Submitted by
mudmunky
a Weekend Warrior
from Houston, TX, USA Date Reviewed: July 2, 2009
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Purchased At:
Competitive Cyclist
Strengths:
Versatile, it can be a light trail bike or a burly all mountain machine. Price.
Weaknesses:
Weight, only because I went with a lower end build kit.
Similar Products Used:
Hardtails.
Bike Setup:
2009, DHX 5.0 rear, RS Recon 351 solo air, xt rear der, LX front der, Avid Elixir R 180mm, 2.1 Kenda Nev DTCs.
Bottom Line:
AMAZING bike for my first full suspension ride. I really thought I was buying too much bike for Houston trails, but I have been very pleased with my performance. I find myself riding for 4 hours at a time and not tiring. Maybe I am having too much fun and I just dont notice any fatigue. I have some parts to upgrade, fork, crank, handlebars, seatpost. But I couldn't be happier with the performance I get and the price I paid. I have never noticed any pedal bob while climbing. The rest of the reviews really helped me make my mind up. Thanks fellow Heckler owners for the great advice!!!
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Submitted by
fredjjjj
a Cross Country Rider
from North Vancouver, BC, Canada Date Reviewed: June 26, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Upper/LowerDeath+Gnarly
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
Used, 1 Yr old
Strengths:
Unbelievably light all mountain bike. Anodized frame
resists cable rub.
Weaknesses:
Size Large wheelbase and cockpit length a bit short
for 6' rider, but size XL seat tube a bit too high.
Similar Products Used:
Specialized S-Works Stumpjumper, and Enduro.
Bike Setup:
Stock 2008 Heckler in anodized silver with RP23 and TALAS.
140 mm travel, all XTR. Added Rase seatpost and changed
DT Swiss 4.2 wheels to XTR.
Bottom Line:
Couldn't believe advertised weight of 26.5 lbs, so had to confirm with my own scale.
Added Rase seatpost (fantastic!) and Specialized Eskar
tires, so now it's 28 lbs.
Propedal lockouts work great; manual control is often better
than Specialized Brain(Stumpjumper).
Suspensions need to be set to lower pressure than spec'ed for
softer downhill ride.
Great bike for 'mostly X-country', all mountain riding!
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Submitted by
123ski
a Cross Country Rider
from Salt Lake City, UT Date Reviewed: May 29, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Bobs Basin
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
HucknRoll.com
Strengths:
This bike literally is made to do it all. Sure you might not want to hit the biggest downhill course on it, or climb 5000 feet in a day, but other than that, this is a true ALL mountain bike.
Coming from a hard tail, this bike is a huge change up to the norm for me. It soaks up parts of trails that I used to have to pick around and through. It climb like a champ (granted, not as well as a hard tail) but you barely notice the 6 inches of travel while climbing, let alone any travel at all. I have to be on a really really steep hill pedaling very hard to even notice pedal bobbing at all.
I have ridden a few mini-downhill courses on the bike. I haven't dropped anything over 2-3 feet high, as I am just getting used to the bike, but it soaks up small drops and jumps really well...to the point that sometimes if you didn't know better you might not even think you left the ground. The rear shock on this bike is the Fox Float R so it always has pro-pedal turned on. This means that the first few inches of travel are very stiff, but once you break through that threshold you can definitely feel the shock in action. I might eventually upgrade to an RP23 or DHX shock just so I have more options on turning the pro-pedal on and off, but for now the Float R is doing quite well.
I am 5'10" and went with a medium. About half the people I asked said I should go with a large and the other half said I should go with a medium. I measured and measured and finally decided to go with the medium. It does feel slightly cramped on the climb, but nothing so severe that I am not getting used to it. The smaller frame size does help in riding a little more FR on the way down.
Like other reviewers have said, I had to tighten the cables after a few days of riding in order to get the Front Derailleur to shift properly. Not a big deal. I have no complaints about this bike thus far. Granted, I am not the best biker in the world, but I am progressing fast and this bike has helped me immensely to be more aggressive. If I add any upgrades or find anything I don't like (not likely) I will be sure to update this review. For now, this is the best bike I could ever recommend.
Weaknesses:
none
Bike Setup:
R AM
Bottom Line:
AWESOME DO EVERYTHING BIKE FOR ALMOST ANYONE
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Submitted by
leo_s
a Cross Country Rider
from denver Date Reviewed: May 15, 2009
Favorite Trail:
buff creek
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
slightly used
Strengths:
strong as an ox. doesn't sound like it's gonna shatter when the going gets really rough. climbs great, descends like a mad man. great fit (I have L frame; am 5'10, 31" inseam).
Weaknesses:
Heavy. Will have to spend a lot more to lighten it up. But it least it can be lightened up.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Sram x-9 shifer/rear derail, XTR front derail, Fox RLC 125 fork, Fox Float R ProPedal rear shock, Onyx rear disc hub/Ringle front disc hub w DT Swiss EX 5.10 hoops. Intense StickyRubber tires.
Bottom Line:
Bike is ferocious. Uphill it can climb practically anything I put in front of it. Head tube angle isn't too slack or too steep. ProPedal elevates any single pivot bike and this is no different. Downhill I can honestly say I've never been passed up. I'm always yelling 'trail.' Bike loves to carve around the turns, descend and own big nasty rocks; drop-offs. Great trail bike. A bit heavy so it only gets 4 chilis on overall rating. BUY this bike.
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Submitted by
Treens
a Cross Country Rider
from Marquette, MI Date Reviewed: April 27, 2009
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Purchased At:
DWS
Strengths:
Bottomless 5incher. Makes you a better rider.
Weaknesses:
Bottle opener not accessible while riding the bike
Bike Setup:
This review is of an 04 Heckler. 5th element shock. Maverick fork. King, Stylo, Hugi, x9, brass nipples
Bottom Line:
So basically 90% of all mountain bikers should own this bike. Here is how you know if you fit into this 90% category. (A) You dont wear chest armour when you ride and (B) you dont wear a lycra bib when you ride. Any all- mountain riding fun seeking earn-your-turns rider should own a Santa Cruz Heckler. I rode this bike for 4 years and resisted getting a new bike because that would mean getting a different bike. Buy this bike homie. Do it now.
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Submitted by
Georgia Rider
a Cross Country Rider
from Canton, GA Date Reviewed: March 19, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Bear Creek - Pinhoti 1 & 2
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1280.00
Purchased At:
Frame only at Alpha
Strengths:
This is my first do it all bike and it does just that. Excellent in rough technical sections and is smooth downhill
Weaknesses:
tight cockpit, standing and pedaling long is very difficult.
Bike Setup:
Orange 08 Santa Cruz Heckler
XTR Crank, XTR Shifter Pods, XTR Front and Rear Derailler, Fox Float 32 RLC, Fox RP23 shock, Mavic x717 Rims, DT Swiss 240 Hubs, Juicy Carbon brakes, Easton Monkey Lite Bar, Chris King Headset, Thompson Elite Seatpost, Kenda Nevgal 2.35
Bottom Line:
This bike has improved my confidence and has certainly bailed me out on many occasions. If you want a do it all bike look no further, unless you want to spend a bit more then look to the Nomad. :-)
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Submitted by
Wyo
a Cross Country Rider
from Lander, WY Date Reviewed: February 22, 2009
Favorite Trail:
401 Crested Butte
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1800.00
Strengths:
Solid, simplistic bike that I adore
Weaknesses:
Avid brakes
Similar Products Used:
Rocky Mountain Element 50
Bike Setup:
Default factory setup (D AM package)
Bottom Line:
I bought this bike to replace my Rocky Mountain Element 50 which was and still is an amazing XC bike. I wanted more travel AM setup and decided to go with the Heckler. I read the reviews online and decided to take a chance with the Heckler w/o even test riding it. I live in the middle of nowhere so it was a gamble.
The first ride I did was on a trail that had several 3' drops which I have NEVER cleaned on my Rocky Mountain. On my first Heckler ride, I clean each and every drop and felt that I could have done even larger drops. I was impressed to say the least.
While there may be better bikes on the market, the Heckler out of the box felt like the best bike I have ridden and I see no reason to nit pick the subtleties of single pivot vs. VPP. Whatever. Keep it simple stupid, is my motto.
My only grip is with the Avid Juicy Seven brakes which started to Turkey Gobble after a few months of riding. My LX Shimano's on my Rocky Mountain have been flawless.
Other than that, the Heck has been a dream and I can now keep up with riders half my age. Santa Cruz rocks!
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Submitted by
dhw
a Weekend Warrior
from A.g. ca us of a Date Reviewed: January 25, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Ridge trail / east boundry
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$1800.00
Purchased At:
Ira's Bike Shop In A
Strengths:
It is and has been a Magic Bike! Climbs like a goat, faster than I would ever need to go down the trail. I am a big guy and this bike is made for people like me ( 6'3/ 265lbs)
Weaknesses:
the juicy 3 brakes and it i a bit heavy
Similar Products Used:
Specialized enduro
Bike Setup:
I have changed the for (Marizochi) and wheels Tubeless and Brooks saddle
Bottom Line:
a magic bike I would buy a heckler any day it just feels right out of the box
I ride up things I use to push and it smokes on the down hill
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Submitted by
scottydmtbike
a Cross Country Rider
from New York, NY Date Reviewed: January 25, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Cuningham park
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$2500.00
Purchased At:
Ski Rack
Strengths:
toughness
Weaknesses:
weight
Similar Products Used:
Turner rfx, Intense 6.6
Bike Setup:
1 by 9, Pike 140 pushed, CK head set, Tompson seat post, stem. lg-1 chain guard. monkey lite bars.
Bottom Line:
This was my first real bike, talk about bullet proof.I have dumped in rock gardens, hit trees head on, gone over the handle bars, run down hill, jumps, and XC, this bike will do it all, my plan was to run this bike for a year, beat on it,and then build some thing nice after my skill level got better. At this point the only dowm fall I can see with this bike is the weight, maybe 5-7 lbs more then most of the guys I ride with, but I'm 190lbs, so will a 5lb lighter bike make that much differants? Come to find out all my wipe outs were due to rider error, After a year of riding, I fly on this bike now. For the money I think this is a great bike to start with.
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Submitted by
bowipa
a Weekend Warrior
from Jakarta, Indonesia Date Reviewed: January 25, 2009
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2600.00
Purchased At:
Bicycle World and Fi
Strengths:
Simplicity of the single pivot system. I really don't understand it, but it seems that Heckler is also a good climber, which I found surprising for a single pivot system bike.
Weaknesses:
The factory tire (Nevegal 2.35) is not working with sticky mud, the tire just turned into a donut. However I would say that overall the bike itself does not have any weaknesses.
Default factory setup (D AM package), however changed the fork to Revelation 426 Dual Air, rearshock from Float R to RP23 and crankset from Deore to SLX. So far so good.....
Bottom Line:
This bike changed the way I ride, it gave me more confidence to go over trail that previously I was too worry to ride. I used to ride around the foothills of the volcanic mountain around Jakarta, Indonesia. I would say that a rearshock with Propedal capability is a must, it helped the suspension system to really eliminate bobbing (which a single pivot system is suspect to). I gave 4 chillis for value because I still think the price is still too expensive, however I gave 5 chillis to the overall rating without any doubt. This bike really rocks!!!
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Submitted by
knotyetdead
a Weekend Warrior
from Renton,WA USA Date Reviewed: January 19, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Lake Sawyer
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Purchased At:
Renton Cycle
Strengths:
Simple and reliable single pivot design. Light enough for XC, strong enough for AM.
Weaknesses:
Swing arm seems to stiffen while braking, and climbing in the granny. This is typical for single high pivot design. Just means I do my braking BEFORE the turn or bumpy section which is what I should do regardless. Stock Nevegal DTC tires are lousy when the trail gets wet (which is most of the time in the rainy Pac NW.)
Similar Products Used:
Nothing quite like it.
Bike Setup:
XL frame, white powdercoat, X9 AM build kit. Replaced 110mm stem with 90mm to improve steering precision. Replaced 7in rear rotor with 6in because it was too easy to lock up the rear wheel.
Bottom Line:
Would have considered the new Blur LT if it had been available when I chose the Heckler. The old Blur LT didn't seem stout enough for my riding style. Buy this if you want the one do-it-all bike.
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Submitted by
miguel
a Downhiller
from Hawthorne, CA USA Date Reviewed: January 8, 2009
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
The path bike shop
Strengths:
wow everything is solid
what can you say it's a work horse
Weaknesses:
really after about 3yrs none ...
Similar Products Used:
foes fxr k2 disco monkey
Bike Setup:
06 Heckler white with white 06 Z1 light bombers, blue hope hubs. saint brakes.ox drive train,thompson elit seatpost and stem.xt cranks c.king headset, ect...
Bottom Line:
If you are looking for one bike that does pretty much everything from dh runs to trail ride,urban,dirt jumps well the Heckler is it !!I owed this bike since 06 and never ever had any problems with it. I had raced this bike on a dh course when my dh bike was out of commission and placed mid pack in expert class so the Heckler is more than ready for any task at hand..This review is for a 06, so the new ones 09 should be even better with a slacker head angle...
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Submitted by
pealander
a Cross Country Rider
from ct Date Reviewed: January 5, 2009
Favorite Trail:
ninham
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1200.00
Purchased At:
smart cycles
Strengths:
simple, durable, beautiful, and versatile
Weaknesses:
wish the made in taiwan logo wasn't anodized on frame. peel off sticker would suffice.
Similar Products Used:
06 heckler, 03 enduro
Bike Setup:
ano black large frame with rp23, fox talas 36
Bottom Line:
love it. switched a medium 06 frame with dhx air 5.0 which was a little small for a large 09 frame. loved the old frame and love the new one even more. the new rp23 is pretty sweet too.
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Submitted by
alanplander
a Cross Country Rider
from ct Date Reviewed: January 5, 2009
Favorite Trail:
ninham
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1200.00
Purchased At:
smart cycles
Strengths:
simple, durable, beautiful, and versatile
Weaknesses:
wish the made in taiwan logo wasn't anodized on frame. peel off sticker would suffice.
Similar Products Used:
06 heckler, 03 enduro
Bike Setup:
ano black large frame with rp23, fox talas 36
Bottom Line:
love it. switched a medium 06 frame with dhx air 5.0 which was a little small for a large 09 frame. loved the old frame and love the new one even more. the new rp23 is pretty sweet too.
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Submitted by
morgan richaardson
a Downhiller
from San Luis Obispo , CA Date Reviewed: December 2, 2008
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$2600.00
Purchased At:
CBO SLO
Strengths:
i ride this bike as my daily rider and my trail bike. i also have a kona stinky dee for the mountains. the simple design geometry is reliable. six inchens of travel at 30lbs! the fox dhx 5.0 propedal makes it easy to climb and plush on the decent
Weaknesses:
creaks until i serviced the bearings
Similar Products Used:
Kona Stinky Dee, specialized enduro, GT agressor
Bike Setup:
fox 32 rlc, fox dhx 5.0, avid juicy seven. sram x-9.
