to go unless you are racing or weight watching or dont't care about riding down hill fast. It does not affect the fast feel of the bike. The truth is great on technical stuff. I can bunnyhop a good 6" higher and find myself riding up things I could not dream of on my former ride. The front end leaps off of drops. Landing is easy as it seems you are always in the correct riding position. The bike is well ballanced and feels like there is a low center of gravity (opposite of the DBR and the GT idrive). It tracks wonderfully and accelerates well out of turns on twisty single tracks. Going down it is the ideal trail bike!
Cons- or sort of
1) the bike is not light...~ 28lbs. There is no way they could build up a 23lbs Truth that actually was trail worthy. People claim that they have 25.5 lbs Truths with disk brakes... no way. True, I added disk brakes, a coil fork and a coil shock... all that adds about 3 lbs over the lightest of equipment but the performance makes up for it going down and riding technical slopes. However, you should be able to set up good 4" trail bike with disks under 27lbs at this price. That means that the frame weight quoted is more like 6 + lbs with the romic and close to 5.6 or 5.7 with the cane creek. The Superlight is lighter when built up...Whatever... I was slow going up the hill before and I am slow now. Petaling is super efficient. I stay seated and just ride up EVERYTHING. Energy spent going up is minimalized. I can clean trails going up no problem as the wheel stays in great contact with the ground. However, at this weight the bike does NOT jump forward the way a light racing hardtail does or even a superlight set up for XC. Also, on rolling single track it is hard to keep speed on the uphill sections. My friends on hardtails still crush me going up, especialy if we are climbing on fire roads.. (MT Tam) and I still crush them on the downs and technical stuff... And I have WAY MORE FUN! Going to downyville this weekend and will bury them all the way down.... One guy even rents a bullit and I can keep up unless it gets really big and that is more me than the bike.
Final - Final The Way I have the truth set up it is really the perfect trail bike - light freeride bike. The frame is bomb proof and a work of art. You can get up anything and it is very comfortable for long rides. It is not a race bike and probably not great for north shore extreme 6' drops...You as the buyer must be honest with yourself and ask.. am I droping 10' on the shore or am I racing xc and is being the first up the hill the most important thing...If you are not in those categories this is the best ride on the market and worth every penny!!!! I will post another review on the durability of the product as I log more miles.
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Submitted by
Brian
a Cross Country Rider
from Pennsylvania Date Reviewed: May 18, 2001
Favorite Trail:
All single track - can't reveal the names
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Strengths:
Stiff, Efficiancy, weight, descending prowess
Weaknesses:
I wish the bottom bracket offered more clearance.
Similar Products Used:
Klein Adroit Pro, Intense Tracer, GT Avalanche SE.
Bike Setup:
Full XTR drivetrain and brakes. Rolf propel wheels, Manitou Mars, Fox Float R, Easton post and monkey lite.
Bottom Line:
This bike is by FAR the best I've ridden, and I've been riding a long time. I didn't have a dealer within striking distance, so I could see the bike or take a test ride. Jody at Ellsworth told me to "take a leap of faith and buy it....you won't be disappointed." B/c of the great reviews, I did take that leap. This is the best all purpose bike I've ever thrown a leg over. It climbs as if I'm 20lbs lighter than I am and descends like a champ. Tomorrow I pick up a 100mm fork (Marzocchi X-Fly), I currently have an 80mm fork (Manitou Mars 1). This bike is also so much stiffer than my Intense tracer, which I was happy with. It also doesn't offer as much of that annoying chain slap that the tracer did. I ride over rock gardens and roots and I just can't believe how firm and quiet this bike sounds.
I'll leave you with 1 TRUE story. My favorite ride takes me 2 hours, a big loop. To test my truth I took it on this loop and cut 15 minutes off the trip. That is no BS....15 minutes faster on the TRUTH. If you have the $$$$ buy the TRUTH, if you do not.....buy the Tracer. You'll see me blow by on the trail. Good luck and save your money - it is well worth the cash.
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Submitted by
Vader
a Cross Country Rider
from Breckenridge,CO Date Reviewed: May 18, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Colorado Trail
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$4100.00
Strengths:
Weight, handling, responsive, customer service
Weaknesses:
Price, Rear Der. problems, Seat clamp, flexey front end. Besides that not much else.
Similar Products Used:
Riden HT's my hole life, and Kona King Kippue(sp)
Bike Setup:
Pretty much like everyones elses, XTR, C.K., Thompson, Hayes, Easton, R.F. Blue 2001 frame stratos expert, Z-1 xfly
Bottom Line:
The bottom line is at first I was not very impressed at all. It has taken some serious riding for the bike to finally settle in and for me to like it finaly. I have had many problems with the bike overall. Now I have been riding more and more, everything is now breaking in and I'm feeling better about my purchase. The reason for all the weaknesses first, for this kind of price range it should be perfect. The rear deur. hanger is bothering me somewhat, I don't care whos to blame. The seat clamp is chessy for this price range, and the front end flex is probley due to the short head tube. My HT frame is bigger and stiffer. Overall I hope to have many years of good luck from this time on. I will give an update at the 1 year mark. It's hard for me because I'm compairing this bike to one of the best of all time my Klein hard tail.
HAPPY TRAILS TO YOU, UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN.....
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Submitted by
BIG PP
a Weekend Warrior
from Northern CA Date Reviewed: May 12, 2001
Favorite Trail:
ALL
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Purchased At:
JBMTB
Strengths:
PLUUUUSSSHH Tracks like you can't believe
Weaknesses:
yeah right
Similar Products Used:
Klein hardtail
Bike Setup:
White bros AT3/XTR/KING/Easton Monkeylite and MG stem/Avid/RaceFace Next
Bottom Line:
If you have the denaro do it-I can not imagine there being a better ride out there. Mine weighs in at ~25lbs. I know that there is nothing else I'd rather be on coming down a rutted fire road at 30MPH. And you? 5 of the hottest turds for it
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Submitted by
Ralph Annechino
a Weekend Warrior
from Rochester, NY Date Reviewed: May 12, 2001
Favorite Trail:
haven't found it yet!
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Craftmanship. Ride quality. fun factor. Ellsworth service has become a lot better.
Weaknesses:
I am not sure? headtube angle or me?
Similar Products Used:
2000 Truth, Dare, Isis, Joker, GT LTS, super-V, Y-22, Amp II, B-3, and a few hardtails.
Bike Setup:
Med. 2001 gray, Pyslo XC(just put on SID 100), XTR/517/mythos, Avid brakes/levers, 9.0 Shifters/der.,monkey lites, american classic Ti post flight saddle, time Atac, Stylo isis cranks/BB, lock-ons.
Bottom Line:
The 2001 frame has a steeper headtube angle and I have had a hard time adjusting to the twitch feeling of the steering. I even tried the pyslo at 120mm which really felt weird. I set the fork back to 100mm and gave it some time and things are getting better. As for the rear end, WOW! It is way more plush than the 2000 model. It moves a lot more when hammering out of the saddle, but I will never give up the ride in any other situation. I have ridden a lot of full suspension bikes and not a one has come close to the ride of this one. If you have the chance to ride one, you will come back from the ride with what we around here call "The Ellsworth Grin"
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Submitted by
Flash
a Cross Country Rider
from St.Paul Mn Date Reviewed: May 10, 2001
Favorite Trail:
The Farm
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1995.00
Purchased At:
Grand Performance
Strengths:
The frame (4inches of buttery butterness) The Ellsworth Crew (info,fun to shoot the sh*t too, helpful) Did I mention the frame.....
Weaknesses:
Stickers (but i do love em) and all the guys in tight shorts looking at me, or is it my bike? Hmm
Similar Products Used:
All hardtails :( So .....(gt zaskar, Zaskarle, Zaskar le
Bike Setup:
Sram 9.0sl der and shifters,ritchey wcs stem, king headset, Marzocchi Z1 fork, thompson seat post, time pedals, wtb 98 seat., Stratus coil rear shock, hayes cable disk brakes, and mavic cross max disk ust tubless with hutchinson mosquito tires, monkey light riser bar....odi lockons ....
Bottom Line:
At first ride i loved it. Than I learned how to really use the power kinda like how Luke learned how to use the force. The bike climbs like a billy goat and descends far better than all of my hardtails of course. I no longer have to pick my line I just float over everything. I really can't explain it any better. Lets just say i outlast my friends on our rides and my wife....Well my wife hates it.
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Submitted by
greg (farmanimal)
a Cross Country Rider
from kansas city Date Reviewed: May 7, 2001
Favorite Trail:
all trails are good
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
various outlets
Strengths:
2001 Truth SE... beautiful to the eye, fassssst, responsive, true craftsmanship... this is THE TRUTH when ridden.
Weaknesses:
seriously... ok maybe the stickers... but they dont use em anylonger unless you have the natural frame like mine.. people stopping you to gawk
Similar Products Used:
NOTHING IS EVEN CLOSE
Bike Setup:
SE with Fox RC... Marzocchi Z1 QR20...XTR shifters, front/rear derail... Scram chain... Ritchey OCR Disc Wheelset...Thomson seatpost... LP carbon fiber bar... Ritchey Zmax rubber...Race Face Next LP Cranks/Rings...WTB Ellsworth saddle...Gore Ride On Cables... Kore Elite Stem... Magura Louise Discs
Bottom Line:
This took me a total of 6 months to build... WORTH EVERY PENNY, EVERY SECOND... I went through lots of changes here but the end product is supreb! I have been a bike a year guy for the last 4...NO MORE... I didnt build for feathere weight, I built this to do long trail rides... this frame is so very quick, it transmits ALL your efforts... NO WORDS can truly describe... and its nice when Ellsworth calls you to see if you like your bike..(Cathy rocks)...I built a dream... it was well worth it..the TRUTH is there just arent enough flamin' flyin' buro-toes ... thats the TRUTH
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Submitted by
Craig
a
from Missoula, MT Date Reviewed: May 5, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Flints, B-Roots & B.C.
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
The Ride! An actual trailbike! Roomy cockpit short chainstays!! ELLSWORTH customer service!!
Weaknesses:
It doesn't reproduce on its own.
Similar Products Used:
Kona Hei Hei, Kona Stinky, Rocky Element, Monster Fat, Gullywogger
Bike Setup:
Psylo, Hadley hubs, Hayes, Mavic, Stratos Helix Expert, XTR R. Der
Bottom Line:
I am way psyched...The Ellsworth folks offer 'A1' service(if you everneed it). The rig is balanced and stable at both high and low speeds, like REALLY balanced. I have the psylo @ 100mm, I tried it @ 90mm, but it rides better @ 100mm. Basically my dream bike. Nobody else has the same roomy toptube and short stays on a 4" XC full suspension bike that will take a 100mm fork. I would think of it as an all-day techy dreamride rig! The 'horst' pivot rocks! Kinda spendy, but I think the customer service makes up for it. A big thanks to Cathy and Greg at ELLSWORTH for answering my questions, helping me out, and just being COOL.
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Submitted by
Martin
a Cross Country Rider
from bay area CA Date Reviewed: May 5, 2001
Favorite Trail:
fast 1ngl
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3600.00
Purchased At:
vision
Strengths:
cranks like a sweet road bike. Dh are smooth. It only goes where you want it to.
Weaknesses:
more chain slap than my Superlight
Similar Products Used:
Superlight
Bike Setup:
Hayes hyd, Hugi/317, thompson sp/stem, c king, time, xtr ders, xt cranks, wtb 98, panaracers, carbon bars, Pyslo race, crane creek ad-12
Bottom Line:
Hard to imagine anything better. Absolutely no need for a lockout rear-no bob. Super acuarate steering. Light. Climbs anything very quickly. Takes hard hits and puts them somewhere on the dark side of the moon. Even with this heavy shock and brakes the bike feels like a feather. If biking is your drug, this is your fix. I'll post a 6 mo follow up with tuning tips-both of these shocks are very tunable.
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Submitted by
Brett
a Cross Country Rider
from Angels Camp, CA Date Reviewed: April 30, 2001
Favorite Trail:
New Melones
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Everything- Light, fully active suspension, Awesome Anodized finish, lazer etched graphics, and the list goes on
Weaknesses:
Are You Nuts??!!
