The Foes FXR has been a solid frame in our line for the past 4 years; it has been hailed as one of the best, stiffest and superior trail bikes of it's time. Now, with the 2:1 shock leverage ratio, this bike is on its way to becoming legendary.
Strengths: Stiff, handles well, feels well made, climbs exceptionally well, made in USA baby
Weaknesses: Heavy, expensive, some brake jack can be noted
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Once you ride this bike you understand what stiffness is all about, and how you can benefit from it. Corners well, goes where you want it, Curnutt is a bit stiff but its working while you don't even realize it. Nice short stays and geometry make handling short technical climbs a breeze. I've conquered some of the most difficult short technical climbs on this bike, while my 25 lbs XC can't manage. The build quality and stiffness+ curnutt make you a lot faster on the DH. This is pretty much the definition of an all mountain bike. You won't win any xc races or be the first to the top of the mountain, but when if you want to rule the DH and still climb back to the top, this bike is wonderful
Similar Products Used: Ibis Mojo SL, Intense 5.5, Moots cinco, Santa Cruz Tallboy
Bike Setup: 06 frame with curnutt ti, full XO, Fox Float 36, Mavic Dee Maxx wheels
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Submitted by
lookowt1
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego
Date Reviewed: July 19, 2010
Strengths: Stiff solid craftmanship, my 05 FOES. THe Curnutt XTD bar none is the best PERIOD. thenewer moncoque forming is a weight saver. Great warranty and tach support. Climbing and dohnhilling on equal par in perfomrnace for a suspension without a gimick (pro pedal/ lockout throwlever)
Weaknesses: Could save a weight weenie gram by anodizing the frame, Top tube sizing is fickle to long legged types dependant on bar length. greater marketing exposure to bring the price down a bit for a new one
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A top three boutique frame and Industry standard by which ALL others apsire to be. This is the closet to thing to all condition nirvana. I have been prvilaged to ride a many frmae setup and this is IT, the next best thing is a Santa Cruz Nomad and maybe just maybe a Intense. I rode my 05 FXR on 9 miler gut busting uphillers and off 6-9 foot boulders and rocky to rooted technicals. I rode a many a bike and found myslef not finding a rear suspension that could mate itself to al conditions. I moved back to a 09 2.1 and am only heaving more due to only the weight of the overall build if you want allmtn, invest in this!
Bike Setup: XTR, Mavic 819s, Hope mono, 2011Fox 36 float 160, Easton DH bar, SDG saddle, Kendas, Hutchinsons or WTB's in 2.25/2.35 sizes
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Submitted by
goldenballs
a Weekend Warrior
from cornwall, uk
Date Reviewed: July 3, 2010
Strengths: stiff, stiff, stiff! tight handling, fantastic suspension, pure craftmanship.
Weaknesses: short top tube on large size, poor uk support.
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I have worked in the bike industry for 15 years and have riddden many different suspension designs, but have always thought there was drawbacks with many of them. foes have got it sorted, simple single pivot with stiff link combined wih an awsome shock. the bike realy does every thing well. once you understand how to set the shock up then you really get the most out of it. the fxr climbs so well for a 30lb bike but is at its best on tight, fast singletracks where its stiffness comes into its own!
My only complaint is that for me (being 6'4+) that the top tube is a little short. i'm running a 90mm stem and the seat right back, but when the seat is up its just too short.
the other problem i've had that is on a recent trip to the alps, the shocks body started to unscrew loosing the air pressure mid way on a run.
Similar Products Used: cove g spot, lapierre spicy, orange patriot 66 xcel.
Bike Setup: xtd ti, 36 talas, mavic sx, formula the 1 10, monkeylite dh bars ,xt, hope bits, rubber queens.
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Diggy
a Cross Country Rider
from Aliso Viejo, CA
Date Reviewed: November 2, 2009
Strengths: The bike climbs so, so good. The slow speed platform is really rigid when climbing, almost zero movement. Coming from a RP23, the difference is night and day between the "pro pedal" setting to the curnutt which is far superior. When you do start pointing it downhill, the suspension starts soaking up everything. 6.5" goes a long way to increasing your confidence. Who would've thought that a bike that can climb so well can descend even better.
Weaknesses: My build is probably 3lbs heavier than light cross country/AM setups. I have Azonic Outlaws and middle of the road components, so nothing really feathery.
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If your looking at this bike you know that this bike has killer suspension, but what truly impressed me was the climbing. If you're a weight weenie, get the XCT5!
Similar Products Used: Specialized Stumpjumper FSR, Santa Cruz Blur
Bike Setup: I have an 09 FXR with a steel 300lb curnutt shock, 6'3 and 215 puts me in the range for a 350lb spring but setting the sag at 1" only required 3 turns on the 300lb spring. Fox 32 vanilla, SRAM x7/9. Azonic Outlaws and most importantly a gravity dropper 4" seatpost.