Bottom Line:
great bike for the trails and riding around town. it can easily handle urban street riding and the worst my local trails can offer. i still would like to have a fox 36 to make a total freeride bike.
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Submitted by
aharonfrid
a Weekend Warrior
from Rehovot, Israel Date Reviewed: November 28, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Perfume Trail
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Strengths:
Carries my weight smoothly and effortlessly. Great on the climb - the Pike and RP23 settings aid this a lot. Performs well in the mud as well as in a hot arid climate. The single pivot rear suspension system is the most efficient in power use I've tried, and the Gary Fisher's were good too!
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Gary Fisher Sugar then Cake
Bike Setup:
Rockshox pike 454, RP-23, XT M770, Avid Juicy 7, Thomson Elite seat post and Stem, Specialized carbon handle bar
Bottom Line:
Bought a 2008 orange frame while in the UK. Was looking for a sturdy bike that wouldn't complain it was carrying some overweight. Had it fitted according to my vision of the best bike I could afford. The bike has performed far better than I could imagine and only regret I could not afford a Heckler sooner. It is comfortable, it fits me like a glove - no aches and pains whatsoever. Is this an individual experience - maybe, but you should try it. Some second thoughts on the Hope rear wheel hub (can't get used to that clicking when free wheeling), would have liked to try a Fox at the same level as the Pike - but these are not regrets: I love this bike.
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Submitted by
Craig Pre
a Weekend Warrior
from Sparwood, B.C., Canada Date Reviewed: October 29, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Fernie Mountain (all of them)
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1499.00
Purchased At:
Straightline bikes F
Strengths:
Good price, can ride anything.
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
03Heckler, 05Turner 6pack
Bike Setup:
Switching to sram drive train, Z1 freeride with eta from 05, new elixir brakes
Bottom Line:
I had an 03 and loved it but I thought it was time to change it up. So I bought a Turner 6 pack that I loved but I always missed the snappy single pivot heckler so last season I built a cheap hardtail and sold the six pack and saved for a new heckler at the begining of this season. The heckler is the true do it all bike, its snappy, fast and does not steal energy like 4bar or vpp design. For the money I don't think it could get better than this.
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Submitted by
RustyUK
a Weekend Warrior
from North of England Date Reviewed: September 7, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Glentress
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
unbelievably plush, planted feel
Weaknesses:
price!
Similar Products Used:
Orange 5, Spesh Enduro, Mongoose Teocali
Bike Setup:
Rock Shox Pikes, Fox RP23, XT build, Maxxis High Rollers
Bottom Line:
Took out a hckler recently at a demo day at my local trail centre, somewhere I ride A LOT. All I can say is that this was without doubt, the most complete ride I have ever experienced. Bike climbs well, handles descents like a dream and gave me more confidence in a couple of hours, than my regular ride, which I have had for the last two years. Saving as we speak........................
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Submitted by
catnash
a Weekend Warrior
from Carmarthen Date Reviewed: September 6, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Brechfa
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$5000.00
Purchased At:
Leisure Lakes Chelte
Strengths:
Performance, simplicity, geo, handling, maintenece a breeze.
Weaknesses:
It's cheaper in the States.
Similar Products Used:
Enduro SL, S-works Enduro 04/06, Gemini, 575 04.
Bike Setup:
Anno silver small. 09 Talas 36RC2, PushedRP23. XT, Thomson Masterpiece P and X4Stem. Carbon Bar. DT5.1, Scwalbe etc etc.
Bottom Line:
After a year it just get's better. Started with the 32 Talas but had to succumb to a big fork, that Talas really complements the frame and is light and very strong and plush. I've had the RP23 Pushed and the bike was great before and now its even better. Been through a British summer and the mud room is second to none, no clogging there. I cant notice any flex at all in the rear swing arm and I've had a few strong bikes too.
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Submitted by
Ghostryderflyby
a Cross Country Rider
from Nampa ID, USA Date Reviewed: September 6, 2008
Favorite Trail:
The Face and Deer Point @ Shafer Butte
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1700.00
Purchased At:
George's Cycles
Strengths:
140mm of front and 150mm of rear travel, coupled with terrific stability and control. Upright cockpit positioning reduces neck/arm fatigue. Rock solid quality component package. Reinforced frame to handle the big drops and abuse. 2 year warranty and 1 year of free service from George's.
Weaknesses:
Juicy 3's are finicky on adjustment and like to make a bit of noise if not perfectly adjusted.
Similar Products Used:
Univega DS 950 & Specialized Rockhopper Pro Disc.
Bike Setup:
Deore AM Complete Package. Rock Shox Recon 351, Fox Float R, Shimano Deore LX front/XT rear, Avid Juicy 3's, TruVativ stem and bars, Kenda Nevegal rubber stuck on Mavic XM 321 rims laced to Shimano M525 LX hubs.
Bottom Line:
Infinitely rideable and is an absolute blast to ride. Handles all the bumps and twists with aplomb and instills great rider confidence. I find myself riding much harder and aggressively than on any previous bike I've owned, and feel much more confident doing so. The suspension travel is very well controlled, with no rebound, and offers a terrific ride. I find myself far less fatigued on the long bumpy downhills, as I don't have to use my legs and arms to absorb the shock like on previous bikes. You can run right over a large rock, tree root or a parking curb on this thing and barely notice, and landing from a good drop yields no rebound and steady control. Very nimble and easy to dive into hairpin turns as well. I now look for trails I used to avoid and enjoy every minute of it.
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Submitted by
cps
a Weekend Warrior
from Castelldefels, Spain Date Reviewed: September 4, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Anything with long steep climbs, loads of Singletrack and Fast Downhills
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2500.00
Purchased At:
Woodside Biks Shop
Strengths:
Perfect Geometry for my size (XL fame for 6,2' biker), strong, beautifully built, aggressive looks
Weaknesses:
Bit on the heavy side
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale Prophet
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz R AM built (RockShox Revelation 426, Fox Float R, Avid Juice 5-ers, Sram X7 shifters, Sram X9 RD, Shimano SLX FD, Shimano XT hubs, Truvativ Lowriser handlebar, Truvativ seatpost, MTB seat, Kenda Navegal 26 x 2,35
Bottom Line:
This is my first encounter with full suspension bikes so maybe this review is somewhat biassed. The first serious ride was done in the UCSC/Wilder Ranch in the South Bay area, and I guess the bike was made for this trail. The ride was exactly the way I would expect it to be: uphill was a breeze, the singletrack was like driving on a freeway, the technical climbs were easy to do, the downhill very fast and responsive. The rear suspension not even once bottomed out (even though I am 210 lbs). Before I was not a jumper, with this bike I made my first 3 feet drops and it felt like a speedbump. Very recomendable bike for someone looking into a sturdy do it all bike.
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Submitted by
mycisco
a Weekend Warrior
from Novato, California, USA Date Reviewed: August 19, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Toads Wild Ride, Boggs, Annadel
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
craigslist.org
Strengths:
Very fast climber. I owned a GT I-drive before, and the heckler blows it away. Solid on the descent. Holds a line well and inspires confidence on jumps. Looks very impressive - makes people want one just by looking at it.
Weaknesses:
fragile decals, maybe a little heavy (but isn't that what makes the frame stronger, more alloy?)
Similar Products Used:
GT I-Drive, Specialized, Giant
Bike Setup:
Sunline stem, Fox Talas 32R, Fox DHX 5.0 air, LX/XT derailers, Juicy 5s, mavic wheelset, Chris King headset, raceface evolve xc crank, WTB velicorapter 2.1s, raceface carbon bars, SRAM PC971 chain, thompson elite post, WTB seat
Bottom Line:
The Heckler is a great all-mountain bomber. I thought it would slow me down on the climbs compared to my I-Drive, but I shaved over 4 minutes off my Annadel climb and I feel like I can climb even faster. I was pretty maxed out on my I-drive so it has to be the bike - Amazing!!! Downhill this bike really cranks. I can take it over rough spots with ease, jump confidently, and go plenty faster than I could on other bikes. The Fox suspension has been flawless, and smoothes out the rough spots to keep your speed up. Also, this bike just looks right. People see it and really want one (keep it locked up tight!) This bike took my game to the next level. 5 chilis!!!
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Submitted by
speleo
a Cross Country Rider
from Manchester, England Date Reviewed: August 17, 2008
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$4500.00
Purchased At:
North West Mountain
Strengths:
Excellent climber, competent decender, can be built as reasonable weight and very tough XC machine.
Weaknesses:
Big calves may catch swingarm. Had a couple of main pivot pinch bolts fail in 6 months of regular use.
Similar Products Used:
Enduro, Mount Vision, Stumpjumper
Bike Setup:
Pike Air, RP23, XT, 819's
Bottom Line:
Had an 04 Enduro and was basically looking for a replacement. Heckler climbs even better and descending is a little more lively and fun, probabaly not quite as quick as slightly less stable (higher BB?). Blown away by how good a single pivot can be. If your looking for one bike that is ideally suited to UK riding and can do a week in the Alps, then this should be very high on your list. RP23 is amazing on regular riding but you can blow your way thu the travel quite easily and pinch on bigger suff. Smaller air can would probably be a better idea to make it ramp up a little more, but not tried it. Built it as tough all moutain and got it to 30ibs (XL). Only problems have been 2 pinch bolt heads have snapped off on main pivot. Suspect this is a design issue so I would recommend replacing them with top quality, longer M6 bolts threaded full length. If the heads snap off you can then wind them out from the back with mole grips, otherwise its a nightmare getting the remnants out. Overall, really impressed, amazingly refined do it all single pivot design.
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Submitted by
cchandle
a Downhiller
from la selva beach CA United states Date Reviewed: August 15, 2008
Favorite Trail:
UCSC
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1750.00
Purchased At:
Craigslist
Strengths:
Not a huge weight issue. Can take downhill while still alowing you to ride up hills. Depending on how you set it up, the Heckler can be either a XC bike or a Downhill bike.
Weaknesses:
A little too heavy for a weight stickler.
Similar Products Used:
Dont know
Bike Setup:
Fox 36 Van, 5th element coil shok, juicy 7's, sram xo rear deraillur, shimano xtr front
Bottom Line:
Great all around bike, get it if you want to do stuff that is more on the downhill side of the all mountain category.
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Submitted by
je1028
a Weekend Warrior
from Austin, Texas, U.S. Date Reviewed: July 30, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Barton Creek Greenbelt
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1350.00
Purchased At:
Speedgoat Bicycles
Strengths:
Climbing, Cornering, Suspension Travel, low maintenance single pivot suspension design, tough looking bike
Weaknesses:
Poor paint and decals are not on par with previous Specialized Stumpjumper FSR. I expected more from a top of the line bike manufacturer.
Similar Products Used:
Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite
Bottom Line:
I read every review on this site about the Heckler before I purchased it 3 months ago. This bike rocks and is the most capable I have ever ridden. I run the Fox Talas 36 R fork and its great for adjusting from 160mm travel down to 130/100mm for climbing. The Heckler handles five ft. drops and laughs. This bike climbs well and descends even better. I was worried about weight and pedal bob coming from my Stumpjumper FSR but It has not been an issue. The Heckler kills the Stumpy. I ride on very rocky terrain and this bike opens the trail in ways I thought were impossible. The Fox rp23 is a great choice for All- Mountain rididng with its propedal function and easy setup. It took a couple of rides to dial it in but once its set up you can forget about it. This bike makes me smile everytime I ride it and it's worth every penny. That is the bottom line.
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Submitted by
DK
a Weekend Warrior
from Bloomington, IL USA Date Reviewed: July 26, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Whatever I'm riding
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$750.00
Purchased At:
From a friend
Strengths:
Burly frame for a trailbike.
Efficient pedaling for a single pivot.
Easy to maintain.
Fun, fun, fun!
Weaknesses:
Not carried by any local shops.
Similar Products Used:
Giant VT
Specialized Epic
Bike Setup:
Fox Vanilla fork, XT wheelset, brakes, cranks and drivetrain.
Bottom Line:
I've had the Heckler built up with beefy, bomb proof components and also ultra light, race components. It is a super fun ride regardless of which way you go.
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Submitted by
arfur
a Weekend Warrior
from northumberland, uk Date Reviewed: July 19, 2008
Favorite Trail:
cairngorms, scotland
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$1100.00
Purchased At:
ebay
Strengths:
simple frame design; strong; extremely versatile.
Weaknesses:
can't reach back to use the bottle-opener while riding!
Similar Products Used:
kona dawg; santa cruz superlight; turner 5spot
Bike Setup:
medium '06 frame, fox rl 125 forks, raceface cranks, hayes brakes, shimano gears, mavic xm117 wheels, panaracer cinders, easton kit.
Bottom Line:
I bought this frame new and cheap off ebay, it's the sweet liquid blue colour and 18" (i'm 6ft - perfect fit for me with a 90mm stem). Built the bike up in a lightweight (30lbs) allmountain style using a selection of parts from old bikes and new stuff too and, it works!
For a simple, single pivot frame it handles everything with ease and seems to push me into riding harder, longer and faster.
For almost two years now, this heckler has been riden on all sorts of terrain - from fast flat singletrack, trail centre action, to overnight mountain epics and i can honestly say it has not caused me a single problem: no creaks, no cracks, no loose bearings, not even any dents or serious scratches.
I normally swap my bikes after a couple of years, but i can't really think of a good enough excuse to part with this one, the bottom line is - it's a fun, good-looking, reliable, do-it-all frame. Then again, the new '08 heckler looks damn fine!
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Submitted by
jhmtb
a Weekend Warrior
from Thousand Oaks, CA Date Reviewed: July 16, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Guadalasca/Sullivan Cyn.
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
Westlake Cyclery
Strengths:
Built to last, Perfect balance of lightweight and bulletproof durability. Climbs and corners like a XC Racer and bombs the Downhill like it was built for it. Incredibly all around balanced bike!
Weaknesses:
only thing I could think of is Rear derailleur hanger loosened up twice in 4 years, not really a weekness.
Similar Products Used:
Enduro, 5.Spot, Maverick, Trek
Bike Setup:
Maverick Duc, XTR Crank, XO Shifters & der, Avid Juicy 7 brakes, 5th element air & DHX Coil, carbon bars, 517 rims, Kenda Nevegal
Bottom Line:
This bike has been bullet proof! Every bike I have owned I have broken the frame & fork. I have raced this bike in a downhill event and XC event in the same day. Depending on the shock, fork and tires you use it can be set up to be a low 26.3 pounds for XC or heavier for trail riding & DH. It climbs & handles like my Fuel 100 did, but yet descends amazingly smooth and stable like a DH bike, the bike just corners like it is on rails at all speeds! It is incredibly forgiving & stable under any circumstances. This bike could be used by just a weekend warrior that likes to cruise on the local trails or the hard-core trail rider that will go for a few DH events during the season just to get the blood going! I did not think it was possible after 28 years of riding, but I believe this may be the best bike ever produced for high durability, low maintenance & with excellent performance & feel during all riding situations! My Heckler is over four years old and performs as good as the day I bought it!