Similar Products Used:
Intense Tracer (also fabulous), Specialized S Works
Bike Setup:
Green Frame all rasta'd out with Custom Anodized Gold rear triangle, Manitou SX Carbon, Fox Vanilla R, Specialized S Works Wheels with Ti cassette, XT/XTR derailleurs and Shift/brake, Sugino 900X cranks (600 grams)Titec Ti Stem, Easton CT2 Post, Avid SD Brakes, WTB stealth peds. 23.5 lbs
Bottom Line:
Just took my first serious ride on the this baby and what a ride it was! On windy singletrack it's like the bike turns itself, it is so well balanced and quick handling. On sharp banked turns it almost seems as if it throws you around the curve. Climbs like a billy goat on speed! I took these parts off a bent hardtail frame, and let me tell you, light full suspension hooked up infinitely better on climbs than my HT did. I run Specialized Mt Baldy on the rear and the suspension keeps it glued to the dirt, where it belongs. On descents, the Truth feels very stable at moderate to fast speeds, speeds that make riding a 21 lb hardtail scary. So, there it is, a work of art that climbs easier than a hardtail, craves speeds a hardtail can't reach, and reduces fatigue so you can ride all day and into the sunset. Almost 80 riders have logged on a rating of 4.99. This should remove any doubts that this is the world's greatest Traibike. Thanks to everyone at Cyclopath Fresno for helping me dial this in. Ride Ellsworth Ride!!
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Submitted by
Sach
a Weekend Warrior
from NJ Date Reviewed: April 24, 2001
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Dreamride and Marty's Reliable
Strengths:
it just shoots forward.. no bob when you crank down on it.
Weaknesses:
NONE! except maybe something not worth mentioning, but the emblem on the headtube was scratched.
Similar Products Used:
none - in a class by itself
Bike Setup:
I spared no expense, Mavic UST Discs, Hutchinson tires, Raceface Cranks & BB, King headset, XT Disc brakes, Frog pedals, XTR everything else.
Bottom Line:
First off I'd like to say thanks to Lee at Dreamride for a sweet deal on my Ellsworth frame! Secondly, a huge thanks goes to the guys at Marty's Reliable for helping me put together the bike of my dreams.
The Truth has one unbelieveable ride. My ride has improved tenfold (now if I could improve too). It tracks well, turns nicely, stops on a dime, what else could I ask for? http://www.ellsworthbicycles.com http://www.dreamride.com http://martysreliable.com
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Submitted by
Jay
a
from Cherry Hill, NJ Date Reviewed: April 21, 2001
Favorite Trail:
All of them...
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Purchased At:
Action Wheels
Strengths:
The frame is exquisite! The design, presentation and performance are outstanding!
Weaknesses:
I have not found one yet.
Similar Products Used:
Klein Mantra, Litespeed Obed, Cannondale M500
Bike Setup:
Marzocchi X-Fly 100, Cane Creek AD-12 Rear Shock, XTR 9-speed, XTR brake levers, Avid Mech. Disc Brakes, Bontrager Race Disc Wheels, XT Hollow Tech cranks, XT front derailuer, Thomson seat post and stem, Cane Creek saddles, Time carbon pedals, Easton Monkey Bar, Cane Creek headset.
Bottom Line:
The 2001 Truth is amazing. I have never felt more comfortable on a bike in technical situations. It is very well balanced. The bike is extremely responsive at low and medium speeds and is competent at high speeds. I will be very interested in how well the bike stands the test of time. Coming off of a Klein Mantra that had a very inactive rear suspension when standing, the Truth's fully active suspension, when seated and standing, is quite remarkable.
I did first run the bike with a 2000 Marzocchi X-Fly which felt great. (I ordered the 2001 X-Fly, but there was a mix up in the box - 2000 fork in 2001 box) The 2001 X-Fly 100 just arrived and I hope this new version of the fork feels similar.
Although I bought the Truth for all the right reasons, it is kinda neat getting the "cool - sweet bike" reponse from other riders.
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Submitted by
Russ Morrell
a Downhiller
from Sandy, Utah, USA Date Reviewed: April 5, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Porcipine Rim
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1800.00
Purchased At:
From Bingham Cyclery
Strengths:
Light, for a downhill freerider that's not in shape this thing helps me get up the mountain without dying. For four inches of travel it decends better than some 6-7 inch bikes I have riden. Tough powder coat painting. I love the bushing pivots for the smooth feel they give, better than most seadled bearings I've used. Also very easy to maintain and take apart for cleaning and putting back together.
Weaknesses:
The only weakness I have is I can't do big drops with it, but thats why I have a DH and FR bike now isn't it.
Similar Products Used:
Titus Quasi-Moto, Specialized FSR, GT I drive. Not much, bought one without ever riding it, faith that turned good.
Bike Setup:
WB AT-4, hayes disc brakes, full XTR, Mavic 317's with specialized hubs, couldn't wait for chris king hubs to be built up, needed to rid, plus good deal, kore elite 80mm headset, Easton riser bar, CT2 seat post, specilized male seat, tioga 2.1 DH tires, speedplay crom peddles.
Bottom Line:
Dope bike. This bike was well worth the price, as are all Ellsworth's, I also own a Dare. Anyone looking for an amazing climber, that can be turned around at the top and decend like a champ should get this bike. When using a tighter laid back cockpit, not the best for climbing, like I do, takes 3-6 foot drops really well, haven't gone above that on this bike, and also jumps good. Also doing long rides the change in terrain, like most of Moab, this bike is perfect for sticking to the trails. If you want to get off the trail and do big drops, check out the Dare. All I got to say is good job Ellsworth this is a perfect bike. Need I Say More.
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Submitted by
Munson
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego, CA Date Reviewed: April 2, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Noble Canyon
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$2500.00
Purchased At:
Bike Empire
Strengths:
I know everyone says this..but its so true. Excellent in the climbs and oh so plush in the downs.
Weaknesses:
I hate to even say this because it is such a small think and who really cares..but the stickers. Its already been fixed to its a mute point.
Similar Products Used:
I know it was a scam but I fell for it..Living X, Trek, Nishiki, Cannondale.
Bike Setup:
Sram 9.0sl, XTR front. Profile carbon risers, Chris King, Race Face cranks, XTR brakes, Thompson seat post, White Bros front, Stratus XC rear.
Bottom Line:
Before riding this bike I was a devoted hardtail rider. I rode one of my friends Ellsworth at Noble canyon one weekend and that was all it took. I went down to the shop and picked one up the next weekend. Man I tell ya...she is SO smooth. I loved the lockout ability of the rear shock, but I found that I rarely use it. Its such a smooth ride with it, and the rider doesnt feel any of the anyoying bob...so why turn it off? She loves to climb and descend. I have an older model prior to the sealed bushings, but I havent had any problems yet, and she's been riden pretty hard. Its a bit pricey, but I havent even touched any of my other bikes since I picked this one up. This is the best all around bike I have ever riden. I highly recommend one if you have the means. Oh yeah, she gets a bit timmid when your riding along and come across rattle snakes...or maybe thats me...I dont know. Just avoid em'
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Submitted by
Terry Toste
a Cross Country Rider
from Ukiah, CA Date Reviewed: April 2, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Slick Rock
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Denny Bicycles Ukiah, CA
Strengths:
The Truth is an excellent full suspension frame. Anyone who come into contact with one will have one. The geometry is spot on, and the finish rocks. Their customer service is OUTSTANDING! Even Tony Ellsworth is one Cool Kat. I will never ride another frame again.
Weaknesses:
My frame came with an untapped bottom bracket. This turned out to be no problem. I recieved a call from Tony Ellsworth apologizing and giving me exact instructions on how to tap my frame. This actually was not a weakness at all. There is nothing bad to say about Ellsworth Bicycles.
Similar Products Used:
Ventana Marble Peak, Santa Cruz Ultra Light
Bike Setup:
XTR brakes, brake levers, shifters, front and rear derailleurs, 9 speed Ti cassette, Chris King headset and hubs, Easton CT2 bars, Thomsen seatpost and stem, Sun 0 degree XC rims, Custom SDG bel air seat, Race Face Isis bottom bracket and Next LP cranks, Time World Champ pedals, Panaracer Fire Road XC tires, Stratos Helix Expert rear shock, Marzocchi Z2 Atom Race forks, Profile Carbon bar ends, Gore-Tex cables, and Oury grips
Bottom Line:
The Truth gives me so much confidence that it's scary. It's very fast and can hold a line like nobody's business.
The Truth is well suited for a rider that has an eye for art. This frame is a masterpiece. It's almost a shame to ride it. On the serious side though. If you have the dollars, love to ride for a long period of time, and want to add a gear to your riding, then this is the frame for you.
Good looks, good handling, and OUTSTANDING customer service make Ellsworth Bicycles the company to beat in my book.
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Submitted by
Jerrick
a Cross Country Rider
from Sunnyvale, CA Date Reviewed: March 20, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Downieville
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Great craftmanship; built to last; light weight; 4" plush travel; sealed pivot bearings
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Specialized FSR XC, Giant XTC NRS
Bike Setup:
Truth ICT: Psylo XC; Fox Float RC; Chris King headset & hubs w/ Bont Valiant rims; Easton Monkey lite bar & CT2 post; Precision Billet brakes; Truvativ Isis Team cranks and BB; XTR lever, deraileurs & cassette; Titec Big Al stem; Continental Explorer Pro tires. (24lbs. could be lighter with lighter air forks)
Bottom Line:
I took a chance in buying it without a test ride, but I did a lot of research on it. Read reviews from MTBR about it and talked to people who owned one. And I'm sure glad I purchased one. What a big difference from the last two bikes I had. Much more plusher when things get rough going down, but still a very good climber, specially on loose, rocky steep climbs. It's nimble and quick handling through fast, twisty single tracks. Great all around bike, can be set up to be raced or set up for hard-core trail riding. Beautifuly built strong, just check out the bottom bracket area, state-of-the-art. Sealed bearings on all pivots was a great upgrade from the older Truths, no more noisy bushings and maintenance free. Yes it's xpensive, but you get what you pay for. It's ells-worth-it.
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Submitted by
derrick n
a Cross Country Rider
from chapel hill, NC Date Reviewed: March 19, 2001
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Franklin St. Cycles
Strengths:
Craftsmanship, Appearence
Weaknesses:
none so far
Similar Products Used:
none--all prior bikes were hardtails
Bike Setup:
good stuff
Bottom Line:
While on the trail my pat answer to people who ask "how's it ride"-->"here, ride it." My pat answer to people who don't have time atac cleats or aren't on the trail-->"I hate to admit it, but I seem to have purchased skill". At first I found it difficult to clear my favorite obstacles, because I was unaccustomed to the nuances of full-suspension. After a few rides, I discovered a few things. Jumps, logs, obstacles all require more cat-like preloading of the suspension. Rather than getting my butt off the seat when going downhill, I sort of due a pinch squat on the seat to take advantage of the traction the rear suspension allows and finger the rear brake more. When climbing up hill, I just sit and spin. Basically, this bike makes me sad, because is sort of disheartening to realize that a bike could make so much of a difference in my rides--thought it was all me. I remember getting a my first full XTR bike in 93--what a difference. Then I got clipless pedals and a Manitou 3 a few months later, again, a huge difference. But no bike since then has produced the "oh my god, I can't believe how sweet this is" feeling. Sure it's heavier, but it seems as though I have much more energy in the second hour of a ride than I had riding my hardtail. Time will tell how durable the thing is when subjected to stupid stuff; I've already blown the stratos-ar1 shock doing what I like to do (sent it to stratos, and they said that I needed more shims to stiffin it up--rides great now--if you want quick turn around on warranty service, be sure to ASK for express shipping) I feel like a jealous boyfriend, because I don't anyone else to ride this bike.
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Paul Sciabica
a Weekend Warrior
from Oakley,Ca., Date Reviewed: March 18, 2001
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1995.00
Purchased At:
Tahoe Bike Pro[they're history]
Strengths:
Four bar design with proper component set-up=unparalled performance
Weaknesses:
I didn't hit the right set-up the first time,translation; cough up more bucks daddy-yo!
Similar Products Used:
Intense Tracer and SantaCruz Superlight[large SL frame for sale]
Bike Setup:
Raceface, ChrisKing,SelleItalia, Thomsen,XTR,Time,Continental,Manitou,and a bunch of TLC.
Bottom Line:
This is a follow-up review written earlier.Since my last writing,I have discovered bliss.I was distressed that I was experiencing an unknown clicking that I could not pinpoint,but eventually discovered. The rear swingarm bearings were moving back and forth in their machined positions. Called Ellsworth and was reassured that problem could be remedied by cleaning machined positions with rubbing alchohol and applying blue Loctite on bearing races and then repressing the bearings into their respective postitions, the fix would be complete or Ellsworth would replace the swingarm[with hopefully a tighter bearing fit]Well, problem solved.Bearings are now fixed and keeping quiet.Also,replaced Fox Float RC with Stratos XC Pro, and switched out 98 Zokes Z1 Bams for Manitou X-Vert Supers. Voilla! Wonderfully controlled suspension, front to rear, that almost equals the comfort and control of my main squeeze, a 2001 250 KTM EXC. The real Truth of the matter is that with some careful setup, this bike really rocks! It costs a bundle, but the Ellsworth Truth is worth the patience to get it right. That's if you don't have to file a Chapter 13 while sorting things out.