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Submitted by
m0ngy
a Weekend Warrior
from Adelaide, South Australia
Date Reviewed: May 16, 2009
Strengths: Perfect geometry for climbing or descending. Super stiff & strong, zero flex.
Weaknesses: None really (i got mine cheap).
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What an awesome ride. I loved every minute of my 5 years on the Heckler and was worried I'd be dissapointed with any other bike. Nope, uh-huh! The Foes is WICKED! It has a similar upright, neutral feel as the Heckler but with longer legs. The Foes' extra inch travel (from 5" to 6") on what is essentially a beefy single pivot XC bike is VERY noticable. Even with 6" travel front and rear the Foes climbs like a demon. It's heavier than the Heckler but climbs better. On-the-fly fork travel adjustment (such as Zocchi's excellent ETA system) helps keep the front end straight and steady on climbs.
It bombs down hills like it's on rails, so solid on the trail, amazing point-n-shoot confidence. The huge, over-engineered frame gussets, main pivot, and swingarm re-inforcement make the frame incredibly latterally stiff. Imho, Brent Foes simple yet elegant engineering solutions totally puts Santa Cruz, Ellsworth, Intense, and the like to shame! I suppose the Curnutt could offer a bit more small bump compliance, but it works very well when you really need it; climbing and the rough stuff. The Curnutt feels race bred, and absorbs big hits better than the Fox DHX or 5th Element ever did. When climbing it offers the perfect stable platform without pedal bob or tedious adjustment. The proprietary 'Curnutt clunk' takes a lil bit of getting used to, but is mostly harmless if slightly annoying at first.
This is a bike for (cashed-up) long time MTB connesseurs, who've put in the hard yards on aluminium hardtails over the years, who endevour to embrace the simple pleasures of life (without compromise), and believe you have to earn your downhill with a gutsy climb. Thanks Brent!
Similar Products Used: Santa Cruz Heckler, Santa Cruz Bullit
Bike Setup: 06 Foes 2:1 FXR (L) - Curnutt coil w/400lbs Ti spring, 08 55 ETA, X.0 drivetrain, Juicy 7's, XTR M960 cranks, Hope Pro2 - DT Swiss EX5.1d, Thomson post & stem, SDG Bel-Air Ti saddle, etc.
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Submitted by
joe_cool
a Weekend Warrior
from Lithia, FL USA
Date Reviewed: March 26, 2009
Strengths: No lies, the Air Curnutt is a dream! Pound the cranks and she feels like a hard tail. The weight is no issue because of how efficient this bike is. I climb everything with this bike that I did on my light weight cross country bike. It does help having adjustable travel on your fork for those extended or severe climbs.
Weaknesses: Not too many, she is dream. I could say that on the downhill It took some time to get used to the wheels not wanting to stay connected under breaking. Make some adjustments and all is good.
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Yes, you can say this is the Ferrari of mountain bikes but this is the real deal. If mountain biking is your passion don't pass on a Foes as you will not regret the ride.
Similar Products Used: Chumba Evo and Giant Reign.
Bike Setup: Rock Shox Lyrik Fork, Chris King wheel set, Race Face Atlas Cranks, Hope M4 breaks, King H.S., Truvativ World cup riser bar, XT drive train
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hardmtnbiker
a Cross Country Rider
from Pasadena,CA
Date Reviewed: January 20, 2009
Strengths: A solid handbuilt straight frame that is really a work of art. No crappy imported frame parts,bearings or rear shock.
Weaknesses: The frame cost as much as a complete asian import. But if your not into always flawwed,disposible bikes then that is not an issue.
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As soon as you climb you will see who really has found the "Holy Grail" of stable platform. This is the heaviest bike in my stable but still feels easy to climb because of the Curnutt. When you descend you will feel like that familiar trail seems easier and want to go faster than you can imagine. The bike goes where you point it and does not falter. If your mission is to get down that technical trail as fast and easy as possible then get this bike.
Similar Products Used: Titus Switchblade w/ Fox AVA and Talus RLC
Bike Setup: Curnutt coil Ti Spring .Marz 66 RC3fork. XT drivetrain. Bont. rythm wheelset. Thompson SP and stem. RF evole HB, Formula Oro 24K brakes. Oury lock-on grips. Kenda Neve rear and Blue groove fr. both 2.35
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drussellwilks
a Cross Country Rider
from Northampton, UK
Date Reviewed: October 17, 2008
Strengths: So far I am delighted with the frame and bike, very fast, both up hill and down, good platform shock. The bike looks fantastic and rides very easily. I have no problem getting the front up for jumps etc.
Weaknesses: It's quite expensive, the rear shock does seem to have a little stiction, but I think it's wearing in still.
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If you don't mind spending the money I cannot recommend this bike highly enough. Makes even me look like a half decent rider. A very versatile bike, true all mountain, and even quick on road too.
I think there are other bikes out there for less that will be nearly as good, but they will not be the same as the Foes.