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Submitted by
yo
a Downhiller
from Aptos Date Reviewed: July 6, 2008
Favorite Trail:
anything at UCSC
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
yo
Strengths:
Great climber, fairly good jumper
Weaknesses:
I find that with a smaller front shock IE 120, it can climb like a beast, and jump good
Similar Products Used:
Nomad
Bike Setup:
Manitou Black, 5th element rear, xt
Bottom Line:
IT is a great bike overall. It started to squeek and it turned ou being the derailer hanger... 4 chillis for that
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Submitted by
hassan
a Cross Country Rider
from malaysia Date Reviewed: June 10, 2008
Favorite Trail:
kemensah
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$4800.00
Purchased At:
ksh,ttdi
Strengths:
built quality,single pivot teccnology,various built up options.
Weaknesses:
none so far.
Similar Products Used:
merida am 800,jamis parker 1,norco six two
Bike Setup:
rp23,fox vanilla 32,xt brakes,xtr groupset,kcnc seatpost,mcmahone headset,sunline v-one stem & riser bars,odi grips,wtb pure v sddle,syncos ds 23 with novotec hubs & wtb moto raptor 2.4 tyres,wellgo pedals.
Bottom Line:
Decided on the heckler after detailed research.others considered were superlight ,turner & yeti. never regretted on the decision.very good performace as an allrounder though mine is built up as a x-country.glad that i chose the rp23 instead of the dhx air.a very good climber & superb downhiller. i could ride faster overall !by the way im 54 & have just started riding for 6 months.should have started much earlier !
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Submitted by
Nick
a Weekend Warrior
from Forest of Dean, UK. Date Reviewed: May 29, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Coed y Brenin, N Wales.
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$5000.00
Purchased At:
Leisur Lakes, Cheltenham.
Strengths:
Great all round bike, for the rider that wants to do a bit of everything! 08 frame looks fantastic.
Weaknesses:
None so far.
Similar Products Used:
Orange Patriot XCEL, Cannondale Prophet.
Bike Setup:
08 XL Frame with Fox RP23. Fox Talas 36 R. Hope Pro 2 on DT Swiss EX 5.1 rims. Hope Mono M4 brakes. Hope headset. Thompson stem and seat post. XT components. 30.5lbs without pedals!!
Bottom Line:
Only had this bike for a few months, but am really pleased with its performance. I built it relitively strong, but even so it came in at sub 31lbs. Being just over 6ft 2" tall, I was on the border line of a large and XL frame. I chose the XL, and run it with a 90mm stem, which works great. I initially built the bike with Pike's, but changed to the Fox 36's which is what I had on my Patriot.The 160mm fork gives the bike a more all mountain feel, and relaxes the head angle by about 3/4 degree. I would class myself as an "all mountain" rider who likes to do a bit of everything, from long XC type rides to messing about on jumps, drops etc, and this bike is perfect. The single pivot and Fox RP23 works an absolute treat on the climbs. For the rider that wants a good all rounder, that looks great, definately try out the new SC Heckler.
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Submitted by
Nick
a Weekend Warrior
from Forest of Dean, UK. Date Reviewed: May 29, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Coed y Brenin, N Wales.
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$5000.00
Purchased At:
Leisur Lakes, Cheltenham.
Strengths:
Great all round bike, for the rider that wants to do a bit of everything! 08 frame looks fantastic.
Weaknesses:
None so far.
Similar Products Used:
Orange Patriot XCEL, Cannondale Prophet.
Bike Setup:
08 XL Frame with Fox RP23. Fox Talas 36 R. Hope Pro 2 on DT Swiss EX 5.1 rims. Hope Mono M4 brakes. Hope headset. Thompson stem and seat post. XT components. 30.5lbs without pedals!!
Bottom Line:
Only had this bike for a few months, but am really pleased with its performance. I built it relitively strong, but even so it came in at sub 31lbs. Being just over 6ft 2" tall, I was on the border line of a large and XL frame. I chose the XL, and run it with a 90mm stem, which works great. I initially built the bike with Pike's, but changed to the Fox 36's which is what I had on my Patriot.The 160mm fork gives the bike a more all mountain feel, and relaxes the head angle by about 3/4 degree. I would class myself as an "all mountain" rider who likes to do a bit of everything, from long XC type rides to messing about on jumps, drops etc, and this bike is perfect. The single pivot and Fox RP23 works an absolute treat on the climbs. For the rider that wants a good all rounder that looks great, definately try out the new SC Heckler.
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Submitted by
Eddie Clark
a Cross Country Rider
from Boulder, CO Date Reviewed: May 22, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Primo
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1250.00
Purchased At:
Sports Garage
Strengths:
For the 08 frame: well built, bomber frame, and is lighter and stiffer than my previous 02 Heckler
Marz 55eta, Fox rp23, all 08 XT drivetrain and brakes, Easton Havoc wheels with 2.35 minions f/r, Easton monkey light bars, Thomson stem and seatpost. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2208/2432527643_73220cc43a_o.jpg
Bottom Line:
This bike loves to go fast downhill and take to the air. It climbs with less effort and accelerates faster than my last 02 Heckler- this may be somewhat due to lighter wheels and bike. Complete bike weighs 31.3 pounds which is quite good for a bomb proof 160mmF/150mmR suspension bike. The wheelbase is 1" longer and bb is about 3/4" inch higher than my 02 Heckler, which changes the handling a little. The longer wheelbase could be shortened and steering sharpened slightly with a 140mm fork (my Marz 55eta is 160mm), but I'm happy with it's current handling. Using the eta feature on the fork to shorten travel length is key for good climbing ability. If you're thinking about this bike and will be climbing a lot, get a fork that has an on-the-fly travel reduction feature.
For 07/08, Santa Cruz really improved upon the last version of Heckler with newer hydro-formed tubes (lighter and stiffer), and an improved main pivot with better bearings=longer life span and stiffer.
Regarding the previous posters that had problems. I think they are an extremely small minority. I put 5.5 solid seasons of extremely hard riding (xc, dirt jumping, and hard downhilling) on my last Heckler and the frame never complained once. On top of regular maintenance, I also overhualed my bike twice a year and only replaced the main pivot bearings 2 times in those 5.5 years. I don't know anyone who can make the same claim about ease and cost of maintenance for their frames!
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Submitted by
Eddie Clark
a Cross Country Rider
from Boulder, CO Date Reviewed: May 22, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Primo
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1250.00
Purchased At:
Sports Garage
Strengths:
For the 08 frame: well built, bomber frame, and is lighter and stiffer than my previous 02 Heckler
Marz 55eta, Fox rp23, all 08 XT drivetrain and brakes, Easton Havoc wheels with 2.35 minions f/r, Easton monkey light bars, Thomson stem and seatpost. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2208/2432527643_73220cc43a_o.jpg
Bottom Line:
This bike loves to go fast downhill and take to the air. It climbs with less effort and accelerates faster than my last 02 Heckler- this may be somewhat due to lighter wheels and bike. Complete bike weighs 31.3 pounds which is quite good for a bomb proof 160mmF/150mmR suspension bike. The wheelbase is 1" longer and bb is about 3/4" inch higher than my 02 Heckler, which changes the handling a little. The longer wheelbase could be shortened and steering sharpened slightly with a 140mm fork (my Marz 55eta is 160mm), but I'm happy with it's current handling. Using the eta feature on the fork to shorten travel length is key for good climbing ability. If you're thinking about this bike and will be climbing a lot, get a fork that has an on-the-fly travel reduction feature.
For 07/08, Santa Cruz really improved upon the last version of Heckler with newer hydro-formed tubes (lighter and stiffer), and an improved main pivot with better bearings=longer life span and stiffer.
Regarding the previous posters that had problems. I think they are an extremely small minority. I put 5.5 solid seasons of extremely hard riding (xc, dirt jumping, and hard downhilling) on my last Heckler and the frame never complained once. On top of regular maintenance, I also overhualed my bike twice a year and only replaced the main pivot bearings 2 times in those 5.5 years. I don't know anyone who can make the same claim about ease and cost of maintenance for their frames!
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Submitted by
Eddie Clark
a Cross Country Rider
from Boulder, CO Date Reviewed: May 22, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Primo
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1250.00
Purchased At:
Sports Garage
Strengths:
For the 08 frame: well built, bomber frame, and is lighter and stiffer than my previous 02 Heckler
Marz 55eta, Fox rp23, all 08 XT drivetrain and brakes, Easton Havoc wheels with 2.35 minions f/r, Easton monkey light bars, Thomson stem and seatpost. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2208/2432527643_73220cc43a_o.jpg
Bottom Line:
This bike loves to go fast downhill and take to the air. It climbs with less effort and accelerates faster than my last 02 Heckler- this may be somewhat due to lighter wheels and bike. Complete bike weighs 31.3 pounds which is quite good for a bomb proof 160mmF/150mmR suspension bike. The wheelbase is 1" longer and bb is about 3/4" inch higher than my 02 Heckler, which changes the handling a little. The longer wheelbase could be shortened and steering sharpened slightly with a 140mm fork (my Marz 55eta is 160mm), but I'm happy with it's current handling. Using the eta feature on the fork to shorten travel length is key for good climbing ability. If you're thinking about this bike and will be climbing a lot, get a fork that has an on-the-fly travel reduction feature.
For 07/08, Santa Cruz really improved upon the last version of Heckler with newer hydro-formed tubes (lighter and stiffer), and an improved main pivot with better bearings=longer life span and stiffer.
Regarding the previous posters that had problems. I think they are an extremely small minority. I put 5.5 solid seasons of extremely hard riding (xc, dirt jumping, and hard downhilling) on my last Heckler and the frame never complained once. On top of regular maintenance, I also overhualed my bike twice a year and only replaced the main pivot bearings 2 times in those 5.5 years. I don't know anyone who can make the same claim about ease and cost of maintenance for their frames!
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Submitted by
RiderInOC
a Weekend Warrior
from Orange, CA. Date Reviewed: May 7, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Aliso Woods
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Strengths:
Well balanced. Good climber. Smooth transitions.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
03 Santa Cruz Heckler, GT I-drive, Mongoose
Bike Setup:
Pike 454 forks, Fox DHX 5.0 coil, XT drivetrain, Mavic 819's with Hope Pro II hubs, Thomson seat post/stem.
Bottom Line:
This bike is a beast. It's light enough to knock out a fast and fun cross country ride and beefy enough to take jumps and downhills. The bike responds well in all conditions. From climbing up long steep hills to bombing downhills, the set up and geometry of this bike is solid. Once dialed in, the bike performs like a champ. I would recommend test riding and/or purchasing a Heckler. Good stuff!
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Submitted by
Dean
a Weekend Warrior
from Provo Date Reviewed: May 6, 2008
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$2900.00
Purchased At:
Colorado Cyclist
Strengths:
Perfect mix of lightweight and bombproof durability. Climbs like a mountain goat, floats down the descents and corners like it's riding on rails. I love the simplicity of the single pivot.
Weaknesses:
None so far.
Similar Products Used:
07 Kona Dawg Dee-lux, 08 Specialized Stumpjumper Pro, 08 Gary Fisher HiFi pro 29, 06 Specialized Epic,
Bike Setup:
08 XT components including new brakes (very sweet). 32 TALAS/RP23. Thompson/Raceface cockpit. Easton Havoc wheelset. Chris King Headset.
Bottom Line:
I love this bike. Nothing I have ridden has come so close to really living up to the "All Mountain" name. The geometry is perfect for all day epics that include very technical sections and steep chutes. I was riding an 07 Kona Dawg that I loved, but the difference is huge as far as capability goes. I have mine built up pretty light (29 lbs for a large), but it still eats up descents like they're nothing. Colorado Cyclist did an exceptional job on the build and their customer service is top notch, they built it to my specs and had it shipped to me in less than a week. All this and it was the cheapest full XT, serious all mountain bike I could find!
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Submitted by
Rick
a Weekend Warrior
from North Van Date Reviewed: April 29, 2008
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Strengths:
Great all round bike which can be built light or heavy depending on it's use...
Weaknesses:
The bloody rear pivot mount
Similar Products Used:
Norco, Specialized
Bike Setup:
Marzocchi FR ETA, 5th coil-over, XT/XTR, etc.
Bottom Line:
After having bought the frame in 2004, replacing the rear triangle in 2006, the rear shock pivot holes have ovalized AGAIN!!! This is after I bought a torque wrench and kept everything torqued right to spec. I refuse to purchase another rear triangle. I also find it interesting that the latest itteration has a totally different way of attaching the rear pivot point. I'm going to find a new frame, transfer the parts, then beat the frame flat with a sledgehammer!
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Submitted by
andy
a Weekend Warrior
from Orange County, CA USA Date Reviewed: April 28, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Noble Canyon
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
speedgoat bikes
Strengths:
Relaxed geometry, bottomless suspension, fat knobbies, great parts spec, awesome wheelset, gangreen color.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
SC Superlight, old school heckler
Bike Setup:
X9 AM with carbon bar, gravity dropper, hopey steering damper.
Bottom Line:
Wow. Coming off the very capable Superlight, the Heckler is still a notch above - all the positives of the single pivot design, but more relaxed, super plush, incredibly stable and unperterbed and confidence inspiring. More relaxed feel than a 07 Blur LT I rode in comparison, just a perfect fit. I'm 5' 10" and I went with a size large even though I was on a medium SL before. The Heckler looks and feels big in the parking lot but disappears underneath you when you're riding. I'm a mellow rider, you don't have to be a young gun to appreciate this bike. As far as paint goes, I put clear Veloskin (excelsports.com)on the cable wear points and have no issues. The Gangreen color is the bomb - looks like a friggin' army Hummer but gets unlimited MPG in peace. A gorgeous monster.
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Submitted by
steve b
a Weekend Warrior
from maryland ,usa Date Reviewed: April 27, 2008
Favorite Trail:
patapsco
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2500.00
Purchased At:
avalon cycles
Strengths:
nice bike while it lasted climbs well,very good down hill not to heavy
Weaknesses:
weld cracked on swing arm ,wating for santa cruz to send a new one like i did to get the frame in the first place
rode the bike for two months nothing more than xc and small juumps maybe a bad weld we'll see if it happens again.really like the bike but santa cruz seems to take their sweet time.i guess things are different i ca.