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Submitted by
John McRaven
a Racer
from St Louis, MO, USA Date Reviewed: March 16, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Berryman
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Purchased At:
Touring Cyclist
Strengths:
Quality, stiffness, suspension efficiency
Weaknesses:
der hanger bent on first ride for no apparent reason, that's it
Similar Products Used:
Sugar 1 (I already have a hardtail), Trek VRX (yuchh!), Klein Mantra, Giant NRS
Bike Setup:
Rock Shox Psylo Race, Full XT with disc brakes, Spinergy Xyclones, Fox Float R, Easton Monkey lite bar
Bottom Line:
I'm a long time hard-tail rider and racer so when I got this bike I was expecting all sorts of trade-offs in climbing and sprinting in return for less punishing ride and a little more downhill speed. But so far I havent really seen any negatives. It only weighs a couple of lbs more than my hard tail and climbing (while seated) is even slightly better because of the increased traction. Out of the saddle climbing and sprinting isn't quite as good, but much better than some other full suspension bikes I've tried. I'm not quite as happy with the Fox Float R shock - it seems to go from being nice and active but too soft straight to stiff and unyielding. I haven't found that sweet spot yet for the pressure. I love the Psylo - it is plenty stiff and tracks well, although with it in the 125mm setting it slows the steering down noticably. I think I'll knock it down to 100mm soon. XT disc brkes work incredibly well. Other than the der hanger bending somehow on the first ride (???) the bike has been flawless. I'm now stuck with deciding which bike to ride in this year's races!
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Submitted by
Jim
a Weekend Warrior
from Overbrook, KS USA Date Reviewed: March 10, 2001
Favorite Trail:
anything dirty
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1850.00
Purchased At:
JB Mountain Bike
Strengths:
Light, Strong, Elegant... Piece of Art. Goes forward not up and down. Quality of construction. 4 bar rear.
Weaknesses:
Ellsworth Web Site. Where do those forms submissions go?
Similar Products Used:
Trek 930, Gary Fisher Joshua F1, Gary Fisher Sugar
Bike Setup:
16" Blue 2001 ICT, SID 100, Cane AD12, Avid mag V's, Thompson post & 110 stem, F&R XTR, XTR lever - pods, CT bar, Avid flack jackets, Sele TransAm, Race Face Cranks, Bonty Race Wheels
Bottom Line:
BUY IT. Goes up fast. Goes down with confidence. The 2001 frame is adjusted to handle 100mm forks. My setup has the weight at under 25.5lbs. I really love the precision handling while climbing slow technical rough stuff. This one is definetly a keeper. Nice touch was the call from Cathy to see if I was happy. I did have to retighten the pivot bolts the first couple of rides and Ellsworth told me to keep a special eye on the shock mounts. I almost bought a Santa Cruz Superlight. Boy, am I glad I took the $$$ plunge. No peddle kick back that I can tell and any bobbing that I've sensed usually meant the trail was bumpy or I was bouncing on the seat. This is one beautiful piece of machinery. My wife told me to go build the friggen thing after I walked around the house for and hour, frame in hand, showing her the welds and craftmanship! I'll definetly buy more Ellsworth. If you're interested in a Truth, and there isn't a dealer in your area, give Justin at JB a holler you won't be dissapointed!
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Submitted by
royce strohl
a Cross Country Rider
from bernville,pa.berks Date Reviewed: March 8, 2001
Favorite Trail:
The Pagoda,BlueMarsh Lake
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$6500.00
Purchased At:
j.b. mountain bikes reading pa
Strengths:
this frame is built like a tank! but has the weight of a indy car xtra large frame totalweight 25.5lb,s
Weaknesses:
not in this lifetime
Similar Products Used:
klein mantra, intense tracer
Bike Setup:
hayes hyd,velocity aeroheat rims,xt rear hub,raceface nextcranks,bomberZ.1QR20,easton stem and seat post,raceface headset,gore cables,giro seat,xt shiftersand derailleurs,cateye at100,carbon monkey bars,fox RC,pc-99 chain,XTR cassette,chris king headset,raceface bottombracket,IRC KUJO DH 2.25
Bottom Line:
This is a TRUTH SE and this bike ROCKS!!!!!This bike climbs like a cat and charges downhill like a bull,and this is no bull.Lots of rocks in eastren Pa. and this bike just eats them up!When you hit singletrack she is like a smooth bottle of wine.All day in the sadle is no problem thanks to the well balanced suspension.The bomber up front let,s this bike handel anything you can throw at it.There is not a better bike made.To bad the bike mag. company,s cant get their hands out of their pants and ride a real bike instead of all the clone bikes they ride.If you have the chance to ride a TRUTH you will become a believer.Intense Trace cant even come close to this craftmanship!Rock On People and Live To Ride and Ride To Live!!!!!!!!!!! (If you got the cash and an understanding wife dont pass this bike up.)Look up J B mountain on the net and tell him the STEELMAN sent you.)
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Submitted by
ElliGirl
a Cross Country Rider
from Huntsville, Alabama Date Reviewed: March 2, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Monte Sano State Park
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$3600.00
Purchased At:
J.B.'s Cycles in PA
Strengths:
The Truth is lightweight, lifetime warranty on frame, high reliability, quality craftmanship, and it allows me to follow my husbands line even if it is ugly!!
Weaknesses:
Stickers. Enough said.
Similar Products Used:
Klein Mantra, UniVega DS 900, Kona Hahana, Trek 8900 Litespeed Tsali
Bike Setup:
Truth 2000 16", Rockshock SID(80 mm), Cane Creek AD10, Easton monkey lite bar, Cane Creek direct curve 5 brake, WTB headset, KORE seatpost, Terri Ti-butterfly saddle, Ellsworth Ti skewers, XT groupo, Time Atac pedals, Specialized wireless backlit computer, Rhyno Sun 0 degree light rims, 12/30 XT cassette, 22/32/44 crank rings. Marin 25 degree 100mm stem. And a micro bell. This bike has Elli-girl written all over it. And for when I want to night ride my Night Rider Digital 6R is charging.
Bottom Line:
The bottom line for me is that I am a more confident rider with the Truth. Being a female rider I need every edge I can get and this bike gives it to me. I immediattely improved in my climbing, technical skills and downhill speed. I just float over things now. I am so proud that other riders remember me because of my bike!! My husband bought my Truth sight unseen as an Anniversary gift. I had my doubts because of the $$ and I had never even sat on an Ellsworth and then this bike comes in and he builds it up for me, customizing features that really make me feel spoiled rotten!! Most importantly, even though I'm not really a skilled rider, (having only been at the sport for 3 years) the Truth allows me to ride as aggressively as I want and it allows me to ride with the "HE-MAN" group with no doubts about my bike holding up. I've climbed hills and handled drops that before I only dreamed about making. I have probably put 2500 miles on this bike and haven't had a mechanical problem yet. J.B.'s (in PA) was good to us when we went searching for the Truth and we couldn't ask for better factory support. My husband has been so impressed with Ellsworth that he has recently become an Ellsworth dealer and opened Huntsville Bicycles. Way to go Toney, Mike, and staff!! An Ellsworth is the bike of a lifetime.
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Submitted by
Vaughn
a Weekend Warrior
from Paradise, CA Date Reviewed: March 2, 2001
1. Rr Drlr side pivot bearing backed out on first ride. 2. Cannot use bottom swing differential plate front drlr because of rear shock lower mount location. 3. A little lateral flex
2001 Medium light Blue Marzocchi '00 CR Z1 with 105 mm medium kit, the 130mm was overkill. I'm thinking about drilling out the compression dampening. Avid mechanical/Hugi 240 disc 32 hole front and rear. Various canadian and XTR other. Fox Vanilla Float R set around 200lbs
Bottom Line:
1. Form. Great lines. Aesthetically as good as it comes. High-tech while holding classic bike appearance. Great attention to detail with only a couple complaints.
Why can't this thing be set up with a bottom swing front drlr. I do like the re-arrangement of the shock mounts on the seat tube. It just looks stronger, everything looks a little more reinforced. bbuuutt... Is it so all fired important to have the lower pivot location exactly where it is so that we can't mount a regular bottom swing on the seat tube. Ellsworth could easily give us bolt hole for a bottom bracket mount low swing drlr. The only problem with this new type of drlr is that it locks in your drlr height so that you are limited to compact range front chainring options. Most people wouldn't use this for monster downhilling and wouldn't require a 48 or 52 tooth big momma anyway. The XTR differential plate derailleurs on my other 3 bikes are much crispier shifters than this old style high top swing '00 XTR drlr.
I really did not like the rear drlr pivot bearing backing out on my ride number one. Indicates poor assembly line attention to detail. ...and Tony Ellsworth says use high strength (red) loc-tite to secure the bearing. I used med strength the first time and it lasted for two months. I can't believe my lateral flex is controlled with a little loc-tite. I'm not an engineer, but that just seems odd.
The bearings do seem quite good, they are more supple than the junky ones on my Chuck. I'm not sure that the older bushing style wouldn't work just as well. Rather interesting that both Titus and Ells went to bearings after arguing against them for so long.
2. Fit. 5'10" 185 lbs. Have a 120mm 0 rise stem. Didn't like a Titec wide 9 degree sweep flat bar, and switched back to a slightly wider, but more important for me.. taller ride. Spares my back and neck, and minimizes the frequency of my fully loaded camelbak jacking up the back of my helmet and compromising my vision on those sketchy descents.
3. Function. Perfect for what I like. Long fire road climbs, and swift singletrack drops with smattering of technical. Quick side to side, better than the more relaxed angle '00 Truth, and my Chuck.
Suspension action is great, and I think well balanced. Thinking about drilling out the compression cartridge on the zokes to make it softer, but honestly it would be more to experiment than because of complaints about its activity level. I don't think I'd want it softer for climbing.
No front end wander with climbing. Lets you concentrate on keeping the pedals grinding on those tough efforts.
Great descender, which is my top priority. Not a big hitter, maybe it could be but I'm not willing to gamble the price of this frame by bouncing it and my head off rocks and stumps. When the yen gets me it will handle more than I can demand. Too lightweight for serious trials or big air. A North shorer, (I'm not nearly that skilled) would fold up a Truth without trying to hard.
The avids have been a fun addition, having never used discs. Very pleased. Didn't appreciate a real performance improvement, (other than great wet riding improvement) until using a '00 Truth with XT Vees. Remember when we all thought that those were so much stronger than the old cantilever type. This is not that big of a jump up in performance, but it is a jump nonetheless. Discs are definitely the future. My limited experience with XT and Hayes discs on other bikes has also been excellent.
Overall, I've been quite pleased. Think I'll keep it. I can't give it perfect marks. Minor complaints, but valid. At this price, it should be perfectly perfect.
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Submitted by
Dr. Brad
a Racer
from Alberta Date Reviewed: February 22, 2001
Favorite Trail:
all of them
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$1495.00
Purchased At:
Direct from Ellsworth
Strengths:
This bike is the best! It allows me to ride faster, farther and longer with less fatigue. Efficient pedalling is spot on. Very strong frame. Easy to service. Dealing with Ellsworth is a dream, they always answer your questions and if you need anything they stand behind their product.
Weaknesses:
Say what? The only gripe I have after 2 years is the shock. Mine is a stratos AR1. I had to send back in for revalving to make the bike respond to my wishes. Now the bike jumps when you stomp on the pedals, they say in the reviews "like a scared cat". How about like a XR650R dirt bike! Another weakness is that I only have one Ellsworth, I'm looking seriously at the Roots as my next investment.
Similar Products Used:
Rocky Element T.O. The rocky was very inefficient, a lot of bob and sqeaks coming from freshly greased pivots.
Bike Setup:
Z2 X fly, Raceface next lps, ti bottom bracket, ti bolt kit, xtr shifting and brakes, raceface stem post headset, king-517ceramic wheels. carbon bar. Large frame, that weighs 10,832 grams.
Bottom Line:
I will never own another brand of mountain bike. Once you ride one you will understand. Once you race one, you will not think about bikes the same way. I will be riding this bike 20 years from now and still be in love and satisfied that I made the right choice. I am very passionate about cycling in general. It's great to have builders out there who can provide and support my needs. I can't agree with anyone who complains about the price. In life you get what you pay for. I would have this bike if it where twice the price. This company deserves more than just chiles for there committment to building the best bike on the planet! Tony and the crew, thanks for the perfect ride.