Similar Products Used: MC San Andreas, Specialized Enduro, Klein Attitiude, Scott Scale 50
Bike Setup: Mostly XT components, Fox Vanilla at the front and Curnutt with Ti Spring at the Rear. XT Hubs 717 rims, Z Max Tyres
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Submitted by
zona
a Cross Country Rider
from scottsdale, az
Date Reviewed: October 14, 2008
Strengths: Amazing Climber (this thing is a goat!). Besides a great climber, it the downhill where you will enjoy a ton. I've own Foes frames since '02, but I have to say that this new frame is the best Foes has ever built!
Weaknesses: None! Okay, the price. You need deep pockets to build the perfect bike.
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IF you have the cash, still believe in supporting AMERICAN MADE and hand made, believe the Brent Foes is a genius, and want the ultimate ride, buy this frame. It's pricey no doubt, but it is worth every penny.
Similar Products Used: Foes FXC, Santa Cruz, Fisher.
Bike Setup: As every bike should start; Mavic Crossmax, carbon bar and seatpost, Easton Magnesium stem, X0 rear Derail, XRT front derail & cranks, Avid Elixer discs,
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Michael
a Weekend Warrior
from Boca Raton, Fl U.S.A
Date Reviewed: April 6, 2008
Strengths: Fit and finish, Build Quality, Attention to detail, That rear shock and man does she look sweet.
Weaknesses: None so far, except for maybe the price. It's a lot of ching but if you want to be a baller.....
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Bike was just delivered on friday and put 22 miles on it sat. I brought someone along with me and let them borrow my now Retired Bullit. About halfway through the ride I realized I was clearing everything and having an awesome ride. I could claw up any hill from a standstill and hit any drop like it didn't exist. I just figured I had that New Bike Smell feel going on. I decided to swap with my buddy on my Bullit on one of the trails. What a flaming piece of crap that Bullit was compared to my Foes. I would have traded the Bullit for a burrito at that moment. I demanded my Foes back and thats when I realized what three years in suspension advancement does to a mountain bike. The rear shock is so smooth and keeps the back wheel glued to the ground. The combination of the super stiff rear triangle and the Curnut shock make for the most incredible ride. I swear my Dragon has more back end waggle than the Foes. I always keep a hardtail around for when I go up in the mountains in N.C. for them really long 15 mile climbs but not anymore. I am going with one bike and really enjoy the way down. I will check back in three months and see if this Nirvana is still with me.
Bike Setup: Curnut coil with steel spring, Fox 36 Talas, Sram XO trigger and rear derailuer, XT cranks, Chris King Wheels, Chris King HS, Thomson Post and Neck, Easton carbon bars, 959peds, Kenda Nevegal 2.35, Avid Juicy Seven's
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george smith
a Racer
from longview Wa
Date Reviewed: March 22, 2008
Strengths: pedal efficiency,precise handling and balance,air shock is light & smooth
Weaknesses: none yet
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This bike was set up for Sea Otter DH,@ 33# with heavy tires&tubes. Dispite 38t, it trail rode great, and when forks are @ 110 it preformed awsome on our slalom course. I think Foes has a Do Everything bike that has no down side.
Bike Setup: 08 Fox 36 talas rc2,sram X0,hadley/atomlab wheels,sunline carbon&stem,Hayes Stroker, Gamut/38t single dura-ace27
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Darth Vader Amezcua
a Weekend Warrior
from Las Vegas, NV, USA
Date Reviewed: September 22, 2007
Strengths: Built bullet proof. Highest quality. Very impressed.
Weaknesses: None
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First serious full suspension bike I have ever owned. I was a bit concerned at first since I have always ridden hard tails, but one day was all it took to convert me over to full suspension bikes. I ride very aggressively and this bike can take whatever I can dish out. I have actually become a much better rider since buying this frame. My confidence and skill have increases 100%. I now take on obstacles and trails that I would have avoided with my hard tail. I will always ride Foes!
Weaknesses: A little heavy for a 6" travel bike, but that's where the strength comes from
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This is an excellent bike, strong, good climber, best customer service I have ever had, locally built and I will never buy a mountainbike from another company ever.
Similar Products Used: Santa Cruz, Ellsworth, Titus, Giant.
Bike Setup: If its cheap.. its not on it..
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Submitted by
mBeer
from Mill Valey, CA
Date Reviewed: July 18, 2007
Strengths: Quality, Beeootiful welds, the massive shock.
Weaknesses: kinda loud
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the Foes is a mean machine! Rock solid frame that soaks anything on the trail. Best hidden feature is how well this bike climbs. The combination of a laterally stiff frame and the Curnutt platform propels the bike forward with exceptional traction and efficiency. Downhill is a dream - smooth, stable and very accurate steering. Richard's bikes is an awesome dealer - very helpful with ordering (custom color),setup and dealing with warranty issues (Marzocchi). I would definitely recommend them as a retailer.