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Submitted by
Jay
a Weekend Warrior
from Truckee, CA USA Date Reviewed: April 13, 2008
Favorite Trail:
mr toads
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$2475.00
Purchased At:
cyclepaths
Strengths:
Perfect all around beater.
Weaknesses:
came with a rock shox Tora, upgraded to the Fox float 32...thank god!
Bike Setup:
Fox float32, deor AM kit, Fox float RP23
Bottom Line:
Been riding a hard tail for 12 years, very stoked on my upgrade. bike is bomber, ride anywhere and do anything. little heavier than im used to but I will adapt.
I test rode lots of bikes in this catagory and this bike came out on top hands down....obviously!
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Submitted by
JC
a Weekend Warrior
from UK Date Reviewed: April 13, 2008
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1800.00
Purchased At:
Two Wheels, Stourbridge
Strengths:
Lots of plush air sprung travel. Very adaptable to different setups with 140 or 160mm fork - and pretty light considering travel.
Weaknesses:
None found on first test ride...
Similar Products Used:
05 Santa Cruz Bullit, 2nd generation Specialised Enduro
Bike Setup:
Fox 36 VanR fork and RP23 shock, DT Swiss EX1750 Wheels, 2.35 High Roller tyres, XT chainset, SRAM gears and Hope M4s. Thomson/Easton finishing kit, Gobi saddle.
Bottom Line:
Was worried about going from a 7" coil spung frame to a lighter 6" Air sprung frame - I knew it would be better on the ups but what abouts downs... No worries - bike climbed better than expected even with Propedal switched 'off', and it flew through single track and felt as plush and stable as the bullit on the decents. Easily the best bike I've ever ridded! It is a purely awesome all mountain frame - not ideal if you are an XC whippet or a full on DH'er but if you ride everything and anything (like me) I cannot fault it.
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Submitted by
George
a Weekend Warrior
from Davis Date Reviewed: April 11, 2008
Favorite Trail:
anything fast and fun
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$2300.00
Strengths:
I got an 08 Heckler hoping to get the All Mountain bike and I was rewarded with my decision. Its tough, can handle a lot of light DH, can do jumps, and pedals extremely well for a single pivot thanks to its great platform.
Weaknesses:
Santa Cruz powdercoat paint looks pretty bad and the decals are crap. get the anodized frames.
Submitted by
Cheyne
a
from San Diego, CA, USA Date Reviewed: March 17, 2008
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$999.00
Strengths:
Cost & simplicity
Weaknesses:
simplicity
Bike Setup:
XL 05 heckler/fox float r w/ fox 32 vanilla r
Bottom Line:
I bought it as an AM bike that would be problem free and that it has been. It climbs well enough. Going fast and off the brakes the bike is awesome. When on the brakes in steep technical sections I get pitched forward more then on other bikes I have ridden (brake jack and dive from the coil fork). I'm going to try a fox float 36 r or maybe the 32. I think that will help in the steep stuff.
I would recommend this bike to anyone looking for a reasonably priced bullit proof do it all bike. My one encounter with SC support (just called in w/ a set up ?) was positive as well.
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Submitted by
Rudy
a Cross Country Rider
from Kutztown, PA Date Reviewed: March 3, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Any in the Lehigh Valley
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1100.00
Purchased At:
Saucon Valley Bikes
Strengths:
**This is a Follow up review to my '06 frame (last of the H5 series).**
Tough as nails. Afraid of nothing. It dares the rider to push the envelope. Who needs a 29er when you have an athletic bike like the Heckler.
*my first review was around 148-150th - check it out*
Weaknesses:
Keep an eye on the pivot bolts. Mine loosened up slightly after about a half summer of really hard trail riding. Caught it early enough with no ovalizing of the bearings.
I Weebled off balance once at a slow pace and layed the bike over softly (so I thought) and, to my surprise back at the car, there was a dent on the driveside seatstay. No structural weekness, mostly a cosmetic bummer as was reaffirmed by my LBS.
Similar Products Used:
Giant VT
Bike Setup:
Manitou Minute :02 130mm (coil) Fox DHX 5.0 Air Mavic x223/XT hubs/DT Swiss 14g Kenda Nevegal 2.35's LX - crank/bb/front der. XT shifters XT rear der. Avid BB7 mechs. 6" fr/rr Race Face post/stem 100mm FSA headset Easton bars WTB Pure V saddle
Bottom Line:
I never feel out of place in any terrain on this bike. I even started hucking a little here and there after I bought this bike. I am super confident in rock gardens and slick rooty areas. I like the technical climbs, because it is when I can show off and my buddies think it's my skill when it's really the bike....I'm serious, don't laugh. This damn bike scares the daylights out of me when I let go of the brakes. At the top of a descent my regular riding buds usually turn to me and say "You go first cause you'll be on our a$$ anyway!" I never felt the true sentrifugal bliss of a high speed turn until I rode this bike for about 6-8 months. This bike has raised my personal bar for riding.
This is the first year in the last 8 that I didn't spend the winter paging thru catologs and surfing the net for my next bike. I already own my next bike, and the next and the next. On the Heckler, I'm Home!
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Submitted by
joseph headrick
a Weekend Warrior
from chattanooga Date Reviewed: February 29, 2008
Favorite Trail:
raccoon mtn.
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1300.00
Purchased At:
jd bikes
Strengths:
it's the beefcake almighty! leap off of a 4' stone and still climb like the lil brother~superlight!
Weaknesses:
doesn't come in hot PINK!
Similar Products Used:
dodge viper, bob~cat, and bottle opener found in junk drawer
Bike Setup:
fox rp23~talas 32 rlc xtr drivetrain 07 juicy 7 brakes w/ dangerboy grips king headset 08 xt wheelset~tubeless kenda nevegal 2.1 fizik gobi saddle race face deus stem & post
Bottom Line:
this bike rules the land! i'm sure all the bikes within this travel range are about the same now days, but commin off the superlight to the 5+" travel bike is unreal! the slack 69 degree headtube lets you plunge off all the drops like its nothing! endo city with the 4 inchers....get one, you will like!!!!
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Submitted by
Robert
a Weekend Warrior
from Greensboro, NC, USA Date Reviewed: February 11, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Owl's Roost
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
Paceline bicycles
Strengths:
Solid bike!!!! Allows you to climb the hills with ease and treats you to a bomber ride down. Can pull up to the cross country start line and make the twitchy light hardtails suck wind to keep up. Basically like a 2 AM drunk call.....always can count on it and ALWAYS delivers
Weaknesses:
Pivot creaks. Powder coat paint wears but it's a mountain bike.
Similar Products Used:
Omit to avoid hurt feelings
Bike Setup:
Kendra Nevegal 2.35, Mavic 321 Disc Rims, Fox Float RLC 140mm fork, Swinger 4-way coil, SRAM X-9, Juicy 7 brakes & A SWEET pig horn on the Raceface Deus XC bar
Bottom Line:
Like already stated, 2AM drunk call........Always can count on and ALWAYS delivers!
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Submitted by
Amilcar Rodriguez M.
a Cross Country Rider
from Caracas,DF, Venezuela Date Reviewed: February 5, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Parque Nacional El Avila, Jarillo.
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$4200.00
Purchased At:
LatinBike - Caracas
Strengths:
What but I like of this bicycle, am his strength, as sees and as it works. Ademas comes with Very Good Brakes, Shock absorber and Fox suspension that all land for my does. It can arrive at where many doubles do not arrive. It can shine like a hardtail. Without a doubt some the best purchase than done.
Weaknesses:
perhaps but the delicate thing that brings this bicycle, is their Grips
Similar Products Used:
My other Bicycles, Giant XTC full XT and disc, And Specialized 120 Stumpjumper FSR disc, 2005.
Bike Setup:
Full XT Components, Avid Juicy Seven 2008, Rotor 185mm/160mm, Fox Talas RLC 140 2008, Fox Float RP23. DT Swiss Wheels, Kenda Navegal 2.1, Race Face Handlebar and Steam, ODI Grips, Thomson Seat Tube, WTB Seat.
Bottom Line:
This is one of the best bicycles than I have proven and mounted, it forms it with the option that wished from the damping, brakes, wheels and color of picture, also the components. List to be used in great routes.
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Submitted by
Martyn
a Weekend Warrior
from Carmarthen Date Reviewed: January 13, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Bergwm
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$4500.00
Purchased At:
Leisure Lakes Cheltenham
Strengths:
Simple, strong, balanced geometry, build it light and strong or heavy and hard. Great mud clearance. Will be simple to maintain AND cheap.
Weaknesses:
Nothing at the moment.
Similar Products Used:
Gemini 2000, 04,06, 07 Enduro, Yeti 575 all owned
Bike Setup:
Light at the mo, getting a PIKE and EN521's nect, Thomson elite/masterpiece, Full 08 XT, Maxxis High Roller for solo rides and Scwalbe for group rides. Ayup Lights
Bottom Line:
Used this bike now for 6 weeks riding gfor 40 actual riding time and I've never had a bike to do it without fuss. It's solid and no flex and I can see myself keeping this bike as there's just one pivot to replace. The reason I got this bike was the great review and I wish I had bought this bike 2 years ago, though this is the newest version. It's built exactly to the terrain I ride in.
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Submitted by
Kirk
a Weekend Warrior
from Templeton, CA Date Reviewed: January 2, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Just Outstanding
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$2600.00
Purchased At:
JB Mountain Bikes
Strengths:
It rides great up, down, and anything in between on the mountain. My silver anodized Heckler looks great. Very durable - no mechanical failures or problems, whatsoever.
Weaknesses:
Heavier than some. The welds are not works of art, but according to those who know more than I do, they are improving.
Similar Products Used:
Giant NRS, Cannondale Delta V
Bike Setup:
Fox DHX Coil shock, Vanilla RLS fork, SRAM components, Thomson seat post and stem, Kenda Nevegal tires, etc.
Bottom Line:
Best value at this price. Best bike I have owned. Check out "JB Mountain Bikes" online; Justin Bernardo, who owns the operation, gave me the best deal I could find and was always available for consultation.
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Submitted by
Chowjusky
a Weekend Warrior
from Los Angeles, CA Date Reviewed: December 10, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Industry
Strengths:
Everything
Weaknesses:
Nothing I can find (yet)
Similar Products Used:
Various pieces of stock crap
Bike Setup:
RP23 rear shock, Manitou Minute3, Deus Cranks, Juicy 7 brakes, Mavic XM819 handlaiced wheelset, Hope hubs, Maxxis High Roller 2.35 UST, XO rear and shifters, XT front, Thomson post & stem, Ithys Gove saddle, FSA O/S carbon bar & Acid 2 pedals
Bottom Line:
By far the best ride I have ever had. The Heckler is like riding your couch everywhere. TBH I cant find anything I dislike about this ride. Sure, some less educated people think that made in the USA is best. Unfortunately, it ain't. The welds, materials and construction are far better and cheaper in Taiwan. You only pay more for US made because of the disparity in labor costs. Anyway, back to the bike. There is aboslutely no bob on the climbs if you have the RP23. The bike is so responsive on climbs & descents that I fell in love with riding all over again. I have managed to get the whole build to around 30lbs which aint bad for a 5"+ all mountain ride. There is a reason that this frame has won so many awards and if you test ride one you will see.
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Submitted by
Mike Luna
a Weekend Warrior
from Laguna, Ca. U.S. Date Reviewed: December 7, 2007
Favorite Trail:
five oaks, Aliso Wilderness
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Purchased At:
Laguna Cyclery
Strengths:
everything
Weaknesses:
wish I could brag that it's USA made like my LT, but it's Taiwan
Similar Products Used:
Blur LT, Kona Dawg
Bike Setup:
36 fork, juicy 7's,twisters, nandlaced 717 wheels with 2.35 Nevegal
Bottom Line:
I was warned by many bike shops against going single pivot. I have put 4300 miles on a Blur LT, and had to get used to the difference from a Blur Classic. No joke, the first time I rode the '08 Heckler, it was like I had ridden it for years. I changed over parts from the LT to the Heckler to fairly compare the two, but in my eyes, there is no comparison. The heckler can climb techy stuff better, the brake jack is a myth, maybe because I use a lot more front brake. Descending is at much, much higher speeds, and 5' flat drop offs to asphalt are very smooth. Can you tell, I love the simple, single pivot masterpiece that is the '08 Heckler.
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Submitted by
graham
a Weekend Warrior
from uk Date Reviewed: November 26, 2007
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
new 08 model beutiful design and shape, as other have said this bike rides light but can take the tough stuff
Weaknesses:
strange one this, the bottom bracket is 1 inch lower than it shows on the website geomentry guide. with 140mm fox forks it's 12.5". I've fitted a longer shock and fork and it now measures 13.5 as it should be but that can't be right. the shock it came with was 200mm eye to eye. the one I've now fitted is 215mm. anyone else had a prob
Similar Products Used:
gemini, had it for ages and loved it.
Bike Setup:
now, fox 36R's, DHX5 215mm, blue hope everything, middleburn cranks, un72 square tapper BB, which is 4 years old and still going Thomson post, SRAM KIT
Bottom Line:
I've contacted the importers ref BB height and hope to get it sorted. like i say be good to here if anyone else has had a prob, or is mine a bad one
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Submitted by
Ben
a Weekend Warrior
from San Francisco Date Reviewed: November 24, 2007
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Strength and simplicity - this design has been slowly refined since the dawn of time, becoming the perfect all-mountain or light freeride frame.
Weaknesses:
Big freaking pivots interfere with larger chainrings in the middle position
Similar Products Used:
Nomad, 5 spot, Slayer, Uzzi, etc.
Bike Setup:
DHX5.0 coil, Vanilla 32, Atlas 180mm cranks, 26t+34t+bash, DTSwiss340+LaserDisc Trails, Juicy7s, Azonic Pokeys (awesome!), various tires from 2.3 to 2.5's (mostly WTBs), etc.
Bottom Line:
I should have bought this frame years ago instead of messing around with multi-link designs. Utterly stout, squeak-free, and simple. Rides awesome.
If you've tuned a shock before, then it is child's play to get efficient pedaling out of the DHX 5.0, while still keeping it plush. My setup lets me stand and mash on the pedals with very little movement. Be sure to run the correct spring rate. If you're not sure, get another and try it out. The effort to get this right pays off tenfold. You need to dial in sag FIRST, then rebound, THEN mess around with everything else.
From all the talk, I was worried about brake jack. No worries. All bikes should be set up with bigger front and smaller rear rotors - ever wonder why every single seriously fast vehicle outside of mountain biking is set up that way? (Hint - you should be getting 75% of your braking force from the front, which is where the weight transfers... If you're braking late with the rear... then for god's sake please stop. You're the one causing all the braking bumps. Man up and carry some speed through the turns.)