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Submitted by
Pierre-Alexandre Blanche
a Cross Country Rider
from Liège, Belgium Date Reviewed: February 21, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Sart-Tilman
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$4050.00
Purchased At:
Arizona Bicycle Experts
Strengths:
Light, strong, ball bearings, 4 bar linkage.
Weaknesses:
Did you said weaknesses ?
Similar Products Used:
This is my first full suspension bike.
Bike Setup:
R Shock: Fox Float R F Shock: Marzocchi Z2 Xfly Brakes: Hayes 2001 Transmission: XTR Handle bar: Easton EA70 Hubs: DT Onyx Rims: Mavic X317 ...
Bottom Line:
My first bike was a GT Avalanche, very stiff (and I still love it). I was looking for an XC full suspension but with four bar linkage (fully independent) and ball bearings (to avoid mud abrasion problem). I literally fell in love for the Truth frame. Of course it is expensive (so 4 chilis), but I plan to keep this bike for long time.
The Truth is very good. I have ridden it in the sandy-rocky trails of Tucson AZ (4 months), and now in the muddy-slippery trails in Belgium (2 months). It handles both very well.
Since this is my first full suspension bike, I cannot compare it or tell you it is the best. I love it and feel good on it, this I know. It allows me to clear sections I could not with the GT or to go faster (much faster) in down hills. I do not feel any power loss because of the suspension. If it goes up and down, just pedal more round.
Since my frame was one of the first 2001 releases, it is not laser engraved and I have the famous sticker problem. Tony Ellsworth has told me they would laser engrave my frame for cheap, but I prefer a fully anodized frame, which is more scratch proof.
The only thing I have doubt about is the chain line. I have a 3*9 crank set and it seems that, when using the first cranks (biggest) the chain is not aligned which can quickly wear the components. I am not sure if it poses any problem. Some suggestions?
I also find the EA70 handle bar is too straight for me. I like flat handle bar but with more angle to avoid curved wrists. The bar hurts me on long rides.
Hayes 2001 disc brakes are wonderful. With the new spring, which retracts the pads, there are not any noise or drag problems. They are powerful and pads last for a long time, even in the mud.
Buying that bike I was wondering if I was stupid to paid that high of a price. Now I am sure, I love that bike.
Price fades, quality remains.
A full comment can be found at www.vtt.org. It is in French but there is Babelfish translation.
Pierre
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Submitted by
kFanghe
a Cross Country Rider
from Toronto Date Reviewed: February 17, 2001
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
$1900
Strengths:
First, the craftmanship. Truely amazing, everything is thought out through to the smallest details. Amazing welds and CNC work. A true work of art. Slide your finger along the insides of the headtube as it tapers to safe the slightest ounce of weight. Second, the ride, just awesome
Weaknesses:
price, and the price of the components that belong onside with with the Truth. Please don't accessorize with STX and Tektro, that's just wrong. Bottom line, you get what you pay for so save up.
SID SL, Easton plastic, XTR, Chris King, etc. = 23.4lbs
Bottom Line:
I believe this is the best x-country frame on the market. It's 1lb lighter than the Intense Tracer; weighs the same as the Santa Cruz Superlight and has true active suspension vs the monopivot Superlight; lighter than the Turner Burner and more travel too. In my book, these are the only frames that are even in the same league as the Truth, but even so the Truth is better. The ride is plush but has very little petal feedback. Very nimble. I don't know how the ride could possibly get any better. Haven't had any troubles yet with the suspension. Basically nothing to complain about or even moap about (in terms of the frame). It's definatly a very fun bike. The service is excellent. A girl named Cathy will even call you after your purchase just to see if everything is up to snuff. If you do decide on getting the Truth get the right shock. I recommend the Fox Float Air RC w/lockout. It's sweet and works like it's suppose to (lockout comes in handy every now and then too). May want to opt for the 2000 model cause it's the last model just before they switched to seal bearings. That's just my opinion. If bushings are built right they'll work as well has bearings which they do. Not only that but they're much easier to service and replace. Apparently, Dave Turner thinks the same. In short the Truth rocks!
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Submitted by
Paul Sciabica
a Weekend Warrior
from Oakley,Ca. Date Reviewed: February 16, 2001
Favorite Trail:
any direction out the garage door
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1995.00
Purchased At:
Tahoe Bike Pro[out of bizz]
Strengths:
Four bar walking beam,rigid,light,clean craftmanship,and looks cool just sitting there!
Weaknesses:
I've got a click I can't locate yet,but I'll find it. Also,I'm not to fond of Fox Float R shock.
Similar Products Used:
Santa Cruz Superlight,Intense Tracer[both for sale]
First,Troy in Brentwood,Ca.,e-mail me.Your phone message was not clear on my message machine. Now,I'm about 220lbs. and 6ft. The medium frame is my best fit due to my short 30in. inseam. I have to admit that I wasn't impressed with the bike's performance with the Fox Float R. I'd have to ride with so much air pressure to calm down all the monkey motion that the shock danpening would ramp-up to hard and to soon.If you reduce the pressure, shock action improved,but the bike pogoed more than I would like.Solution, called George at Ellsworth and he suggested trying a Stratos XC Pro. Handling ills are History. This shock on a Truth with a larger rider,in my opinion,is the way to go if you choose to rear air suspension.No more unwanted bobbing, great action, and infinite adjustability. Now my Truth rocks like I expected too! Very quick and very smooth! Also thanks to Randolf at Stratos for the technical advice and hearing me out.I finally found someone who understands suspension.
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Submitted by
Noe Valles
a Cross Country Rider
from Brownsville,TX, USA Date Reviewed: February 15, 2001
Favorite Trail:
River Trail
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1799.00
Purchased At:
Raymond's Bike Shop
Strengths:
The Workmanship is AWESOME.This bike rides AWESOME, it is truly one of a kind.The price of this bike means nothing after you feel the performance; you get exactly what you pay for in this machine.The people at Ellsworth are great.I really do believe that they care how their cutomers feel; they call you. That's almost unheard of from any other company. Bottom line: there is no other bike that compares to the TRUTH and that's the truth.
Weaknesses:
After a year of riding my Ellsworth in some of the rockiest terrain in South Texas, not one single thing has gone bad on this bike.
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale SV-800,KHS,Jamis,GT,K-2,Specialized.
Bike Setup:
2000 Truth,Race Face Next LP,Spox-M1,Easton Ea70 stem,Easton Monkey Lite Carbon Riser Bar,Easton CT-2 seat post,Precision Billet Brakes,Koobie Xenon,Yeti Hardcore grips,Time Atac pedals,XTR shifters,casette,rear deraileur,xt front deraileur,XTR chain,Flak-Jacket cables IRC XC team tires,Cook Bros QR's.
Bottom Line:
When I first saw the Ellsworth ad, it completely caught my eye. I made it a point to find out as much as I could about this bike. All I had to go on were reviews and magazines. I had never known anyone to own an Ellsworth. I was taking a giant leap of faith considering the price of this bike. Now after a year of owning one, I know that I made the absolute right choice and there will never be a need to own another brand of bicycle. That's how much I love my Ellsworth Truth. It is my most prized possession. Thanks, Ellsworth.
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Submitted by
Geoff S
a Weekend Warrior
from West Caldwell Date Reviewed: February 13, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Ringwood,NJ - Sedona,AZ
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1900.00
Purchased At:
Bikeco, CA
Strengths:
'Truth' in advertising. Bike is beautifuly built. Light but looks bombproof. Only had my first ride with it, 1st impression is great. Suspension feels great, it is plush but not bouncing. Riding conditions were very icy so handling reviews will have to wait
Weaknesses:
did bend my hanger on the first ride. I don't know if it was chain suck in the front or the chain broke first. I'll see if it is chronic. (It was mud and icy).
Similar Products Used:
old rides were a 98 Trek Y-33 & 93 Trek 8700 - they will be collecting dust. riden mantra's, specialized, tried a tracer and a jekyl
Bike Setup:
01 black truth, o1 zoke x-fly 100, fox float r rear shock, hayes disc brakes, full xtr drive train, gore cables, Rolf domolite disc wheel set w/ mythos tires, monkey lite hi rise, Icon stem (need to replace),Chris king headset, syncros seatpost & WTB saddle
Bottom Line:
Great bike only one ride but i love it. Bought it without ever riding it. I swore i would never do that but i did and don't regret it.
Jon at Bikeco was a great help. Bought it mail order, highly recommend them if you go mail order.
I would have bought it from Cyclecraft in Parsippany,NJ if it weren't for some recently departed misinformed employee. Great local shop
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Submitted by
gary
a Weekend Warrior
from illinois Date Reviewed: February 13, 2001
Favorite Trail:
anyone i can get out and ride
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1800.00
Strengths:
everything...weight,rigidity,nimbleness,and you take a left over the drop off while everyone else takes the flat trail !!! it screams "hurt me "
Weaknesses:
still trying to locate one.....maybe that i can't have one for every day of the week...and that ellsworth makes other choices (too many to choose from)
Similar Products Used:
intense tracer....soft tails...and every hard tail available
Bike Setup:
manitou xvert air....ad 10 and other truth has ad12...sun ryno lights w/hayes super lights/ race face crank/xtr stuff/easton monkey lite risers/avid mechanicals w/avid ultimates
Bottom Line:
this is the most versitile bike available...you can make it light ( i had it down to approx. 23.5 lbs.) or make it bullit-proof. this was the hardest decision....so i bought two...1 light and the other beef'd up....and i think its time to order a "joker" just for the new rocky down hills we found... the truth is a blast to ride. (fyi),stay with ad10/12 rear shocks...craftsmanship, finish,welds,customer service,warranty are all the reasons to buy this bike. SPREAD THE LOVE, join the cult !!! you wont be dissapointed! remember, you get what you pay for!!
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Submitted by
Brian Brumm
a Weekend Warrior
from Las Flores, CA USA Date Reviewed: February 8, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Saddleback
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3999.00
Strengths:
Smooth, Quick Response, Great Tracking, Built to take the abuse.
Weaknesses:
None seen yet
Similar Products Used:
ProFlex 856
Bike Setup:
Cane Creek AD-12 shock, Headset, Team TI Rims X-Vert Air fork, Answer Stem and Riser Bars, SRAM 9.0 shifters and derailleurs, Thompson seat post and WTB Ellsworth seat.
Bottom Line:
This bike is just plain velvet! The bike is so smooth over any terrain that it seems like you're riding a hardtail over a semi-paved fire road. The 4' of travel both front and back eat up any obstacle seen or unseen. Bobbing is almost none exsistant, even when climbing the most steepest of climbs. No rattles, no squeaks, just a great bike for the money, even though it's 3 times the price I originally spent for the ProFlex 5 years ago.
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Submitted by
John Pollock
a Cross Country Rider
from Tucson, AZ Date Reviewed: February 2, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Monarch Crest Trail
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$4700.00
Purchased At:
Ellsworth
Strengths:
It climbs like a banshee, descends like a rocket, floats over rocks, and maneuvers around them like a ballerina. Over rough terrain, it feels like a rigid frame on a smooth surface.
Weaknesses:
Haven't found any.
Similar Products Used:
Moots YBB, Cannondale Raven
Bike Setup:
Stratus AR-1, Manitou Xvert Air, XTR derailleurs and shifters, Avid brakes, Race Face Turbine LIght crank and Race Face Isis bottom bracket, Cane Creek Wam wheels.
Bottom Line:
I'm in love. I feel like I lost twenty pounds and ten years. I cannot believe how it climbs, descends, and maneuvers over the incredibly rocky terrain with which we are blessed in southern Arizona. I find myself climbing two gears higher than I did on my Moots, and the control I have over the bike on gnarly descents amazes me. On a flat twisty single track I can practically wish it around corners.
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Submitted by
Derki Longshanks
a Cross Country Rider
from Oregon Date Reviewed: January 29, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Too many to list
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$5000.00
Purchased At:
Frame at
Strengths:
Too many to list. Pure quality
Weaknesses:
???! your serious?
Similar Products Used:
Proflex. Mountain Cycle....ect.
Bike Setup:
Monkey lite bars. Easton Mag 70 Stem Hayes Disc Brakes Spinergy Xyclone Disc Rims Hutchison Python Tires Selle Ti Flite Gel Saddle Thomson Elite Seat post RaceFace Next LP Cranks XTR drivetrain Xvert Super front shock
Bottom Line:
Okay with a bike like this the only thing it can show you is your own flaw. There is no better hard tail or soft tail that can be bought. The only reason you do not see every MTB racer on an Ellsworth …is sponsorship. If they had a choice they would be ridding a Truth. That is no lie. There is simply not a better frame on the market. The only way to improve on it would be to make it lighter.