Was definitely surprised to find this the sweetest riding full suspension frame I've ever tried, since was expecting to give something away with the single pivot. Nope. Took about 10 rides to sort out the suspension and the stem/spacer/bars combo. Now is 100% gangster on any all-mountain terrain. Eats up drops, rock gardens, roots, and gnarly technical descents. Also to my amazement eats up climbs, pedals like crazy, eats riders in lycra on their $5k bikes, etc...
In its first three months my Heckler has spent several weeks riding in Moab, Fruita, Downieville and the Bay Area. This bike can take it all. For lift-served or sustained Moab duty, the only change I'd want to make is a bigger fork w/ 20mm through axle. Otherwise could even take it in the park.
I sized it larger than SC recommended, and am very happy w/ a XL. I'm 6'2' and 165, running a 90mm stem. Very stable at speed and still plenty of room to move it around with body english in the technical or in the air, or to quickly bail off when things go all pear-shaped.
Only regret? Am running a 2 ring+bashguard setup, and am kinda limited to 34t in the mid-ring position without doing weird things to the bottom bracket alignment and chainline. Wish I could do 36t - would seem a pretty obvious need on this type of bike.
So I give this 5 chilis for both value AND overall. Some others have said they think it gives something up to the very highest-end frames. I call BS on that. I've ridden many of those frames, and I don't think the Heckler+DHX5.0 combo gives up anything. Maybe it just happens to be a perfect fit for my riding style - so be it. If you can find something better, ride it instead.
But remember, there's a reason Santa Cruz has kept this around since the dawn of time.
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Submitted by
mark nichols
a
from aberdeenshire Date Reviewed: October 31, 2007
Favorite Trail:
golspie
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Purchased At:
bothy bikes
Strengths:
superb bike especially after getting full race fox dhx5 coil by tf tuned, stops it kicking on the really rough stuff
Weaknesses:
the paint
Similar Products Used:
yeti,cannondale, Kona
Bike Setup:
pikes,sram X 9, e-thirteen, hope 203 front 185 rear,big earls,
Bottom Line:
Well what can you sat pedals well, super plush with full race push coil shock, can it get better, idont think so tried a nomad but what can it do better than my heckler. When the boys are at the back you know the bike is good, bye bye yeti, cannondale etc see you at the bottom..
Good for the rider who wants one bike for all uses, not good for a fast hardtail user but then who rides hardtails off road seriously.....................go short full suss
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Submitted by
mark nichols
a
from aberdeenshire Date Reviewed: October 31, 2007
Favorite Trail:
golspie
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Purchased At:
bothy bikes
Strengths:
superb bike especially after getting full race fox dhx5 coil by tf tuned, stops it kicking on the really rough stuff
Weaknesses:
the paint
Similar Products Used:
yeti,cannondale, Kona
Bike Setup:
pikes,sram X 9, e-thirteen, hope 203 front 185 rear,big earls,
Bottom Line:
Well what can you sat pedals well, super plush with full race push coil shock, can it get better, idont think so tried a nomad but what can it do better than my heckler. When the boys are at the back you know the bike is good, bye bye yeti, cannondale etc see you at the bottom..
Good for the rider who wants one bike for all uses, not good for a fast hardtail user but then who rides hardtails off road seriously.....................go short full suss
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Submitted by
Jim
a Weekend Warrior
from Washington Date Reviewed: October 23, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$2900.00
Purchased At:
Willawaw
Strengths:
Light weight for the travel. 29.5 lbs at the bike shop scale. Sexy looking. Does not feel like 29 lbs.
Weaknesses:
Do not like stock seat,WTB Pure V Stealth.
Similar Products Used:
Spent the last 7 years on a Santa Cruz Superlite.
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz X9 AM kit. X9 rear d and trigger shifters.Juicy 7.Nevegal 2.35.Fox RLC 140mm.Acid peddals.
Bottom Line:
This bike makes me smile every time I ride it.I ride technical single track most of the time with some light freeride,no drops over 3ft.This might be more bike than I need,but the Superlite was not big enough.The bike is only 3lbs more than the SL,and 1lb is in the wheels/tires.I only notice the weight on long uphills,but it flat cooks down hill.At first I thought the bike had a lot of suspension bob when I stood up and cranked up steep hills,untill I had a friend follow me. He said the rear had almost no movement. I tried some more hills with the fork locked out and it feels almost like a hardtail. It is as good or maybe a little better than my SL with a Pushed shock.On small drops(2ft) it feels like my SL,but it just soaks up the larger drops.My only real complaint is how crampd the cockpit feels,but I am used to the cross country feel of my SL.I also wish Santa Cruz offered Anodized frames with there complete kits. The paint on my Chameleon is not good,but the anodized on my SL is great. I bought the painted Heckler because it is cheaper. I hope it holds up.
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Submitted by
Rex
a Weekend Warrior
from Pasig, Philippines Date Reviewed: October 20, 2007
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2500.00
Purchased At:
Santa Rosa Bikehauz
Strengths:
simplicity of design and somehow it came out looking handsomely aggressive.
Weaknesses:
none at the moment but I'm keen to observe the rear suspension attachment on the frame. The 07 model looked less strong compared to the classic but this is just by looking at it.
Similar Products Used:
came from a h/t but have tried Jamis Dakar AM3 and an 06 Nomad.
Bike Setup:
Fox Float R rear shock, 08 Fox Van RLC, 08 XT groupset, Kenda Nevegal 2.1 DTC, Truvativ XR (handle bar, stem and seat post), Shimano DX clipless and WTB Pure V saddle.
Bottom Line:
I can take this bike anywhere and still come out smiling 'coz as always it has been a great ride. The full suspension systems works and is very plush but holds itself on climbs. Downhill is so steady and fun.
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Submitted by
Scott
a Weekend Warrior
from Long Island, NY Date Reviewed: October 16, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1400.00
Purchased At:
Bike Junkie - Bethpage, NY
Strengths:
In a short simple statement: An incredibly simple design, tough enough to take some abuse but light enough to go on long rides.
Weaknesses:
Too new to give any
Similar Products Used:
'04 Bullit, Rocky Mtn Element
Bike Setup:
RP23 rear shock, Fox Float 140m fork and miscelaneous parts from my old RM Element
Bottom Line:
This bike is exactly what I've been looking for. I previously owned a Bullit and Rocky Mtn Element...both great bikes but the one thing they lacked was the middle ground that I was looking for...that was a bike that could take some abuse yet be able to go on longer rides. After moving to a smaller space I decided to finally sell the 2 bikes and get what I've always been looking for...a bike that gives me the best of both worlds in one package. My old Bullit was a bike that felt like a tank going over everything in a simplistic design whereas the Element was light enough to go long distances yet not giving me enough travel that I longed for in a bike. In the Heckler I have found the best of both worlds. I can't rave enough about the simplistic design and low maintenance that comes with Santa Cruz single pivot designs. I've seen this bike set up for XC and I've seen it set up for more extreme riding at DH trails. I think I've found a good mix with mine tipping the scales at around 31lbs. Could I lighten it up - yes...could i beef it up - sure....but why would I when this bike doesn't limit me to any one type of riding. Go buy one...you won't be disappointed. I'll review down the road after riding it more and seeing more of the benefits than the ones I've just written about.
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Submitted by
Daygo
a Weekend Warrior
from Cali Date Reviewed: September 29, 2007
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
simplicity, looks, durability...no squeak.
Weaknesses:
on small frame I could not fit a fox 36.. the bottom tube will hit the top of the adj. knobs.
Bottom Line:
I've tried a lot of bikes out there.. too much hype with all the linkage design.. this frame rocks.. decent enough for climbing, and descends fantastic.. I've always been looking into replacing this bike.. but cannot do it.. especially everytime i ride this thing.. always put a smile on my face..
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Submitted by
Scott
a Downhiller
from DanVegas Date Reviewed: September 22, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Crooked Stick
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Purchased At:
Paceline
Strengths:
durable, light (compared to my previous bike), single pivot simplicity.
Weaknesses:
low bottom bracket, some brake-jack in techy, rocky-rooty junk..
Similar Products Used:
Kona Coiler Deelux, Santa Cruz Blur.. Redline monocog 29
Bike Setup:
2007 Heckler, Fox DHX Air, Rock shox Pike 454, Avid Juicy 7, King Headset, Thompson, Stylo cranks, Sram stuff...
Bottom Line:
I've only got several rides on this Heckler but I'm super stoked about it. I went from pedaling a 41 pound Kona to this 31.5lb. dream. It's a pretty good climber and a great descender, just an all around good bike.
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Submitted by
Jason
a
from Modesto, CA Date Reviewed: September 22, 2007
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
For me, it's SIMPLICITY and DURABILITY. It's also REASONABLY PRICED and a great ALL-AROUND performer.
Weaknesses:
It's NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT suspension design, and it's a BIT HEAVY. This is most noticeable when you are trying to go uphill FAST (i.e. racing).
Similar Products Used:
Santa Cruz Bullit
Bike Setup:
New 2007 Frame with Shimano XT/Fox "trail riding" build (31 pounds).
Bottom Line:
I've put a lot of miles on this frame in the last 4 months. They have been mostly mellow trail rides, but my 210 pounds adds a lot of stress. After much thought and research (and 6 years on a Bullit), I decided to buy the new 2007 Heckler. It feels a lot like the Bullit, but lighter and more snappy. With Kenda Small Block 8's and a Fox RP23, it accelerates quickly (even at 31 pounds). It handles extremely well going downhill (a lot like the Bullit). It climbs respectably with the propedal turned on or off (even though I think a frame's "climbing performance" should be based more on rider fitness...I climb faster on any bike when I am in better shape). The Heckler's climbing performance changes depending on the ride. On short to epic recreational rides, it "climbs" better. During the occasional race (2-4 times per year for me), it "climbs" slower than other race-specific frames. See what I mean? It all depends on your expectations. So far I've used it for trail riding, 24 hour races, long training days in the dirt and on the road, and even a 13+ hour day in the saddle. I needed a frame that fit my budget ($1,400); required very little maintenance (I'm not a good mechanic); would hold up for 5+ years; and provide above-average to excellent performance in a wide variety of conditions. That is exactly what the Heckler gives me every time. I agree with another reviewer who gave it 5 chilis for "value" (I think it's hard to beat a Heckler in this category) and 4 chilis "overall" (it's a "great" frame, but there are others out there that are better). Happy shopping!
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Submitted by
jeff
a Weekend Warrior
from Woodside, CA Date Reviewed: September 16, 2007
Favorite Trail:
no fav, like 'em all
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Purchased At:
Mike's Bikes
Strengths:
I have the original Heckler, before it became the Superlight and then, apparently, the Heckler again. As far as I know, the only difference between my bike, which is 8 years old, and the new Heckler is that the swingarm on my bike is heavier (not by much).
I've ridden thousands of hours on it, traveled all over California, Utah, and Colorado with it, and adventure raced it on more than a few occasions. Simply put, this is a hall of fame design. There are better bikes, without a doubt, but few that can stand the test of time like the Heckler. It's still competitive against much newer bikes.
- lightweight without sacrificing durability - great clearance - compact cockpit makes for very efficient riding position - quick and maneuverable on tight trails yet confidence inspiring on fast washboard
Weaknesses:
- the one piece rear swingarm doesn't give you the feel that a multilink does
Similar Products Used:
many... Rocky Mountain would be my favorite.
Bike Setup:
old school... Marzocchi Bomber, XTR controls, Avid mechanical discs, Race Face cranks, Hayes Superlight hubs on whatever rims I can get a good deal on (I think I have Sun and Mavic right now), Thomson seatpost, King headset, and a Easton handlebar... but seriously, I haven't replaced anything on this bike in years other than a saddle that wore out. It's like the energizer bunny, just keeps going and going.
Bottom Line:
Everyone loves their new bike but how many people can say after 8 years on a single bike that it's still a five chili?
The Heckler lives up to the task and then some, and the durability means you won't get stranded somewhere when you really need it. I rode 40 miles a day over a week in Moab and while my friends needed trailside repairs, or outright new bikes, my Heckler never flinched.
You will notice that I gave the bike a 5 chili value rating, for the reasons stated above, but only 4 on overall. The reason for that is it's clear that there are some really amazing bikes that are capable of a higher level of performance and I think that on overall ratings you have to take into account relative performance, so when compared to other bikes the Heckler is still competitive but not superior to the top shelf bikes on the market today.
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Submitted by
stuart embleton
a Downhiller
from england Date Reviewed: September 11, 2007
Favorite Trail:
glentress
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
bicycle wharehouse
Strengths:
great allrounder all day comfort will handle just about anything,low maintenance,great riding position plus i think it just looks like a proper bike
Weaknesses:
powder coat frame finish is very poor for the money decals are cheap scratches very easily.
Similar Products Used:
riden a few but love my heckler
Bike Setup:
x9 am build kit(really suits this frame)dhx air 5.0 replaced uncomfortable lizzard skin lockons for odi ruffians which are superb shorter stem for downhill days
Bottom Line:
this is all the bike you need for freeride super strong fast and reliable turns heads where ever i take it and good value for money it would take alot of bike to make me want to change it just a shame about the paint .
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Submitted by
Sean
a Weekend Warrior
from Charlotte NC Date Reviewed: August 21, 2007
Favorite Trail:
The dirt ones
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$700.00
Purchased At:
Used frame
Strengths:
Beefy strong, smooth, great climber, weight to strength ratio seems high. simple design.
Weaknesses:
Long chainstays, LOW BB for a load of pedal strikes
Similar Products Used:
Marin quad XC with most of my parts moved to this, Turner 5 spot in MOAB
Bike Setup:
Fox RPs3 PUSHed, LX Crank/shifters, thompson post DT240/317 xtr bits, hope collar, oury, FOX Talus 32 RLC Hayed mags
Bottom Line:
Great ride, can't get 100% comfortable due to the stays and low BB, The bike is bottomless. It can handle everything I throw at it and would / could handle a bunch more.
As a clyde I wanted a beefy frame I could build up XC orientated, thats how I have it. It really is an affordable all a-rounder. I have the 06 model and have 0 complaints (except the low BB) but friends have riden the bike w/o a problem so I figure its part style part weight both of which I can change
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Submitted by
Man Child
a
from santa rosa california Date Reviewed: August 16, 2007
Favorite Trail:
annedal state park
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
cbo
Strengths:
it can do just about anything, just not extreme freeriding.
Weaknesses:
nothing!
Similar Products Used:
santa cruz nomad, kona coil air
Bike Setup:
race face drivetrain and stem, easton havoc handlebars and set post, rockshox pike 426
Bottom Line:
the bike is great, it is a smooth ride on rocky downhills, it can handle big jumps (i have never liked going off big jumps until know) and it is a great climber. i highly recommend this bike, no matter what kind of rider you are.
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Submitted by
Bob
a Weekend Warrior
from Fort Collins Colorado Date Reviewed: August 12, 2007
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$1450.00
Purchased At:
Arizona Bicycle Experts
Strengths:
Simplicty of Design Frame Durability Versatility
Weaknesses:
After 3 years I've given up looking for one
Similar Products Used:
Demo rides on a few other brands
Bike Setup:
Fox Vanilla RLC Fork & DHX Air 5.0 Shock, Full XTR Drivetrain, Thompson Elite Stem and Post, Monkey Lite 31.8 DH Carbon Bar, Mavic Crossmax ST Rims w/ Continental Vertical UST Tires, Hayes HFX Discs
Bottom Line:
This is an update to a previous review that I posted.(actually several reviews) At the time of my last review I had just bolted a bunch of new components on my 2003 Heckler, thinking that I had arrived at the perfect bike. Well I was a bit off. The Saint Double Cranks and Shimano M647 Pedals, along with my original Progressive Coil Shock, pushed the weight of the bike over the 33 pound mark. When the winter snows melted and I actually started riding the bike, I immediately realized that this setup was better suited to a young gravity freak than to my 57 year old trail riding style.
The bike would roll over anything but getting it there was not a fun chore. I started to seriously consider getting a new bike, but my old Heckler was too good a friend to part with. So off came the Saints and 647's and on went an XTR Cranset and pedals. I also went to tubless Continental Vertical tires.The final part of my plan was switching to an air shock. I decided on a 2008 Fox DHX 5.0. I ran into a little glitch when I went to mount the shock. It simply would not clear the frame at the front mount. I called Santa Cruz and the tech rep said they had started putting a dimple in the later frames to clear the DHX, but the 2003 frames presented a problem. I knew better than to put my own dimple in the frame, but I was also determined to get the shock mounted. Let's just say that I succeded.(OK, maybe my Fox Warranty is now void) When I weighed the bike it registered just over 28 pounds.
An epic ride yesterday just north of Toronto Ontario has inspired this new review. As it is now configured, my Heckler has taken on a whole new life. It still rolls over just about anything, but the lost weight has turned it into a nimble trail bike that can be ridden all day without me having to take a day off from work to recover. I tried a lot of settings on the shock before I got it dialed in and finally hit on the right combo. The Fox fork and shock now work like they were made for each other. The bike pedals like a dream and soaks up any hits the trail throws at it. At the end of the ride I renewed my vows with the old Heckler. She is an absolute joy to ride.
I felt stupid for thinking that I needed a new bike. She has a few scars here and there, but scars are not flaws. This simple, single pivot design can roll with any of the techno heavy, multi pivot trail bike wonders out there and it does so without the headache of constant maintenance. She has rewarded me with many hours of fun riding and gracefully put up with my experimentation on components. I have seen the light and I am now in touch with my inner Heckler.
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Submitted by
mr spock
a
from christchurch nz Date Reviewed: August 4, 2007
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
the interwebby!
Strengths:
Durability and reliability, the single pivot bearings last ages and are cheap and easy to replace when the inevitable strikes. Versatility, it can be used for virtually any type of riding - and it's pretty good at most of them too. Pedals efficiently, weight is very reasonable considering the beating it can withstand. Anodized finish is very durable. The frame is still in one piece despite much abuse.
Weaknesses:
Displays some of the tenancies that are inherent in single pivot designs: some stiffening of suspension while braking, some pedal feedback on square edged bumps when climbing. It really isn't that bad though, much better than some other single pivot bikes ie crackenfail... Also, lateral flex is noticeable when landing big jumps or really thrashing the downhills - though this is to be expected given the relatively light weight of the frame
Similar Products Used:
Many, many different bikes.
Bike Setup:
I've had this frame 2.5 years. It's on its 4th set of forks and drivetrain, and 3rd rear shock and set of wheels. Current build is a Pike, XT/sram drivetrain, DT wheels and juicy brakes.
Bottom Line:
I've given this bike a good workout over the years, it's been built up with heavy wheels and dual crown forks and raced downhill - and has also been built up light and seen many epic backcounty rides and the odd 24hr race. In short, build it how you want and thrash it as hard as you can, it delivers the goods. Yes you do notice a bit of pedal feedback, some lateral flex when ridden really hard and some loss of sensitivity under brakes (typical of single pivots) but it's more than made up for it by the bikes predictable stable handling. It's also tough. I've landed awkward drops hard enough to shear off the replaceable dropout (lucky it's replaceable eh?), blow shocks and demolish wheels, and the frame itself is still going strong. It's not the one perfect bike - I doubt that exists, but this mix of reliability, well mannered handling and true all mountain versatility at a very reasonable weight has yet to be matched by any other frame. Considering you'll get years of faithful service it's also excellent value.
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Submitted by
Jack Gold-Molina
a Cross Country Rider
from Seattle, WA, United States Date Reviewed: July 31, 2007
Favorite Trail:
No Joke to Karate Monkey to Monkey Hands, Whistler
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$2799.00
Purchased At:
Gregg's Greenlake Cycle
Strengths:
Light, solid, strong, nimble, can be built up as a great freeride bike or as an excellent cross country/all mountain bike
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
First full suspension bike owned, have test ridden and/or researched the Rocky Mountain Slayer, Gary Fisher Fat Possum, Norco 6 and Fluid, Turner 5-Spot and RFX, Intense 5.5, 6.6 and Uzzi, Yeti 575, Transition Covert and Preston, Ellsworth Moment, Specialized Enduro, Mongoose Teocali
Bike Setup:
Fox RP23 rear shock, Fox Float RLC 140mm forks, DT Swiss 5.1D rims and 340 hubs, SRAM X-9 shifters and rear derailleur, Avid Juicy 7 hydrolic brakes, Specialized Lo Pro Mag 2 platform pedals, Kenda Nevegal tires
Bottom Line:
One of the first of the newly designed 2007 Hecklers sold in the Seattle area, the bike immediately felt like I had been riding it for years. My first ride after the bike was built up was "A River Runs Through It," one of the Whistler Valley's black diamond cross country trails. This bike handled everything that trail has to offer, taking ladders, rocky, rooted, technical uphill climbs and descents, and jumps like it was built specifically with that trail in mind. After riding that trail repeatedly backward and forward, I took it into the bike park and rode the downhill blue trails and black diamond trails for four days. It handled beautifully. The only thing that had me a little concerned was riding the bike hard with the Fox RP23 rear shock and Fox 140mm forks where most people were riding downhill or free ride set ups with 8 inches of front and rear travel and dual crown forks. I was amazed at how tough the Fox components turned out to be. My 5.9 inches of rear travel and 5.5 inches in the front are awesome, but a Fox DHX5 spring loaded rear shock and Fox Vanilla RLC 160mm forks would handle technical downhill trails like those in Whistler's bike park a lot more effectively. I still had a great time up there pushing the bike (and my riding skills) to the limit! I have since taken the bike to Seattle's Tapeworm, a twisty, technical trail laden with tight switchbacks, and it performs really well on that type of trail with the RP23 shock and 140mm forks.
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Submitted by
Alistair
a Weekend Warrior
from Cheltenham, UK Date Reviewed: July 27, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Glentress
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$4000.00
Purchased At:
Leisure Lakes
Strengths:
Great going up the hill, even better going down it. And it is light for what it can do, sub 30 lbs (13 kgs).
Weaknesses:
None found yet.
Similar Products Used:
Giant NRS 2, this being my last bike
Bike Setup:
2007 frame, X9 build kit with All Mountain upgrade, Pike 454 air U-Turn Forks, RP23 Shock. UK spec.
Bottom Line:
It's first ride was literally in Verbier in Switzerland, (check out www.bikeverbier.com). And it came home with only a couple of scratches (My fault not the bikes). It climbs well, goes down the other side even better. It inspires confidence in what ever you do. I would recommend it to any one who wants a simple yet effective AM bike.
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Alistair
a Weekend Warrior
from Cheltenham, UK Date Reviewed: July 27, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Glentress
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$4000.00
Purchased At:
Leisure Lakes
Strengths:
Great going up the hill, even better going down it. And it is light for what it can do, sub 30 lbs (13 kgs).
Weaknesses:
None found yet.
Similar Products Used:
Giant NRS 2, this being my last bike
Bike Setup:
2007 frame, X9 build kit with All Mountain upgrade, Pike 454 air U-Turn Forks, RP23 Shock. UK spec.
Bottom Line:
It's first ride was literally in Verbier in Switzerland, (check out www.bikeverbier.com). And it came home with only a couple of scratches (My fault not the bikes). It climbs well, goes down the other side even better. It inspires confidence in what ever you do. I would recommend it to any one who wants a simple yet effective AM bike.
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SCOTT BEAULIEU
a Racer
from CHAPIN Date Reviewed: July 23, 2007
Favorite Trail:
EASTERN SLICKROCK DUPONT FOREST , N.C.
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3900.00
Purchased At:
CAMBRIA
Strengths:
LIGHT FOR 6 INCHES OF SUSPENSION. GEOMETRY SPOT ON...STIFF. GREAT NANNY GOAT ABILITY.
Weaknesses:
HIDDEN FRONT DERAILLEUR.
Similar Products Used:
JAMIS XLT
Bike Setup:
XTR O7'.EASTERN CARBON BARS AND POST, FOX FLOAT 140.JUICY'S.SMALL FRAME BLACK POWDER COAT.ACID PEDALS,MAVIC CROSS TRAILS.
Bottom Line:
THIS IS THE BEST ALL AROUND FRAME ON THE MARKET, PERIOD. THE GEOMETRY IS A CONFIDENCE BUILDER. 26.5 LBS FULL XTR GROUP. EASTERN BARS, SEAT POST.(CARBON) SINGLE PIVOT IS SUPER STIFF ON THIS 07 FRAME. BOMBS DOWNHILLS EVEN WHEN BUILT LIGHT. VERY HARD TO BEAT THIS BIKE NO MATTER WHAT THE COST........
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Submitted by
twoturn
a Cross Country Rider
from olympia,wa Date Reviewed: July 19, 2007
Favorite Trail:
green #6
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$3300.00
Purchased At:
frame @lbs
Strengths:
Stiff, simple design.
Weaknesses:
Maybe a little brakejack. Not bad though.
Similar Products Used:
Rockhopper, Blur, Superlight
Bike Setup:
Marzocchi FR 130 w/ 20mm thru axle, Hugi FR hubs, Mavic 729 rims with DT spokes, Holzfeller Cranks and Team DH BB, Holzfeller bar, King headset, Magura Louise FR brakes, Xo gripshifters, x-9 rear der, Shimano deore front der, easton post, WTB Laser saddle, Crank Brothers Mallet's, Sram PG990 cassette, 991 chain, WTB Timberwolf 2.5 race front tire, WTB Weirwolf 2.4 race rear tire, 5th Element.
Bottom Line:
Have more than 2000k on it. Bomber!!!! Built FR ( 37lbs) but do a lot of XC. Climbs great, sticks to whatever. Roots no problem. Rocks no problem. Uphill or down. Charges downhill infact. Raced Super D's with it. Dominates with easy transition betweem down and up. Will easily, the way I have it built, do drops and dirtjumping. A bit much for epics. After a few hours or 20-30k it starts to feel really heavy. No problems with durability. Original pivots. Only replaced the chain, cassette and chain rings. Rebuilt the hubs too. Good to do every once in ahile around here. Lots of mud and clay. Will last a very long time. The only thing I would change is maybe a new rear shock. Sick!!!
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Keith Schoon
a Weekend Warrior
from Pittsburgh, PA Date Reviewed: July 9, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Bavington (Hillman State Park)
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1300.00
Purchased At:
Speedgoat
Strengths:
Can take anything.
Weaknesses:
A little heavy, but more than gets the job done on the hills.
Similar Products Used:
This is my first full suspension. Owned a Trek hardtail previously.
Bike Setup:
2007 SC Heckler black ano frame w/ DHX 5.0 Chris King headset 2007 Fox Vanilla RLC Fork (140mm) Avid BB7 brakes Raceface Atlas crank Sram 990 cassette and 991 chain Azonic Outlaw wheelset Kenda Tires
Bottom Line:
Sweet ass bike. If you don't have the bank to buy it complete there's no shame in building it one paycheck at a time. It is worth it and is one sexy ass bike. After it gets dirty of course!
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Submitted by
Mitch McCrady
a Downhiller
from windsor california united states Date Reviewed: July 7, 2007
Favorite Trail:
northstar
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Purchased At:
cambria bicycle outfitters
Strengths:
It can handle all different sorts of terrain. It can make it up the hill, then blast down it.
Weaknesses:
I haven't found any yet.
Bottom Line:
This is a great bike. I just recently went to northstar at tahoe, and this bike was able to pass up all the freeride/downhill bikes on the black and double black diamonds. It is a great climber also, it motors up hills. I love this bike.
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Submitted by
Jarno
a Weekend Warrior
from Finland Date Reviewed: June 20, 2007
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Stiff, stable, simple.
Weaknesses:
Weaknesses associated with a single pivot design: pedal feedback and brake lockup.
Similar Products Used:
Dawg Deelux
Bike Setup:
Marzo AM1,DHX 5.0C, X9, Juicy 5, Sun Singletrack
Bottom Line:
As said in most of the other reviews: excellent all-rounder.
The DHX Coil is a really a great shock for this frame. Not the lightest but it doesn't bob and I have never felt it bottom out. It probably does, I just never feel it.
It's really at it's best when you just push it forward and don't hesitate. The rear-end has a habit of stiffening up when hitting the brake. Good thing is that you don't really need the brakes once you know where you want to be headin'..
I do get surprised everytime I hit a nasty climb, when this thing can take me to the top painless. Then I will awe myself at the speed it will handle on the rockiest descents.
This is the Corvette of bikes: classic, not too sophisticated, not high-tech, but still the fastest thing on the block. Don't forget great value!
Easy 5 chilis for value, but I'll save my 5 overall chilis for a design that can avoid the single pivot downsides but retain the upsides. It would really deserve 4.5 though..
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Chris
a Weekend Warrior
from New Zealand Date Reviewed: June 19, 2007
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$2700.00
Purchased At:
speedgoat.com
Strengths:
Fantastic 'do it all' bike. Frame is so versatile - you can build it up as an xc racer, a DH/FR machine, or something in between. Stong, simple single pivot design, well made and good product support
Weaknesses:
I haven't come across any yet
Similar Products Used:
Marin (Mt Vision, Rock Springs). Specialized Enduro, Kona Coiler (Spesh and Kona demo only - personally I found the Spesh too heavy and the Kona just felt wrong)
Bike Setup:
AM setup - Fox float shock and fork, Mavic 321s, DT Swiss hubs, Juicy 7's (great brakes), SRAM x7 shifters/derailleurs.