Going into corners is a bit scary. You can take a corner on a truth far faster then any other bike. The suspension adjusts itself to what you tell it to do. Any mess up is entirely your fault.
Down hill is the bomb. Point and go. Where other bikes would rattle apart and toss the rider the Ellsworth feels as though its not even taxed. Going 25 mph…see a 6 inch boulder in front of you? Not a problem….roll over it.
To end…YOU CAN NOT buy a better bike. The next closest bike is about ¾ the way up the scale with the Ellsworth Truth at the top and a huffy at the bottom. The only bad marks given to this bike are by people that are pissed they cant afford one. This however is actually the best way to keep all the people that aren’t serious about the ride from ever owning the piece of pure art.
Selling your belongings….sell your family. If you are serious about biking you HAVE to have the best bike ever built.
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Submitted by
Brian Mulford
a Cross Country Rider
from Aliso Viejo, CA Date Reviewed: January 24, 2001
Specialized Enduro Pro, GT XCR 1000, Santa Cruz Superlight
Bike Setup:
2001 Ellsworth Med - Grey, 2001 RockShox SID SL 80mm, Cane Creek AD-12 100mm, All 2000/2001 XTR, Thompson SeatPost/Stem, Easton CT2 Bar, Yeti Grips, Mavic 517's w DT Hugi 240 hubs, DT Comp Spokes, Hutchenson Python Airlight Tires/tubes, Specialized TI pedals, Chris King Headset, Selle Italia Flite Gel Saddle, Ellsworth TI Skewers, Salsa Quick Release, Specialized Team Wireless Computer.
Bottom Line:
As mentioned in many other reviews - this bike does live up to the hype. Its light, very well balanced, quick steering, climbs like a HT, descends nicely, and is in general a pleasure to ride.
I found going from a trailbike to this more XC setup, that climbing takes less energy, and I average 2mph faster uphill. I can climb the technical stuff, and steer through the loose stuff with moderate ease. I have a little less confidence on the downhill run's - but that can be attributed to setup. The frame and components do a great job - just not as plush as a psylo or z1.
The 2001 also has a few nice new features like sealed bearing (less maintenece than 2000 models)slightly modified geometery (more XC in my opinion) and laser etched logo's (instead of those awful stickers that peel). The SID SL 2001 is also much stiffer and generally a much better XC fork than its predesessors.
I was able to get a new ellsworth truth fully built out for a very reasonable price. If I had to pay $5000+tax for it new, I might not have done it. That said, the ellsworth truth is the BMW 540 of bikes - performance, balance, and versatile.
5 flamin value chili's due to my discounted price, it would be a 4 if I paid full price for the bike. 5 overall chili's due to the total quality of the package.
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Submitted by
Chris Dye
a Weekend Warrior
from Orem, UT Date Reviewed: January 13, 2001
Favorite Trail:
trail to happiness
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
ICT Suspension Design Easton Tubing High Quality Manufacturing Processes Shot Peened Anodized in World Domination Grey
Weaknesses:
I study less now.
Similar Products Used:
Lots of FS bikes (and hardtails) that don't even come close
Bike Setup:
Z1 Xfly Cane Creek WAM's XT/XTR stuff Koski Flat Bar WTB 250 pedals Balding Giro Cow Seat WTB Motoraptor F and Tioga Factory XC R
Bottom Line:
The Truth is great. It's worth whatever you pay for it. I'd go to jail for this frame. It suprised me that it has no compromises. I get both 4" of plush travel and pedaling efficiency. It took only a little while to get used to the extra weight, coming from a hardtail. Once I started riding long distances on it, I noticed that I was much less fatigued because I stand up less, and the rear wheel seems to dig in a bit more on those dreaded steep, rocky climbs. With my old hardtail, the rear wheel spun easier. I don't know what I'll do with the old frame now. Probably hang it on my wall. I expect this is the last frame I'll ever own. Renmimbi means........Renmimbi.
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Submitted by
Craig
a
from California Date Reviewed: January 2, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Chino
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1895.00
Purchased At:
Dream Ride Moab
Strengths:
Climbing ability, downhill plushness, beautifully built (no mass produced corner cutting here), customer service
Weaknesses:
Nada
Similar Products Used:
Specialized Rockhopper
Bike Setup:
Medium Truth Frame, Marzocchi Z2 XFly, Cane Creek AD-12, Chris King Hubs and Headset, Mavic 517 Rims, XTR Brakes and Shifters, XTR Rear Derailleur, XT Front Derailleur, Easton Monkey Lite Riser Bar, Thompson Elite Stem, Race Face Next LP Crankset, Easton Seat Post, Specialized Saddle.
Bottom Line:
This bike climbs like a mountain goat. I've been able to climb hills that I never have been able to clear before. On the flats it jumps out from underneath you like a scared rabbit. It's unbelievable how good this bike feels. It took me a few rides to get used to the handling, it is very responsive. The Truth felt a bit nervous at first (or was it just me on a new bike that's worth more than my car). My old bike felt like a slug in comparison. The bike outfitted as described above weighs 24.6 pounds (on an accurate scale). It is truely beautiful!!! I set the Cane Creek AD-12 at 7 pounds over my body weight and this seems perfect for the cross country riding that I do. It is a great shock and will hold 175 psig for a month without losing a pound. No sticktion to speak of! Ellsworth Customer Service is first rate. They called me a month after I bought the frame to see how I liked it. I had a nioce chat with Cathy who seemed truly interested in how I set my bike up.
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Submitted by
David Cardosa
a Cross Country Rider
from Austin,TX Date Reviewed: January 1, 2001
Bad news first. My medium frame is almost 5.75 pounds with a Fox float R. I was really pissed due to the ads boasting a 4.9 LB weight. Im sure the ad is for a small but a medium should not be more than 5.25 pounds at most. My Turner is only 6 pounds and is a 97'. This is Marketing BullDung at its worst. So much for my complaining. Good news. The bike is really great. I have it set up Racer Boy style, 3in fork, low flat bars, tall saddle and light skinny tires. The bike is a real joy to ride. The handeling is netural and is more forgiving than the Turner on really steep drops. The only thing I have noticed is that on really steep climbs there is a tendency for rear end to loose it. You have to make and effort to keep your weight down and back. I would have say that this is the most refined bike I have ridden to date.
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Submitted by
MIKE HEGGIE
a Racer
from BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS Date Reviewed: December 29, 2000
Favorite Trail:
KERVILLE, TEXAS
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$3025.00
Purchased At:
SPEEDGOAT
Strengths:
I READ THE REVIEWS. THOUGHT ANYONE GOOFY ENOUGH TO PAY THIS MUCH MONEY FOR A BIKE WOULD ONLY HAVE GOOD THINGS TO SAY.I HAVE NOW RIDDEN & RACED THIS THING OVER SOME VERY NASTY STUFF. IT IS ALL THAT. HOLDS LINES TRUE, ACCELERATES LIKE A HARD TAIL, SOAKS UP ROUGH STUFF WELL & IS INDESTRUCTABLE. GREAT FACTORY SUPPORT. IF YOU WANT THE BEST BIKE MONEY CAN BUY, THIS IS IT. I AM A MOTO-CROSSER. I MOUNTAIN BIKE AS A CROSS-OVER. I PUT THIS THING THROUGH HELL. IT HOLDS UP BETTER THAN MY MOTOCROSS BIKES.
ELLSWORTH TRUTH FRAME, XTR REAR, XT FRONT, FOX FLOAT REAR, MODZILLA II FRONT, TIME ATACS, XTR SHIFTERS, RPM WHEELS, KENDA KARISMA TIRES, XTR BRAKES, SELLE ITALIA FLITE GELL SADDLE
Bottom Line:
THIS IS THE BEST BIKE I HAVE EVER HAD BETWEEN MY LEGS. IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO THROW DOWN ALOT OF CASH, THIS IS THE BIKE FOR YOU. IT DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH TRAVEL FOR THE NORTH SHORE STUFF, BUT WHAT DOES? IT WILL TAKE 8' DROPS WITH EASE.
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Submitted by
Liam Magee
a
from West Burton, Sussex, UK Date Reviewed: December 28, 2000
Santa Cruz Superlight, Heckler, Heckler X, Marin FS bikes, Scott Intoxica, Specialized FSR
Bike Setup:
Rockshox SID XC 2001 front suspension, Stratos Rear suspension, XT full groupset inc. XT disc brakes front & rear, Chris King Headset, Shimano SPDs, Carbon MonkeyLite Bar, Yeti Grips, WTB SSTX seat, Thomson seatpost, Mavic X wheels, etc.
Bottom Line:
Having previously ridden a Scott team racing ltd. front susser I was somewhat loathe to upgrade to an FS bike -too heavy and was it really necessary ? After reading numerous reviews it seemed to me that maybe an FS bike would offer me greater control on those technical descents and difficult XC routes where I had to back off a bit with my Scott to avoid a crash. Initially most of the bikes I rode seemed to heavy or too setup for a compromise between freeriding and downhill. Other bikes seemed to lean towards being a XC Racer with a FS setup (e.g. the Specialized FSR bikes),they were light and quick but not necessarily robust enough for a bit of freeriding.
I wanted something that I could thrash cross country at a decent speed in reasonable comfort and that was going to open up my descents to a new level, with the option for a bit of a play in the woods. With the lightness of the build and the beautiful handling of the frame married to a decent set of components (personal taste the above !) this bike has not disappointed. I read the earlier reviews on this site before trying -once I tried I bought. As an excellent all-round bike (except perhaps serious downhilling) this bike has few peers. Buy one and I doubt you will be disappointed...
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Robert Baird
a
from Austin,Texas Date Reviewed: December 27, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Slick Rock
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$4300.00
Purchased At:
http://mountain.bikeco.com/
Strengths:
Life time warrenty, very stiff, attention detail.
Weaknesses:
none yet.
Similar Products Used:
Aeon ISIS SL, DB, Proflex, Intense
Bike Setup:
Whitebrothers 2001 ATX-4,rear shock-fox race SL, blue raceface cranks/ ti BB, black King Headset/hubs w/ black Mavic 519s, XTR shift/brake titec 135mm w/ 10' rise, titec bars 22", Dean seatpost, blue Flite ti gell
Bottom Line:
I have raced a Kona HeiHei for 7 years, broke it in 1997, got new one still own it. All XTR, w/ raceface cranks, mavic 517s. Good solid lite racer. The Ellsworth handles better and is even stiffer. I bought this as a freeride bike. Now after ridding it, I am definatley going to race it. This thing is scary fast.
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Submitted by
John Moorhouse
a Racer
from Orlando Florida Date Reviewed: December 17, 2000
Favorite Trail:
1996 Olympic Mtn Bike Course at Conyers Georgia (24hrs solo)
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
-very lightweight -lateral stiffness -active, long travel suspension -neutral suspension in EVERY gear -reliability/durability -personalized customer service
Weaknesses:
can't find any yet!!
Similar Products Used:
Just about every full suspension bike out there
Have owned 3 Santa Cruz Hecklers and 1 Superlight
Bike Setup:
-Green 2001 Ellsworth Truth ICT frame w/c Cane Creek AD10 shock -heavily modified 1998 Marzocchi Bomber Z1 Fork (100mm travel) -LX/XT/XTR drivetrain -Race Lite wheels -Paul V brake calipers -Syncros Ti seatpost -Various Continental tires depending on trail conditions -King headset -XTR shift/brake levers
Bottom Line:
I have done three 24-hour and one 12-Hour solo races on this frame since purchasing it last August. It has carried me into the top 10 three times---twice to the podium with a 1st and a 3rd place.
I generally log more miles in a single race than most riders will do in an entire season. I have torture-tested the Ellsworth in the most extreme conditions, and it has proven to be one of the lightest and most reliable bikes out there. Not many bikes can lay down this claim. Period. I have had ZERO problems with it, and really have'nt had to do hardly any maintenance to it. Simple oil changes to the fork, and cable/housing replacements---THAT'S IT. The frame is as laterally stiff as ANY hardtail out there, and is almost as plush as some downhill sleds with nearly twice the wheel travel, and twice the weight. The bike SCREAMS downhill, and can climb with the best of them. The Ellsworth also exhibits a level craftsmanship and attention to detail that is IMPOSSIBLE to incorporate into a big-brand mass produced bike.
If you live to ride, and want the utmost in cross-country performance in a bike that will last you for YEARS to come look no furthur. GET ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is one frame that will never be outdated.
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Submitted by
John M
a Cross Country Rider
from North Andover Date Reviewed: December 17, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Mt Snow, VT
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1900.00
Purchased At:
airbomb.com
Strengths:
Excellent cornering because frame is very rigid. The rear stays adhere to trail on bumpy downhills and climbing
Weaknesses:
Those squeeky pivots and the $75 rebuild kit after one year. Anodized finish is pretty but scratches and rubs off easy. Chain suck can be an occasional nightmare, but not as bad as other bikes.
This bike corners perfectly and hugs the trail. It's light and has good accelleration, the suspension linkage really works as advertised. Just keep up with the pivot's maintenance so they do not squeek. (check out: http://www.bikeskills.com/ellspivots.htm)
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Submitted by
Scott
a Racer
from Phoenix Date Reviewed: December 14, 2000
18" frame, 2000 Mars 1 fork, Cane Creek AD12 shock, Cane Creek Wam Ti wheels, Easton straight carbon bar and post, 120mm x 12° Ti stem, Avid Single Dig. Mag brakes, XTR shifters and deraillers, LX crank, frog pedals, Flite saddle with Ti rails, Panaracer Fire XC pro tires, Serfas grips.
Bottom Line:
The bike is 3lbs lighter than my old Proflex. It climbs technical trails much better than the Proflex due to the smooth, long travel and sweet geometry. There is no noticeable brake or pedal induced bobbing. I bought the bike to race, but it is great for normal trail riding where I usually let a little air out of the fork and shock. The geometry is perfect for me at 5'11".
The bike is great - highly recommended for any type of riding. I haven't ridden too many other bikes, but this one is a lot better than my old Proflex's in every type of riding condition.
I didn't weigh the frame, which is supposed to be 5lb, but my bike weighs 24.3lb. It could be lighter with some of the new light weight tires, but I like the traction, durability, and reliability of the Fire XC Pros.
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Submitted by
Bob
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego CA Date Reviewed: November 27, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Daily Ranch
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$4000.00
Strengths:
Every ride this thing becomes more a part of you. The downhill ride is plush
Weaknesses:
price
Similar Products Used:
Raven
Bike Setup:
raceface crank, xtr, z1 x-fly fork with a cane creek back shock, Gremica disk breaks, Monkey lite handlebars, 858's.
Bottom Line:
This bike is outstanding! I rode a raven for 3 years and felt that it was holding me back from the next level of riding. The Ellsworth has 4" of travel (front and back) and becomes part of you as you ride. No pogo up hill and it's downhill is as sweet as you can get. Without a doubt, it is the finest bike on the market.
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Submitted by
Scott
a Downhiller
from Las Vegas, Nevada Date Reviewed: November 24, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Gooseberry Mesa, Utah
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Bicycle Studio in Las Vegas
Strengths:
Everything! Light, strong, BEST suspension design on the planet. Form follows function, and the form is beautiful. The bike climbs like a dream, decends excellently, and is very plush with NO pedal induced bobbing. This is the best suspension frame available!!
Weaknesses:
Not a one!
Similar Products Used:
Many other high end brands. I work at a bike shop so I can choose!
Bike Setup:
Manitou X-Vert Air forks, Hayes disk brakes, etc. . .
Bottom Line:
After having the chance to ride many bikes out on the trails (not just around the parking lot) I chose the Ellsworth Truth. You can build this frame into an ultralite XC bike, or into a rough terrain XC/Freeride bike as I have with a 105mm travel fork and disk brakes.
This is the BEST suspension frame!!
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Forrest Arakawa
a Downhiller
from Oakland Date Reviewed: November 13, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Palos
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Super stiff rocker and rear triangle assembly. Very light. Every part is machined to perfection. Great for climbing or descending. Cartidge bearings eliminate any sound from the pivot points. This linkage provides only the most plush ride available. New rocker length seems to give it more travel than before.
Weaknesses:
None...
Similar Products Used:
Gt LTS, Santa Cruz Heckler, Ventana El Salt
Bike Setup:
Rolf Urraco Disc Wheelset, Race Face Turbine LP, Marzocchi Z1 CR, XTR cassette, Azonic Shorty Deluxe, WTB 2.4 Moto Raptors, Thompson post, WTB Speed V seat, Ellsworth Skewers, Salsa Collar, Azonic double wall 2.5 inch riser, 545 pedals, xt bb, Dura ace chain and Yeti grips!!!
Bottom Line:
If you want a really plush ride look no further... I had doubts about this frame being stiff and strong enough for the terrain around here, those doubts are all gone... I set this bike up for Descending but it climbs like no other.. I've taken it off some really large drops and doubles without a problem. It sucks up the bumps like a vacuum. Mine weighs in at about 30 lbs.. I like it heavy, DH tires and tubes!! This is the best 4in bike I've ever had the chance to ride!! All my friends are buying them!! If you are looking for a killer Freeride/cross country bike this is it....
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Submitted by
Tim
a Cross Country Rider
from Washington Date Reviewed: November 2, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
dreamride
Strengths:
Build quality, weight, suspension design/action
Weaknesses:
None so far!
Similar Products Used:
Specialized, Gary Fisher
Bike Setup:
Full XTR, Sun Rhino Lite, Thompson, Race Face, Manitou Xvert Super, Stratos Expert
Bottom Line:
The bike is very responsive during climbs as well as flat single tracks. Having 4 plus inches of travel lets you set the shock to handle the small stuff, but not bottom out on the jumps, logs, etc. Even in the small chainring, pedaling produces no bob action. In addition, I have not noticed any brake induced stiction in the rear suspension. The geometry is well suited for cross country and free riding. The bike can be built super light for racing (25 lbs)or built to handle free ride punishment (26 -27 lbs). My bike with a large frame is 26.5 lbs ready to ride. By far the best bike I have owned or ridden.
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Submitted by
jl
a Cross Country Rider
from carbondale,co Date Reviewed: October 22, 2000
Favorite Trail:
yeah,sure
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Purchased At:
timberline bike tours aspen,co
Strengths:
function, efficiency, reliability, the other guy doesn't have one (yet)
Weaknesses:
price a little dear on a bike guide's salary
Similar Products Used:
none are similar
Bike Setup:
white 92-ul,racelites,sweetwings,avid,xtr
Bottom Line:
I've been reading lately where some dilettantes have been whining about the stickers on their Ellsworths.(there, there Pooky new frames are laser etched) As a professional mtb guide in the central Colorado Rockies my priorities are all day comfort/performance and stone-axe reliability. The Truth has delivered all that and more. Aside from the constant struggle to keep the sweetwings turning and the fork pumping(not really worth it) the bike has exceeded my expectations. My bike will see 2500-3000 miles per season in whatever weather the mountains have planned. We don't stay in because it is going to rain/snow/suck all week, we go riding, and the bike sits out at night @ 11,000'.( Don't worry the Guests sleep warm and dry.) In the morning the Guide bike is lucky if a tool or chain lube might pass by in close proximity. (Your bike will be carefully fed and watered) we liked the bikes so much we started selling them and now all our full-time Guides are riding Ellsworths. They go fast,they save your energy for answering all those questions (where do you people come up with that stuff anyway?) and the other guy doesn't have one(yet).
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Submitted by
Troy
a Cross Country Rider
from Brentwood, CA, USA Date Reviewed: October 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Black Diamond Mines
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Purchased At:
Kalo Mountain Cycles
Strengths:
This ride is DREAMY...The Ellsworth jumps out at you and says "WHO LET THE DOGS OUT....Whoof...Whoof..Whoof", Before I even rode jumped on this bike it looked like a piece of art. Tony Ellsworth has listened to customers - Don't like the cheap ELLSWORTH stickers...no prob. this years 2001 has..get this..Lazer etched letters...awsome. The new sealed bearings and classic Ellsworth quality stands through and through. And guess what...that's right..lifetime Warranty. Thrash it, slam it, dunk it, Ellsworth quality laughs for more. This bike climbs like a goat, fast, light, puts a smile on your face 24/7 .
Weaknesses:
Kinda pricey...the wife damn near left me over this one, however now she wants one....ught oh....
Similar Products Used:
Everything...GT,Specialized, Gary fisher, cannondale, etc
Bike Setup:
Black frame, Hot red wheels, xt shifters, hope disc brakes,Cane Creek Head, thomson seat post, race face cranks, marz xfly fork, AD10 shock.
Bottom Line:
Ellsworth has taken the front line customer approach. They take comments to heart and will make a change if needed..sometimes just for you. Ellsworth provides world class customer service and there bikes are not just something to ride but a lifetime of enjoyment that is backed up by a fantastic warranty. It is obvious that Ellsworth has listened to it's customers and I thank those previous customers as my bike has several improvements because of their comments. ** On a side note ** www.kalomtb.com is a good source for Ellsworth bikes. Bret at Kalo did an awsome job and my bike started turning heads within 5 seconds that I exited the shop. Kalo may not be the fastest bike builder around, but the final product is well worth the wait. ( Thanks Bret...sorry if I bugged you by hanging out at the shop almost every day :) By the way, check the web site..they have an expert bike tester as well (Casey).
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Submitted by
Alex T
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego CA Date Reviewed: October 4, 2000
Favorite Trail:
dirt
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Mission Cyclery
Strengths:
This is a 2001 model: performance, weight, workmanship, looks, support.
Weaknesses:
I would have to say the stickers look like they might not last
Similar Products Used:
Y33 FSR
Bike Setup:
All the "chi chi" stuff
Bottom Line:
This bike is quick, you step on the pedals and away you go. It comes up to speed on down hills before you know it. Snappy handling, climbs really well. The stickers do look like they are the weak point, but the newer 2001 have laser etched graphics. This bike will give you the chance to be faster. The support is great.Every email is answered in a timely manner. I got a personal call from Ellsworth welcoming me to the family and asking if there any thing I needed. These aren't cheap, but i feel the bike is well worth the extra money. Try one if you can .
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Submitted by
john tomljenovic
a Racer
from illinois Date Reviewed: September 25, 2000
Favorite Trail:
anything in b.c.
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
stiff,light,build quality.
Weaknesses:
frame graphics(age quickly),price(only because of former)ellsworth specs are not entirely accurate(the run big, I normally ride a 19" hard tail the 18" truth fit me well
Similar Products Used:
GT LTS, Sugar, FSR, assorted hardtails and downhill bikes.
Bike Setup:
medium truth in red, AD10, SIDxc, full XTR, king hubs and headset, mavic 618, a shade under 25#
Bottom Line:
I have ridden this bike for this summer but have had the frame about a year, getting one of the first 2000 models. I was having knee sugery and so it sat for a while, this is called a double whammy. But now I have had the time to beat it around a bit, do some racing(even a 12 hour!) etc, etc... So here is my attempt at an objective review. First a flame, WHAT is up with the stickers that come on this frame, were they made up at a Kinkos or something? Peeling and scrapes show up immediatly and my bike after one season of part time riding looks aged. Yes I know these are just frame stickers but they do not belong on a $2000 product, laser etching would be optimal, a more durable lettering material at least. otherwise you have an exceptional piece. The frame I recieved was a darker than normal red(I only say normal from the other truths I have seen) more like a wine color, but that is the nature of annodizing, being very hard to get consistant results between batches. It actually looks real smooth and is a cool color. The construction was first rate and alighnment spot on. You realize how poorly done big name bikes are made after you see what the ellsworth can achieve. mine came with the cane creek shock and I found it OK, the ranges of adjustment are minimal and the air dampening is inconsistant or at least feels that way. there feels to be some stiction even being an airshock, the plus is that it won't leak. The rear triangle is the heart of the truth and it's best asset. What I was looking for was rigidity and ample tire clearance for the mud and leaves we get in the fall. The ellsworth delivers. The performance can best be described as very, very, very good. it stiffens up in granny gear, gets active in the middle ring, and only starts to bob some when in the big ring (but at that point it doesn't much matter). this inconsistency is really quite useful since your able to adjust for and the pattern suits the sitituations you will find yourself in. but ride height is critical, have too much sag and it will climb like a pig, too little and you'll swear you don't have suspension. I reserved excellent only because there is some stiction which makes it slow to respond on sharp edged bumps, this is due to the air shock and the use of bushings in the pivots. about those pivots, I first had some reservations about ellsworth not using bearings with past experience on the GT LTS, afraid my overpriced bike would become a squeaky mess, and in fact developed some noise after a couple of rides in the mud, but this was mostly due to light lubing from the factory and not the bushings nessesarely, after a clean and relube there has not been a peep since. And that has been after riding in the rain, a 12hour, and the Chquamegon 40(sand). Reliability is hovering on flawless. I do recomend anyone getting this frame to lube the pivots before you ride it, but one caution:DO NOT USE GREASE THAT CONTAINS TEFLON,this is advice from ellsworth. Your bushings can degrade and you will have squeaks in stereo. I forgot what the factory said to use. you can call them to find out, I just ended up using a thick wheel bearing grease that was teflon free(just read the ingredients) and had success. The handling is not on par with my old yeti ARC in tight singletrack but in any kind of fast sweeper watch out. Cornering is much dependent on the fork you run, I will reiterate a previous post, avoid a 4" travel fork, or a whitebros. 92ul. That is the fork I got originally for the bike since it was recomended for this frame and was nice and stiff for my 200 pound ass. this fork is too tall, slackening the head angle, and providing wheelbarrow like handling, a swap to an 80mm rockshox gave an inch less overall hieght and saved me from hating my bike. Of all the things I picked at this is still the best full suspension bike I have ridden. I'll have to give it a four, losing one for the decals.