Bottom Line:
This bike is fantastic if you want to do a bit of everything. Sure there are no doubt better DH bikes (big rigs), and better XC bikes (weight weenies): if you are totally into a particular mtb 'discipline' then go buy the appropriate rig. BUT to ride your local trail, ride some structures, make some hits/drops, a few epic rides, and a bit of DH or 4X or jumps then this is your puppy. If you're thinking about it, BUY ONE
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Submitted by
Shackleton
a
from Bristol, UK Date Reviewed: June 13, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Whites level or Dartmoor
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
robinson wheel works
Strengths:
Stiff, strong, good standover height, looks good. Coil shock is damn plush. Rich feedback from the trail but without disturbing the ride.
Weaknesses:
Annodising isn't perfect in high wear areas but I'm clutching at straws here. Heavy with the coil shock.
Similar Products Used:
Giant VT, Titus Motolight, Giant Trance.
Bike Setup:
DHX5 coil, Pike 454 Air U-turns, Magura Louise FR, WTB Pure saddle, Thompson, King headset. DT5.1D rims on Hope ProII hubs.
Bottom Line:
A good quality shock with a platform is essential to get the best out of the suspension. The bike swallows everything I'm brave enough to try (including local downhill courses, Cwmcarn downhill, anything any part of the 7 stanes dishes out) with aplomb. Pikes are a great match. I often look at multi link hype bikes and think that maybe I could ride better if I had one but then remember that so far anything I've failed to ride has been most definitely due to pilot error. 1 pivot keeps things simple and the bearings have lasted 2 British winters of frequent riding which is better than most of my friends bikes with lots of pivots.
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Submitted by
Adam Hart
a Weekend Warrior
from Seattle Date Reviewed: May 31, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Local Tokul
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$420.00
Purchased At:
Santa Cruz
Strengths:
Frame, color choices, powder coat paint job and the price. (I work at shop.) I also love the fact that my bike was made by a former skateboard hero. ALL MOUNTAIN HUCKSTER BABY!
Weaknesses:
Weight, lack of IS chain guide tabs, and customer service.
Similar Products Used:
Giant Ac, SX Trail, Banshee Chaparral.
Bike Setup:
Marzocchi Z1 sport, DHX coil, DT Swiss 6.1D FR laced to King hubs, Spec Enduro Tires, Thompson seat post and stem, FSA Afterburner cranks & handle bars, ODI lock ons, X9 drive train, Time pedals, Juicy 5's, WTB saddle.
Bottom Line:
This bike is a true all mountain ripper. Sets up well with almost any type of build kit. Super simple single pivot thats easily maintain. I went two years on the first set of bearings.
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Submitted by
Rider
a Downhiller
from Medford Date Reviewed: May 22, 2007
Favorite Trail:
pbr,chucks,falls city
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Strengths:
Weight, stiffness, pedability, responsive,acceleration, fun
Weaknesses:
nuttin yet
Bike Setup:
dhx 5.0 air, talas rc2, juicy sevens, mavic 325 wheels, dt swiss hubs, sram shifters and drive, thompson seat post, wtb pure v seat, diabolous stem, kenda nevegal tires,monkey bars, trail king pedals, xt cranks
Bottom Line:
I have been pushing big bikes around for the last 4 years. I wanted something lighter more all mountain for the type of trails we have around.Something I could pedal easily but still take drops,jumps rock gardens and whatever else. I must say I made a wise decision. This bike does it all. 10' drops, 20' gaps no sweat. I will only ride my big bikes at the lifts or extremely rough trails. The lighter weight took a while to get used to because it does move around alot more in the rough. But it is so manageable and responsive it makes the rough more fun. This bike has made riding for me more enjoyable.It accelerates so quickly that I leave my big bike buddies in the dust. Love It. Big bikes are over rated.
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Submitted by
Steini
a Weekend Warrior
from Albany, West Australia Date Reviewed: May 18, 2007
Favorite Trail:
all of them
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
Great Southern Bicycle Company
Strengths:
Most fun and versatile bike I've ever had...like lots of the posts already say, you can build it up as a light trail bike or something more heavy duty.Also single pivot...easy to maintain...strong...the list goes on...
Weaknesses:
none...
Similar Products Used:
07 Specialized Enduro Pro SL, 06 Enduro Expert
Bike Setup:
XC/AM mix X9 shifting,DT Swiss EX 5.1 rims on Aireal hubs,Thomson post and stem, Stylo cranks, Juicy 7's 185 rotors, Monkeylite SL carbon bars, '07 Fox Vanilla RLC 140mm, Fox Float R shock, Kenda Nevegal 2.35 folding, Time pedals, around 31lbs, 2006 Heckler 4 frame black ano
Bottom Line:
This is the best bike I've ever had, the most fun to ride, climbs well bombs down stuff and has made me a better rider. I'd buy another one... Its a time proven design and performs well...I Love it. And the Santa Cruz Distributor for Australia is Ace... So if you want an all rounder with room to grow into look no further...
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Submitted by
chris
a Weekend Warrior
from burque nm Date Reviewed: May 17, 2007
Favorite Trail:
all of them
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
everything, best bang for the buck, flexibility in that you can build it as a fairly light super tough trailbike, or take the same frame and build it up to a burly freeride bike. It's fun to change out components and explore the bikes potential
Weaknesses:
The only weekness to me was the sizing jump from the large frame to the extra large frame. With the brand new frames it's not so bad anymore. But for a while it went from a 23.3 top tube all the way up to a 25??? That's a huge jump in sizing. I think it's now at a 23.5 and then a 24.5 which is better. Although I still wish they came in a 24! :)
Bike Setup:
at the moment it's all saint with XT shifters, 8 inch rotors front and back thompson, easton, a boxxer on the front with 2.5 and 2.7 inch tires. I know silly overbuilt, but it's been fun! I am about to go back to a pike on the front and 2.35 high rollers since it needs to pull some trail bike duty again.
Bottom Line:
As I said it's one of the best bang for the buck frame deals out there. The previous poster stating the rear end had FLEX is either full of it, or he had something wrong with the frame/bushings or shock he was using. That goes the same for the falling rate linkage, again the ride depends greatly on the shock your using and the set-up. And then there is the consideration that some people just don't like the way a single pivot feels. Alot of it is just in their heads, but...? :)
This is the 151st review of this bike, the next highest number of reviews is the Intense 5.5 another amazing bike, but consider the frame costs twice as much...
I have no doubt there are better bikes out there, but you just can't beat this bike for the money. It does everything well, it's tough as heck, and the only reason I would even think of getting rid of mine is to get a new one...
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Submitted by
Jim
a Weekend Warrior
from Renton, WA USA Date Reviewed: May 16, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Whistler..........
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$2300.00
Purchased At:
Center Cycle
Strengths:
Simplicity, plushness, relative low cost
Weaknesses:
rear end flex, falling rate suspension
Similar Products Used:
Came from a Kona Bear Dee-Lux
Bike Setup:
'07 Fox 32 Float, AM kit w/DHX5 coil
Bottom Line:
Before I begin I should say I am a big SC fan, my big bike is a VP-Free which I love. I really wanted to like this bike but should have spent more time doing some real trail testing first. The lack of lateral stiffness is alarming. Side hopping the bike causes massive flexing. It is also very noticeable when loading the rear end in a corner or pedal kicking up and over obstacles. The falling rate suspension also doesn't take too kindly to pre-loading for bunny-hops. On a positive note, when just flat out bombing down a rough patch of trail where you're not having to work the bike side to side the thing rips and the suspension feels bottomless. My buddy loves it though and is buying it from me as soon as the new Turner Spot arrives.......
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Submitted by
Carl Tantingco
a Cross Country Rider
from Manila, Philippines Date Reviewed: May 13, 2007
Favorite Trail:
south mountain
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$800.00
Strengths:
versatility
Weaknesses:
decals (nitpicking; can't find any. I'll post another review if i can find one)
this is my second review; the heckler rules; it just goes and goes. beautiful frame. light, cheap too. new version's out, don't care. this frame still looks better. the rp23 needs to be banned on this frame. its not fair; makes it float over anything, and greatly reduces bobbing. feels like a hardtail when set to 3, imagine that. and fast. couple that with a handling engineered by santa cruz, its one of a kind. begs to be ridden. yup, it mine is built light. overkill frame? yup. don't care. will i sell it? nope. that's what the heckler is. overkill. its for keeps. it is a non specific frame, you build it up. ya want it fast, its fast. ya want it tough, its tough. best part is, few frames out there have this magical quality. to have one is to believe. try it. but not mine. get one yourself, and then you'll see why. there's no turning back.
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Allan
a Weekend Warrior
from York, North Yorkshire Date Reviewed: May 7, 2007
Favorite Trail:
any North Yoks Moors
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$2800.00
Purchased At:
no free ad here!!!!
Strengths:
Excellent ride, super geometry, easy to dial in. Makes you feel extra confident.
Weaknesses:
Rear mech hanger - £35 - come on SC this is extortionate!!!!
Similar Products Used:
Specialized rockhopper prior to the Heckler.
Bike Setup:
06 medium with dhx air 5.0, RS pike 426 coil, mavic 721 36 spoke on hope pro II bolt thru, race face atlas chainset, xtr front mech, x 9 rear and shifters, juicy carbon 160 r and 185f, easton havoc stem, ea70 bars, ea50 stick with bel air saddle.All top bits really. Hitting in at 31.5 pounds.
Bottom Line:
Truly awesome. I reckon that it would be easy enough to get the weight down to around 27 pounds but mine is built to last and is near perfect.
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Allan
a Weekend Warrior
from York, North Yorkshire Date Reviewed: May 7, 2007
Favorite Trail:
any North Yoks Moors
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$2800.00
Purchased At:
no free ad here!!!!
Strengths:
Excellent ride, super geometry, easy to dial in. Makes you feel extra confident.
Weaknesses:
Rear mech hanger - £35 - come on SC this is extortionate!!!!
Similar Products Used:
Specialized rockhopper prior to the Heckler.
Bike Setup:
06 medium with dhx air 5.0, RS pike 426 coil, mavic 721 36 spoke on hope pro II bolt thru, race face atlas chainset, xtr front mech, x 9 rear and shifters, juicy carbon 160 r and 185f, easton havoc stem, ea70 bars, ea50 stick with bel air saddle.All top bits really. Hitting in at 31.5 pounds.
Bottom Line:
Truly awesome. I reckon that it would be easy enough to get the weight down to around 27 pounds but mine is built to last and is near perfect.
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Submitted by
Rudy
a Cross Country Rider
from Kutztown, PA Date Reviewed: April 16, 2007
Favorite Trail:
All that the Lehigh Valley offers
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1100.00
Purchased At:
Saucon Valley Bikes
Strengths:
Great Geometry, quick, nimble, brauny, stiff, DHX Air 5.0, balanced, sweet looks
Weaknesses:
I'm nervous about the paint, but hey, it's a friggin' mountain bike.
Similar Products Used:
Trek Fuel 90, Giant VT3(crappy paint too)
Bike Setup:
Bought the frame only and swapped most of the VT stuff w/ minor upgrades. Medium frame with the DHX Air 5.0, Minute :02 130mm coil fork(yes, coil), Mavic X223 w/XT hubs, LX/fr, XT/rr, PG970 cass, LX/crank/bb, LX/shift, Avid BB7 mechs w/160mm discs, Race Face post and stem/100mm, Easton EA70 bar, XTR cables/housings
Bottom Line:
Pinch Me! Ouch, I must not be dreaming. This is the BMW of bicycles. I'm telling all of you right now, if you are considering a Heckler, good for you....go get one! You will love it to death.
Before I continue I have to give some background. I had a difficult decision in the shop at the time of purchase. Do I go with a spanking new '07 and get the upgrade to the RP23 for the extra $90; OR do I get the '06 for $110 less and it has the DHX Air 5.0. If you have been paying attention you already know what I did, so this is a review on the '06 frame.
I used to be the guy struggling to keep pace going uphill, and have to pause for a breather before heading down. In my first 2 rides I have not only cruised uphill easily, but I lead, and then charge downhill screaming - both figuratively and literally. Speed with no side effects (like getting bounced offline) is addicting on this bike. Plush is a severe understatement on the DHX and the ProPedal is the best thing since twist off beer caps (Heckler has an opener just in case). The frame is super responsive when you hit the gas and work it through the boulder fields. I could go on and on and I've only ridden it twice. All I think about now is how soon I can get back on my Liquid Blue Heckler and flow.
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Submitted by
jeremy
a Weekend Warrior
from los angeles Date Reviewed: March 28, 2007
Favorite Trail:
sullivan canyon
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1700.00
Purchased At:
helen's cycles (santa monica)
Strengths:
really well rounded, great climber, great downhill. defines all-mountain.
santa cruz' deore all-mountain (D AM) kit: rock shox tora front fork, fox float rear, avid juicy 3's, mixed deore lx / xt componentry
Bottom Line:
the heckler D AM kit has been a dream to me. I was able to get a great santa cruz frame with some great componentry within my price range, which you can't really say about the blur lx. my only wish is that i could have gotten a fox fork, but the tora has been great to me so far so i can't even really complain about that.
i had one panic moment when i bought the bike because every time i climbed something single track and moderately steep, i would end up wheelieing out and have to walk. i dropped the stem all the way to to headset and cut the fork down and since then i have the perfect balance of being able to pick up my front end enough to place the bike where i want it to go, but also haven't had any problems keeping my weight over the bike while going uphill.
downhill its been a dream, i can keep up with my friend and his freeride bike down some dicey technical downhills and have been able to hit most everything that comes my way in the way of jumps / ledges. my heckler has taken everything i've put it through and i'm looking forward to a healthy relationship with this bike for years to come.
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Submitted by
drew
a Weekend Warrior
from NC Date Reviewed: March 17, 2007
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
frame only, built to my liking
Strengths:
SOLID, forgiving, encouraging, straight forward, easy to maintain, hard to damage, capable in an assortment of riding styles and conditions- most rounded bike I have ever owned.
Weaknesses:
none. really, it is a great catch-all ride. Not a light bike, but cracked frames and bending tubes are no longer a concern when riding anymore.
Similar Products Used:
a bunch
Bike Setup:
Minute :03 IT forks, Cloud Nine rear shock, XT Cranks/BB, Avid 203 mech disc, IRC Mibro 2.25UST front, Conti Gravity 2.3 rear (the conti is actually bigger, and both run tubeless via Stan's), SRAM X9 Med Cage rear, XT front...uh, thats about it
Bottom Line:
At 250+lbs I need a solid ride. Two years into my quest I returned where I first looked, w/ the Heckler. I wish I had my money back from all the mis-adventures, because this is where it is at. Every other frame broke under me.
The Heckler is a great handling bike, the only complaint is w/ MY set-up not with SC. I need a 20mm Thru-axle to finish off the best bike ever, as it would not be as twitchy in rough terrain. I love the Minute, but I will upgrade it to a 145-150mm fork w/ that axle option as soon as I find one that I really like.