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Submitted by
Steve Agronick
a Racer
from Pleasantville,NY 10570 Date Reviewed: August 21, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Ringwood
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$2600.00
Purchased At:
ET/Cycle Center Croton NY
Strengths:
Light, eye candy, the handling is a 10 second best felling I ever had.
Weaknesses:
None, honest
Similar Products Used:
Razor Back, Sugar 1
Bike Setup:
Truth SE "2001" Race Face Next LP Chanks and rings and Ti bb bracket, Girvin pedals, SRAM 9/speed drivtrain, Race Lite Wheels, Syncros Ti seat post, Flite carbon rail saddle, Eastern CT2 bars, Race Face head set, Avid Mag Lite brakes and levers, Panaracer Green lites tubes. XTR 34X12 Cass.Rock Shock Sid,SL Ti Tec Ti stem.
Bottom Line:
This bike in race trim weighs just under 23.5 lbs "honest" and will soon be lighter with some euro carbon goodies I have coming.Over the last 5 years I have the privilege to ride some of the finest full susp. bike made, and every year I say they cant get better, I rode a Razor Back "sweet" then a new Sugar 1 "way sweet" now the new Truth Se this is cheating "rock gardens" just sit and pedal through, down hill what down hill. You press the pedals and it feels like a gas pedal!!! You know you trai and train and always look for a little edge , well now I have a larger edge, I have gone to the next level, bikes do and can make a difference. You owe it to yourself to a least take a ride on the new Truth. You hard tail guys try it.This may be all you need to switch.I rode this bike on some of worst rock gardens, roots you will ever see "no problem"
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Ed Mago
a Racer
from NJ Date Reviewed: August 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Pick one
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Craftsmanship is incredible,The frame is a piece of art.Can climb and descend better than any other XC FS bike IMHO. I have taken this bike DH'ing before I got my Joker and it took everything I threw at it. Customer service is great. Warranty is great.Need I say more?
Weaknesses:
Yeah, right!!!!!
Similar Products Used:
Mantra(hahaha), Joker(sweeeeeet)
Bike Setup:
Z1, Helix Expert, Race Face and XTR everything else.
Bottom Line:
This bike is well worth the price tag. LIFETIME WARRANTY!!GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE!!Incredible performance. Amazingly beautiful frame.If you buy a Truth odds are that you will never buy another XC FS bike in your life.Get on one and see.
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Wayne Gilbert
a
from Vienna, Va USA Date Reviewed: August 3, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Close or far? Anything with some tech and roll
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
It does everything. Lightening fasts down hills. Long up hills. Killamonjaro drop offs. Carves up the twisties.
Weaknesses:
If you have this bike and dont ride it....you look like a "got have it for show" fool. Lock up this bike if its more then 10 feet from you.
Similar Products Used:
Pro-Flex 857. Hey I bought it when I first got into the biz! Lay off.
Bike Setup:
Ellsworth Truth 2001 Manitou X-Vert Super with heavier springs. Shimano XTR front and rear der's Shimano XTR shifters Hayes Disc Brakes KING threadless headset Shimano XTR BB Shimano XTR crankset/rings Chirs King hubs Mavic X517 Citron rims DT Double Butted Black Spokes Raceface stem Easton carbon seatpost Easton carbon bar Oury Grips Saddle Titec DH Kti Shimano XTR cassette WTB Velociraptor Tires
Bottom Line:
If you have the money you cant buy a better bike. This is the one that everyone who knows what they are talking about wants. With all above parts my bike (I am 6'2 and 230 lbs) comes to a hair under 25.5 lbs This bike is simply the best and I find it hard to believe that this bike can be improved on…. unless they come out with and even more super strong and light metal or material. When I first rode this bike with the above setup it was a bit awkward due to the fact that Id been riding a Pro-flex 857. Because of this I took a step mountain corner a bit to fast and wide and went over a 10 foot 60 degree drop off with a ditch at the end. Hehe I thought I was going to get another knock on the ol noggin. But this damn bike soaked almost the whole damn mistake and I was left at the bottom with a huge grin on my face. Schweeeeet ! Buy one if you have the cash. Do it you will not be sorry. Who shouldn’t buy….Low budget people; daddy is going to buy it for me people (yes we know who you are. Well never let it go), comatose people. Who should buy… Want a bike I can punish people; I haven’t found the perfect bike yet people; I just won a million bucks and I love to ride people.
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Steve Krzanowski
a Cross Country Rider
from Nutley, NJ, USA Date Reviewed: August 1, 2000
Favorite Trail:
The Tourne
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Quality craftsmanship, detail, materials used
Weaknesses:
Price
Similar Products Used:
Nothing could compare
Bike Setup:
Race Face, Mavic, Titec, Shimano, Stratos, Rock Shox, SRAM
Bottom Line:
Ellsworth “Truth”…… the Harley-Davidson of Mountain Bikes
Most mountain bike reviews start out with telling everyone what’s the hot new trend in the mountain bike industry and this bike or that bike is setting the trend. This review is different. This one starts inside the mind of the owner of our test bike…..the Ellsworth “Truth”.
A Whisper of “Truth”
The “Truth” tested here is a black Easton aluminum frame built up with an array of chi-chi parts: Race Face, Shimano, Rock Shox, Sram, Mavic, Stratos, Titec, but we’ll get to the details later. Ready to ride??
More “Truth”
A strange rush of excitement starts to build up inside as the “Truth” is mounted in the bike rack, displayed proudly (and safely up top) on the way to the trail. One last check of the rack’s locking system and we’re off working our way into traffic.
Looking around, we notice people in the other cars around us staring up at the roof rack. Some are staring up with a look of curiosity. Others, with bike racks attached, seem to look on with great admiration. Or could it be envy? Hmm, is this what Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper felt like in Easy Rider as people eyed up their bikes as they passed?
The Ridden “Truth”
Finally we arrive at the trailhead, unload the “Truth”, accompanied by more curious stares, gear up and hit the trail. We proceed to tear up some rock and root infested New Jersey singletrack with ease. The “Truth” corners hard and true, never losing its line. Drop-offs? No Problem! When it came to hills, we climbed and we conquered. Our reward? Super-sweet, super-fast downhill descents launched with the greatest of confidence.
Throughout our two-plus hour jaunt, the only “problem” we encountered, and we definitely wouldn’t even call it a problem, was stopping to talk to curious riders who want to check out the “Truth”. We often overhead “Wow! Look, it’s an Ellsworth!” or “check out that frame!” It sounded like successful advertising through good old-fashioned craftsmanship to us. Now We’m feeling a lot like Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper! Thank you Mr. Tony Ellsworth!!
We finished up the rest of our ride, racked up the bike, dusted off and then headed for home.
The Whole “Truth”
The heart of the “Truth” is an Easton aluminum frame. It only comes as a frame. Both triangles were expertly crafted as indicated by the welds. A superior anodized and shot-peened finish in black along with gothic-like lettering and the Ellsworth “coat of arms” on the head tube round out this awesome frame.
The bumps were handled by the Stratos AR1 shock in the rear and Rock Shox’s SID SL up front. Both ate up the big and small hits after a fairly easy dialing-in session. Shimano handled the stopping with V-Brakes, XTR style, as well as adding to the “Truth’s” powertrain with an XTR rear cassette (9-speed) and 858 pedals. SRAM 9.0 Grip Shifts and derailleurs worked us smoothly through all the gears.
Race Face, our North Shore favorite, took care of the crank set with the LP set-up, seat post with the XY0 model, titanium bottom bracket, stem, low riser bars, Good ‘N Evil grips and Race headset. These parts are tough, look good and work great. Look at any video from the North Shore and see who’s handling the tough stuff. Race Face! Enough said.
We chose to rest out rear ends on a Berserker DH KTi saddle. This is a personal preference that lets ride the day after and actually sit still at the dinner table after an epic ride. Rounding out our “Truth” is a set of Mavic Tubeless Cross Max’s with Hutchinson Python providing the bite to the trail. We never flatted and enjoyed this added level of rolling confidence when tearing down the hills.
All this adds up to a bike price well over the $3,500 dollar mark. Pricey? Yes. Worth it? Totally!!
The “Truth” Be Told
On our ride home, we not only reflected on the ride on the trail but also on the reactions of those who encountered the “Truth”. At first, it seemed just like we were riding a custom bike built up to our liking, but then the “Truth” revealed the image it conveys to the public and attaches to its rider. You and your bike are something special.
We had the unique encounter on the ride home of passing another Ellsworth owner with his “Truth” mounted atop a bike rack. Upon passing, we both gave each other the thumbs up, just like Harley riders, and went our separate ways.
So, in closing, one might ask, “ Is the Ellsworth Truth really the Harley-Davidson of Mountain Bikes?” I be willing to bet that if Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper pedaled, they would be doing it on a “Truth”. Is this bike for you? If the pockets are deep or you can appreciate building up a custom ride, this Ellsworth “Truth” is for you. As far as we go, our “ Harley” has been found. I can not lie!
“Truth”, my friends, has been told.
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Steve Gilbert
a Cross Country Rider
from Cleveland, TN USA Date Reviewed: August 1, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Tsali(NC)
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
The Truth's weight and reputation for toughness is why I purchased this bike. I have not been disappointed. I didn't realize that 3 or 4 pounds could make this much difference. And yes, it is tough. The locals trails here on Chilhowee Mtn. are very technical and rocky as were the trails in Moab where I took my Ells in May. The greatest benefit is the mental awareness that I'm on one of the best rides in the country, no more excuses, just go ride.
Weaknesses:
The loss of sleep caused by waking up through the night wondering I if locked my bike up. Hey, this ride is worth more than my truck, priorities. Also, the stares you get on the trails, few compliments, just stares.
Similar Products Used:
HARO EX 2
Bike Setup:
XTR groupo, Cane Creek AD 10 and a Marzocchi Super Fly up front.
Bottom Line:
I've never been an extravagant person but after renting and riding a Truth while in Moab in 1999 I returned home, postponed the purchase of a new truck and ordered one. Now I don't have to look at the new bike reviews and contemplate which one I might purchase, I've got what I want for a long, long time to come. I may upgrade some components along the way but I know that a better bike cannot be found and all I need to do now is concetrate on my fitness and skill. Expensive? Yes, but for the 3 years prior to purchasing my Truth I bought new bikes each year, now that's expensive.
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Kurt Gingher
a Cross Country Rider
from San Francisco, CA Date Reviewed: July 31, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Pauley Creek, Downieville, CA
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Climbs better than my Ti (Merlin) hardtail, moves through singletrack as well, and offers a responsive ride just like a very good hardtail while sucking up roots and drops with confidence.
Weaknesses:
Mucho Dinero
Similar Products Used:
Outland VPP, Specialized FSR, Santa Cruz Heckler, lots of "sweet spot" bikes, Ventana El Saltamontes, Cannondale Super Vee, and tons of others.
Bike Setup:
Chris King Hubs and Headset, Marzocchi Z-2 (80mm), Avid Arch Supreme, XTR drivetrain and shifters, Stratos Helix Expert.
Bottom Line:
It's the ONLY full-suspension bike I've ridden that's fun in the singletrack the way a good hardtail is, can outclimb a hardtail on rutty singletrack AND a fireroad, and feels responsive. All of this without any "buts". I've ridden it in 3 24 Hour races, most recently in the 24 Hours of Snowshoe (incredibly technical) and the bike just ate it up.
Whatever you do - ride one first. Resist the temptation of a 4" fork (as handling will suffer) and just make sure sag is properly set and then have more fun then possible on any other full-suspension bike. It's the Honda VFR800 of full suspension bikes.
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Steve Schlafman
a Cross Country Rider
from Salem, VA Date Reviewed: July 31, 2000
Favorite Trail:
The Beast and Snake Bite
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
What the "Truth" is: Is a well thought out design that exceeds the expectations of any mere mortal rider. From its energy efficent design (what you put in, is what you get out) to its outstanding quality and workmanship. To its true 4" of rear wheel travel, to its 5 pound weight.You can see and feel the thought process that Tony and his staff at Ellsworth have put into the "Truth". This bike climbs better than any hardtail, and cleans the most rocky technical downhills(24 Hrs of Snowshoe) with ease.
Weaknesses:
The Honey-Do List just keeps on growing and growing.
Similar Products Used:
Santa Cruz, Moots, GT LTS and numerous hardtails
Bike Setup:
XT drive train with Race Face rings and LP cranks, Avid Ultimate levers with Arch Rival 50s. Race Face low riser bar, Kore Elite stem, Thomson post, WTB saddle, Marzocchi Z2 BAM, Cane Creek AD-10, all rolling on XTR hubs laced to Bontrager Valiant rims with Michelin Wildgripper XTS tires.
Bottom Line:
The "TRUTH" does it all extremely well! Climbs, decends, carves and handles anything you can throw at it. The frame material used is the lighest and most durable on the market. The detail to quality and customer service is unsurpassed by any other company in the business. Tony and the rest of the staff at Ellsworth understand those of us that ride. Before purchasing the "Truth", I spoke with Tony about the frameset and some of its handling traits. After purchasing the Truth, Tony helped in dialing in the ride. The man himself takes the time with his customers to listen and learn from what we have to say. Awesome company, fantastic people (Mike and Cathy thanks for your support), superior design in the best XC Full Suspension bike on market. And once again after hearing from the mtn biking world, Tony developed the 2001 Truth SE with sealed bearings and an overall lighter weight frame. Check it out at www.speedgoat.com Thanks Tony for a bike that continues to set the standard for a XC Full Suspension mtn bike.
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Adrienne Nicholas
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego CA Date Reviewed: July 29, 2000
Favorite Trail:
noble canyon
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
It's light It never breaks It loves the climbs as much as descents It's the coolest bike
Weaknesses:
Very, very bad news for the golf game.
Similar Products Used:
GT RTS2, but not very similar really
Bike Setup:
Marzocchi z4 flylight air front shock; Cane Creek AD-10 rear shock; Monkey Lite low rise bar; frogs; Kris King headset; Shimano XT 9 speed cassette; everything else, XT or XTR components
Bottom Line:
This bike completely changed my attitude about riding. I was riding a bike which was too heavy, too stiff, and just not much fun. Basically, I was pestered into buying the Truth by a true believer (yeah, you; see you Tuesday!). This is the perfect "chick bike". Sorry guys. The small frame size is a perfect fit for a 'small frame', such as I am. The bike is comfortable and light, consistent, dependable, never flakes when the chips are down, has always taken good care of me. I love to climb on this bike and I think the "rear bob" I hear so much about must be a myth. As far as the descents go, what we all really live for, I have done stuff I would never have attempted on my old bike. I continue to improve and build confidence because I know I have the right equipment. And one more thing, all the attention I on this bike get doesn't hurt at all.....
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Paul
a Cross Country Rider
from San Jose Date Reviewed: July 28, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Brail
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Quality,lightweight,finish, customer service,looks. 4 inches of travel on a 5 pound frame!
Weaknesses:
Bushings............Hope Ellsworth will offer an upgrade sealed bearing kit someday very soon.
Similar Products Used:
Turner XCE , Turner Stinger, Santa Cruz Tazmon,Heckler, Superlight, Cannondale Super V 3000, Specialized FSR and lots more.
Bike Setup:
Medium Frame: Full Xtr and Race Face. Marzocchi Z2 Atom 80 with a Mountain Speed 90mm spring kit.
Bottom Line:
This bike is an extension of me. When I'm not riding, I'll go into the garage sometimes and just stare at it with a little smirk on my face. What I do is pure fast hard XC riding. My riding consists of steep fireroads and rocky technical singletrack. This bike handles it all. The climbing ability is superb. Mash on the pedals and the shock does not move. Yet still soaks up the hits with ease. The long top tube makes for a roomy cockpit and keeps the front end down on the steepest of climbs. Out of the saddle sprints? No problem hammer away with your hard tail buddies. Leave em on the climbs where they'll search for rear wheel traction, and smoke em on the descents. If I could compare this bike to any of the previous bikes that I've owned it would be the Turner XCE. The XCE was a great bike, but it's geomtry geared it towards more of a trail bike than an xc bike. I'm 5'8 and have a very long torso. The long top tube fits me perfectly. This bike corners, leans, climbs , descends, slaloms, like no other hard core xc bike on the planet.
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Jeff Throop
a Cross Country Rider
from Valley Center, Ca. Date Reviewed: July 27, 2000
Favorite Trail:
anywhere with my "Truth"
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
DESIGN, STRENGTH, WEIGHT, APPEARANCE AND CUSTOMER SERVICE.
Weaknesses:
BUYER BEWARE!!! This bike will cause you to neglect your yard, your pets and even your family!!! (unless they ride) I even had to hire a housekeeper because all I want to do is RIDE!!!
Similar Products Used:
Pro-flex 952, Pro-flex 955, GT-LTS 1
Bike Setup:
White Bros. SC90 w/air, Stratos AR-1 or Cane Creek Shock, Race Face, XTR, Bob's Wheels, Carbon Bars, Thomson Post,
Bottom Line:
This is a follow-up to my fisrt review. There is no doubt in my mind that I made an excellent choice when I chose ELLSWORTH "TRUTH". I made this choice after much research and many conversations with "TRUTH" owners. The "TRUTH" is the result of years of refinement, which indicates that it just keeps working better and better. The "TRUTH" can be built to be Sub-24 pounds without any exotic parts. The "TRUTH" is a beauty to behold.The "TRUTH" works... The "TRUTH" is the next bike you should buy!!!
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Mike Novak
a Cross Country Rider
from San Clemente, CA USA Date Reviewed: July 25, 2000
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Light Uncomplicated Retains the classic (and I'm talking the old days in Marin-type classic) frame lines Superb finishing Stiff Climbs like my beloved hardtail Rear suspension design simple enough for those of us who didn't use a helmet in the early days.
Weaknesses:
Aluminum gouges easily, but then again, so do my knees, hips and elbows Ummmm... give me a minute....
Similar Products Used:
Spent seventeen years on hardtails.
Bike Setup:
Medium frame in slimming black with a Marzocchi Z2 X Fly Bomber at the leading edge. Shimano XTR with Grip Shift. Race Face low rise bar, Avid Arches, King Headset and hubs (love that hum!), Race Face cranks, Bontrager rims with Zmax Kevlars and that Flite seat with the hole in the middle that enables me to get it up... the hills that much faster.
Bottom Line:
I'm old and worn, but I've got the monkey motion mojo shooting through my veins when I'm on this bike. Where was this frame when I was in my thirties? After all those years on hardtails ( and a lot of laughing at the suspension crowd) I've seen the light. I asked, 'What is Truth?', bought it and now I'm a panther in the singletrack jungle. A whisperjet through the clouds. Smooth as silk. A fifty year old geezer who's found the mountain of youth. Do yourself a favor and try this bike. Believe it!
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Micheal Case
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego Date Reviewed: July 25, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Lake Hodges
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
This is the best bike I've ever rode period. When I set out to buy a new bike, I was looking in the $2,000 range. I test rode the Truth, and fell in love with it. But I wasn't sure it was worth the extra money. Then I started riding it real hard, my averge time went way up. I started climbing and descending better. Absolutely no pedal bob, rides like a dream over big and small bumps. I would recomend this bike to anyone. I even let a friend ride it for a day and now he's selling his Intense, and buying a Truth.
Weaknesses:
I can't find one, believe me I've tried.
Similar Products Used:
FSR XC PRO, Intense, Raven
Bike Setup:
Grey Anodized frame, Cane Creek AD-10, Marzocchi Z2X Fly, XTR Componets, Race Face stem & seatpost, Chris King Headset,Monkey Lite Low Bar, Spox Wheelset, Fire XC Pro Tires
Bottom Line:
Excellent workmenship, nice finish, super light weight, great customer service. Thanks Abe, for taking the time to answer all my questions.
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Dave Wilhelmy
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego, CA Date Reviewed: July 24, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Lake Morena
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Strengths:
Incredibly light weight Plenty of travel Great climbing behavior How many other aluminum FS bikes have a lifetime warranty? Great customer service Looks cool
Weaknesses:
Golly, the new ones are a bit pricey (but see the warranty comment above)! Frames are made in small lots, so if your timing's off, you could wait a bit for the frame (though it's worth the wait).
This is a follow-up, since I've had a Truth since 1996.
Three word review: I love this bike.
Longer review: In the last few years, My original setup was a $1,400 small, small-tubed, powdercoated 1996 frame that was built up with a Fox Vanilla rear to under 24 pounds. When a crack appeared in the front triangle in late May of 1999, they sent me one of the new $2,000 Easton Ultralite shotpeened, oversized, ovalized, anodized front triangles in July for $150. Not too shabby. They've also been very forthcoming with over-the-phone technical advice, and parts at races.
At the same time I upgraded the old Fox coilover rear to an AD-10, which I now prefer and which can be set up surprisingly plush on this frame. The rear triangle is still going strong after all these years.
Truth frames are amazingly forgiving and can be set up just about any way you want: Wanna ultralight XC racer? No prob, the bike can be built to sub-24 pound specs without breaking a sweat (or what's left of your wallet). Guess what? It'll still descend well. Want something more free-ridey? Throw a 100mm fork, dual discs and an RCR coilover on and go for it. Guess what? You can still climb on the thing.
The pivots on the '96 squeaked eventually (El Niño had something to do with that, along with my lack of maintenance knowledge), but the "new" pivot setup I've used for the last year has been flawless with only the occasional drizzle of Boeshield. The Boeshield is so pernicious, you dont even have to pull anything apart to lube the bushings. However, if you do have/want to take the bike apart, it's pretty easy.
My ravings about the bike over the years have caused two of my friends (and I dont know how many acquaintences) to buy Ellsworths, and they are very happy with theirs as well. ... Guess I've raved enough for today :-D
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dan plumtree
a Cross Country Rider
from calgary Date Reviewed: July 24, 2000
Favorite Trail:
anywhere in Fernie
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
how can i justify the strenghts of this bicycle in words. there are not enough adjectives to discribe the joys that the Truth bring to my bicycle rides. but here goes:Climbing this bike give me more power and control over the rooty trails we have here in western canada, desending, this bike is like riding my dads lazyboy down the trail. and snaking throught twisty singletrack i have never gone faster,higher,stronger( i hope i don't get sued) than ever before.
Weaknesses:
no place to put the beer and chips on the way down!
the bottomline is that i have never riddden a better bike in my 12 years of mtb riding. i have never seen such amazing customer support than at this company( have you ever been called by the company just to see if you got your bike setup o.k.). If you have ridden a hardtail all your mtb life and are starting to lean toward a full suspension, this is the bike to buy. you hardly notice that you are suspended on any ride, untill the end when you notice that you are less tired and ready to do it again.
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Scott Balay
a Weekend Warrior
from Bethesda, MD 20815 Date Reviewed: July 23, 2000
Favorite Trail:
anything in Tucson, AZ
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
People have said it before, no bob on the climbs. All kinds of traction on the climbs also. Weight is also better than many other dualies, better than any others that perform 75% as well. Cusotmer serivce is absolutley the best.
Weaknesses:
Cost is the main one, the other is questions from everyone that sees it.
Similar Products Used:
FSR, Mantra, Super V, Kona, Rocky Mountain all tested
Bike Setup:
Z1 Xfly, XTR, Avid Mag, RaceFace, Cane Creek AD10
Bottom Line:
Customer Service solved my minor problem with original shock that came with the bike (not their fault, and they did more than they had too). I tried all of the above bikes, and came back to the Truth which I had test ridden a friend's (thanks Dan). I have ridden the bike in Tucson and around the DC metro area, and handles better than anything else than I have had the pleasure of throwing a leg over. The longish wheelbase scared me at first, but only took five minutes to get used to. It definitely makes a person more popular when it shows up to the trail head. If you can sell the other bikes, car, and shack, buy this bike. Be wary if you have a significant other, they will become jealous, and they won't want to part with the cash. If this is your first dual suspension, or your tenth, you will not be disappointed. The only reason for the 4 chilis on the value is that I had to get a new job to pay for it.
$ 1995.00
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