For those of you wondering about the Cloud Nine shock- it is really nice and fits well with the Heckler. It only comes in a 2" stroke which is a shame because you lose an effective 1" of travel, but I don't really miss it. It is light and tough as nails- holding 240psi steady for a year now. I have come close to bottoming it out but never have (I don't think), and that was off of 4' to flat asphalt drops. The 5th Element is not a fair comparison to this shock, and because of user serviceability neither is Fox. Never tried a Manatou.
It took me all of 30 seconds to realize the trick to riding this bike- stay off the brakes and gently point down your line- the bike is capable of correcting your errors and keeping you upright through just about anything. All of the crashes I have endured happened when I second guessed what IT could handle. Not the same could be said about the other bikes I have ridden, which would buck you off on big hits, lacked proper geo to get you into a good position, or had either too great a head angle or too little for control to be maintained through varying conditions.
This bike is a star for a reason, and it is well deserved. If you are a big guy like me buy this bike with confidence.
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Michael
a Weekend Warrior
from Illinois Date Reviewed: March 12, 2007
I bought this frame in January of 03', and have yet to experience any notable issues. I have ridden badly in several states (of the union… not mind), on a variety of reasonably famous trails. The frame is in the same, mechanically sound condition that it was in when I bought it! Single pivot suspension is the way to go… unless you savor the intrigue of a multi-pivot ticking bomb, or live with a mechanic. If you simply can’t live with the performance (i.e. possible pedal bob) of the newer, stable platform suspension designs, then you should probably be riding a hard tail. I still use the OEM Fox Float AVA (with no Pro-Pedal features) with absolutely no complaints.
I would highly recommend the Heckler Pro-Pack as part of a yearly maintenance regime. I let mine go a little too long (okay… three years) and the pivot bearings were in pretty sad shape. $20 (on the Santa Cruz website) gets you all the necessary parts (and bearings) needed to overhaul the entire suspension. It’s worth every penny!
Speaking of maintenance, the technical support staff at Santa Cruz is phenomenal. I have needed their assistance on three or four separate occasions to double check some tuning and maintenance issues (my mechanical ignorance, not their designs). In each circumstance my e-mails and phone calls were returned in a very timely manner, with well-articulated instructions. Nice job guys!
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Bob
a Racer
from Toronto Ontario Date Reviewed: February 3, 2007
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
ABA
Strengths:
Frame Stiffness, Simplicity of Design, Bang for the Buck
XTR Drivetrain, Saint Double Cranks, Fox Vanilla RLC Fork, Progressive 5th Element, Hayes 7" discs, Sun SUV wheels, Kenda Nevegal 2.35 tires, Monkey Lite Carbon DH Bars
Bottom Line:
I've reviewed this bike before but feel that it deserves another. This is a 4 year old frame, so it was made in the USA before the shift to Taiwan when the popularity of the bike went through the roof.(following a review in MBE that elevated the frame to cult status) I'm suffering through a Toronto winter so the old Cruz is leaned up against the wall downstairs. I have freshened her up with new stem, bars, cranks, pedals, seatpost, and tires and cannot wait for Spring! I made the switch to a Saint Double Ring crankset. I knocked the teeth silly on my XTR Triple on a rock in Utah and Jenson had the Saints on sale for $149 before Christmas. Could'nt pass that up. With 2 rings and a bash guard the bike just looks better even though she gained a few ounces. I'll review the cranks after next summer.That cures the low bottom bracket issue for me.There really is no need for 3 rings on a bike like this anyway. Forget the weight and just ride. This bike will roll over anything as long as you keep the speed up. The suspension feels bottomless and the fork lockout takes care of your uphill business. I have not experienced the powder coat issues that a few others have mentioned. A couple of well placed lizard skin patches will prevent all the hose and cable rub spots. I chose white because it is way more forgiving when it comes to showing scratches. Last month's Mountain Bike Action reviewed the new Superlite from Santa Cruz. Take a close look. It's an exact clone of the Heckler, just built lighter. This ought to be proof enough for anybody that one pivot works. So now you have 2 choices, lite or chunky. The Heckler was discontinued by Santa Cruz but resurrected due to popular demand. Grab one now before the "next big thing" pushes these bullet proof frames into the museum of great mountain bikes. You won't be dissapointed. A bowl full of red chilis for my old friend.
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Robert
a Cross Country Rider
from Slovenia Date Reviewed: January 19, 2007
Favorite Trail:
juiceofsomejungguy
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
same as stated in my first review
Weaknesses:
Occasionaly (high logs and rocks) the bottom bracket is too low, but you get used to time your pedal strokes
Bike Setup:
Same as stated in my first review...except for: -Lizard skin grips changed with Raceface GoodNEvil (much better), cause the lizards were killing my hands -Maxxis HR DH 2ply 2*35 changed with Minion 1ply 2*35 (better for my style of riding)
Bottom Line:
The frame is holding up very good, except for some shock bolt noise which was remedied with overtorquing them (done by FOX rep.) and a funny feeling of rear flex, which also went away by itself after 100km. I bought a spare PROPACK just in case, but have yet too use it (seems fine for the moment). I have still to hone my riding skills before I can reach the max. potential of this bike, but getting closer every day :-) I have become a better rider since I bought the bike. Anybody who would like to use the bike as a true hardcore AM rig, with the occasional drop in between, should get it equipped with a DHX5 coil, since it complements the bike very well. A match made in heaven. All out adjustable, and once set up properly...PLUSH... Had too fiddle around with diff. coils (400/450/500) a little (came with #400 which turned out too be too weak) but the time spend fine tuning the shock is necessary if you want the most out of the bike!!!! If you fit the most heavy spring on it (at the right sag) with minimal preload, you get small bump compliance and a nice mid stroke fell despite the falling rate design. The Bottom out feature takes care of the final part of the stroke. I had good luck with the #450, which gets me the recommended sag with just 1/2 turn of preload above the minimal 1 turn. Had some conversations with other riders on Hecks and came too the conclusion that riders are often riding they're bikes with too stiff springs because of the lowish bottom bracket. But in doing so you loose a lot of the bikes magic feel (too little sag makes the bike ride higher but makes the first 1/4 of the stroke feel dead and uninspiring)
Current setup: Fully equipped rider = 103kg (app.225lbs) Shock spring - #450 Preload - 1 1/2turn in (from engaged) Piggy back - 130Psi Bottom Out - 2 turns from from lowest setting PP setting - UP/DOWN - 12 clicks from full off /7 from full off Since I ride self assisted AM/FR epics (2000m vertical / 60km loops) the PPD helps a lot on those parts of the climbs where "The going gets tough, and all other throw they're breakfast over the handle bar" ;) The TALAS 36 also helps make climbs less scary. All in all the bike is a cherry and worth every dime. Dont
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Mick
a Weekend Warrior
from Edinburgh Date Reviewed: December 4, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Glentress/Innerleithen
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$4500.00
Purchased At:
Alpine Bikes, Edinburgh
Strengths:
Versatility and Handling. Beats the competition by a long way.
Weaknesses:
Water gets inside the frame during the Scottish winter. Protecting the frame from cable scratching could be better.
Similar Products Used:
I also tested the Specialized Enduro, Cannondale Prophet, Nomad.
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz's XO All Mountain kit with Rock Shock Pikes and I changed the shifters (and thereore derailleur)for Shimano XTR. DXH Air Shock.
Bottom Line:
A real confidence booster and trail eater. I used to be a strictly XC singletrack rider on a lightweight and twitchy hardtail. After six months I am starting to nail six foot hucks, tabletops, rock gardens and a lot more speed. I am still way of pushing this bike near its limits. The Heckler has made mtb’ing so much more fun and opened my mind to whatever terrain I can find.
I noticed the extra weight uphill for the first couple of rides and was then used to it.
The DXH Air took me a while to fine tune, but it is worth it. Now with just a quick twist of the dial I can change the suspension so I feel I am one a different bike, while out on the trail.
The SRAM XO (and my additional XTR) gear and chain components have stood up to six months of mud, rain, dust and grime before I have had to make my first adjustment.
I have also had great service from my local bike shop, thanks all to Alpine Bikes.
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Mick
a Weekend Warrior
from Edinburgh Date Reviewed: December 4, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Glentress/Innerleithen
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$4500.00
Purchased At:
Alpine Bikes, Edinburgh
Strengths:
Versatility and Handling. Beats the competition by a long way.
Weaknesses:
Water gets inside the frame during the Scottish winter. Protecting the frame from cable scratching could be better.
Similar Products Used:
I also tested the Specialized Enduro, Cannondale Prophet, Nomad.
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz's XO All Mountain kit with Rock Shock Pikes and I changed the shifters (and thereore derailleur)for Shimano XTR. DXH Air Shock.
Bottom Line:
A real confidence booster and trail eater. I used to be a strictly XC singletrack rider on a lightweight and twitchy hardtail. After six months I am starting to nail six foot hucks, tabletops, rock gardens and a lot more speed. I am still way of pushing this bike near its limits. The Heckler has made mtb’ing so much more fun and opened my mind to whatever terrain I can find.
I noticed the extra weight uphill for the first couple of rides and was then used to it.
The DXH Air took me a while to fine tune, but it is worth it. Now with just a quick twist of the dial I can change the suspension so I feel I am one a different bike, while out on the trail.
The SRAM XO (and my additional XTR) gear and chain components have stood up to six months of mud, rain, dust and grime before I have had to make my first adjustment.
I have also had great service from my local bike shop, thanks all to Alpine Bikes.
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Matt Bagalso
a Weekend Warrior
from Nor*Cal Date Reviewed: November 27, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Demo
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$650.00
Purchased At:
ebay..
Strengths:
Single pivot, simple design, solid frame, fits me right....
Weaknesses:
none.. wala!
Bike Setup:
my bike is set up for trail riding.. Manitou Nixon plat..in the front. Fox DHX 5.0 coil on the rear..
Bottom Line:
I have used plenty of newer design suspensions and always seems to run into squeeking pivot problems.. (multi pivots design).. then this bike came along.. not an xc race frame but can be built for just about any set up you need.. I should've gotten one of these a while back.. Bike performs suprisinglly well uphill. and of course the descends are awsome, I've been clearing technical sections like I was on rails, eats up bumps and rocks... I feel like I'm cheating when I ride this thing.. Anyways, I dont mind the little weight going up(not that big of deal) as long as it tops it with a huge smile descending..
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dave
a Cross Country Rider
from boise Date Reviewed: November 3, 2006
Favorite Trail:
most of idaho
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
cbo
Strengths:
value, performance, reliability
Weaknesses:
none
Bike Setup:
as earlier review.changed fork to rockshox recon 351, set up as heavy duty trail bike.
Bottom Line:
much easier to climb with a pop-lok/lockout and travel reduction feature, did not see any reason to pay more for the flood gate option on their other forks it is so easy with the pop-lok remote one can change from full travel to lockout in a fraction of a second this fork really makes the bike so much more enjoyable to ride.
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helexia23
a Weekend Warrior
from Connecticut Date Reviewed: November 1, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Trumbull
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$700.00
Purchased At:
SpeedGoat.com
Strengths:
(I have the 1998 model) -Bullet proof -Excellent quality welds -Excellent quality paint (blue anodized, polished rear) -Handles very tight and quick -Very good santa cruz customer service -Even better Speed Goat service
Weaknesses:
(I have the 1998 model) -No replaceable dropout
Similar Products Used:
1996 GT LTS1, 1998 GT Karakoram
Bike Setup:
XTR, Race Face Cranks, Mavic Crossmax, Avid BB7 Disks
Bottom Line:
I have ridden this bike hard for 8 years and it keeps on going. I will probably never rid of this bike, although I have been eyeing the new Nomad. My only gripe is that it doesn't have a replaceable rear dropout, but this bike is a 1998 model and the whole rear is solid, it looks different than the new ones. I want to upgrade the rear shock, and also re-polish the whole rear soon. It is quality craftsmanship.
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Bo
a Weekend Warrior
from UK Date Reviewed: October 25, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Steep and technical singletrack
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
Stif
Strengths:
All round ability, strength, simplicity, riding position
Weaknesses:
maybe powdercoat isn't tough enough
Similar Products Used:
Blur, Dekerf and Kona hardtails
Bike Setup:
Pikes, carbon pedals and bars, Shimano XT drivetrain, mix Hope and DMR hubs, mavic 321 rim rear and 717 front
Bottom Line:
I've had this bike nearly 3 years now and it is the best. There some great bikes out there and I am intermittantly tempted but one great ride on the Heckler and I know there is no way I want any other bike (unless it was an extra bike of course....). Pivot bearings last 10-13 months and it does go through rear standard fox shock bushes (get some heavy duty ones from TFTuning) but that's it. Mine has the DHX Air shock, not everyone's fave but for aggressive XC it is perfect and the whole setup loves a good technical, rocky\rooty decent.
Climbing is OK, you will always get to the top and you won't get there last either.
Get one if you ride off road a lot and like to have some proper fun. I have riden it in Chamonix, Scotland and Wales and is always equal to the task, more so than me!
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Cobym
a Weekend Warrior
from San Juan, Philippines Date Reviewed: October 21, 2006
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$950.00
Purchased At:
local dealer
Strengths:
Versatile, simple and bombproof. Does it all.
Weaknesses:
if anything, its the decals on the anodized frame
Similar Products Used:
Giant NRS and trance, Titus Motolite (tried), various hardtails, etc
Bike Setup:
Manitou swinger 3way air shock, Fox Vanilla fork, SRAM and shimano, deore hydros, Raceface and Thomson cockpit, Ringle/DT/Mavic wheels wrapped with Nevegal UST's, etc.
Bottom Line:
The decals on my ano frame are falling off. But thats where my criticism of this bike starts and ends. SCB, to their credit, sent me a new decal set free.
This bike does it all. Even at around 31 lbs., it can climb at a decent pace, even compared to my current HT. Lots of traction. A great handling singletrack machine, handles twists and turns as long as you trust the bike. On sketchy technical stuff, just trust the bike, let go of the brakes and hang on. Downhills are a blast. Felt more solid in the handling and bump absorption department than the giants ive tried. The bike can even dirtjump. The motolite was quite nice too, but the numerous pivots had me wondering about when time came to service them. Oh yeah, I love the way it looks. Cant imagine any other bike beating it at this price.
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dave
a Cross Country Rider
from boise Date Reviewed: October 20, 2006
Favorite Trail:
any
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
cbo
Strengths:
performance, value
Weaknesses:
none
Bike Setup:
as earlier review
Bottom Line:
changed the fork out for a rockshox recon 351...what a difference...climbs a lot better now with the pop-loc remote and the travel adjustment set lower.
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