Submitted by
multistrada
a Cross Country Rider
from Austin Texas
Date Reviewed: November 8, 2011
Strengths: As mentioned many times - Super sweet ride quality
Weaknesses: none so far
Bottom Line:
Have a carbon fiber hard tail as well and the ride quality differential between these 2 bikes is astounding. The Jabber is both an excellent climber and a great smooth descender.
I also owned a Redline Monocog FLight 29er just prior to the Jabber and i really enjoyed it however what really stands out with the Jabberwocky is its silky smooth riding characteristics. I dont think it can be touched in this price range.
Similar Products Used: Redline Monocog FLight 29er
Bike Setup: Fox F29 RLC 100mm, Cane Creek S-8 headset, DT swiss 240s Hubs, RAce Face Duess cranks, XT Model BLM-775 disk brakes, THomson Seatpost, Sunline Handlebar and stem, Stans arch
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Submitted by
liers99
a Cross Country Rider
from Chattanooga, TN
Date Reviewed: October 23, 2011
Strengths: Pretty light for a steel frame. Decent geometry. Great pricepoint.
Weaknesses: None so far
Bottom Line:
Bought the bike used and was great buy. Rode 28 miles on it my first trip out. At first it was slow and clumsy cause I was trying to ride it like a 26er. Once I figured out how to throw it around the corners it flys. The harder you lean it the more it wants to lean. The way I have in setup its 24.5 pounds with pedals. Not bad for a steel bike. Very impressed with the ride and can't say anything bad about the frame.
Bike Setup: Stans Arch with ZTR hubs and Maxxis Crossmark, Fox F29 RLC 80mm fork, Hayes Stroker brakes, Thompson seatpost and stem, Truvativ stylo crank, 32-19 gearing
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Submitted by
Smidy
a Weekend Warrior
from Charleston,WV
Date Reviewed: October 2, 2011
Strengths: Great geometry! Big enough that my 6'5 220lb body fits it. climbs great, ESP with the 32' deity black label bars for leverage!
Weaknesses: Paint scratches easy
Bottom Line:
This bike has made me a much better rider, I spared no expense and it Is an absolute monster, i feel like it could climb up a tree. A little slow to get going but I'm sure thAt is due to the Ardents, going to run them through the winter and switch to small block 8's. Also going to try to get an Odis fork for winter riding, Vassago is a cool company and they make a great frame, I get lots of questions and looks on this bike, truely unique! I highly suggest for anyone who wants to improve their skills, and for the a few who Are just sick....a good way to embarrass those carbon riding tight wearing elitist.
Bike Setup: Thomson stem and post, Deity black label bars, SRAM xo brakes, 34 in the front and 20 in the back, race face am crank, Chris king hubs and bottom brAcket, Stans flow rims and maxxis Ardents, Reba rlt ti with 80mm travel.
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Submitted by
Flat Ark
a Cross Country Rider
from Bella Vista, AR
Date Reviewed: September 10, 2011
Strengths: One of the lightest steel frames that I have found anywhere close to this price point. Super smooth ride for a hard tail. I've had a couple of Salsa Dos Niners and this bike "really is" just as smooth as the Dos! Great looking finish/styling! The horizontal dropouts are nice and simple as well as being light weight!
Weaknesses: I really haven't found any. I initially had trouble with my rear wheel staying centered but a used $10 Shimano XT skewer off of Ebay remedied that!
Bottom Line:
This is a VERY smooth riding frame! You definitely feel like you are riding "in the bike".
Personally I didn't like how long/low the bike felt. I prefer my bikes to feel a little more nimble/XC'ish but I didn't want to give up on the bike because I really liked how smooooooth it rides so I tried it with an 80mm Reba Race fork, a Salsa El Mariachi fork, a Niner Carbon fork and finally a DT Swiss Rigid fork. The handling with the first 3 forks really felt pretty much the same from one fork to the next. The DT Swiss however made this bike feel completely different. The bike feels much more compact and I am back to having more of a "perched on top" feel but the rear end of the bike is still super smooth. All in all I'm really happy with the bike now!
Bike Setup: Medium frame, DT Swiss Carbon fork "rigid", Bontrager RXL Wheels, Geax Seguaro TNT Tires, Thompson Post, Raceface Deus Stem, FSA SLK Bar, Formula Oro K18 Brakes, Oury Grips, Sette Carbon Barends, Salsa Clamp, Ritchey WCS Headset, Selle Italia SLK Saddle
Weaknesses: Have to tighten the rear QR super tight to keep it from slipping, even with the better chain tensioners. Problem could be easily solved with a bolt on rear hub, but I don't have one... Wish there was clearance for a 2.4" tire plus mud in the rear.
Bottom Line:
This was the first 29er I bought. I like it a lot. It's the only bike I've kept for more than two years so far. It is super stable on the descents due to the long-ish wheelbase, easily scoots up technical climbs, and is fun to play around on in rocky sections. Every time I ride this bike it puts a smile on my face. That's the best review a bike can have. I do wish I could put a 2.4" tire in the rear though. 5 chilis for value ($550 for frame and fork is great) and 4 for overall because of the lack of huge tire clearance.
Weaknesses: Tad Heavy compared to AL, TI, or carbon frames
Bottom Line:
After reading reviews and comparing the geometry, I was a septic. They were selling the frames 1/2 off so I pulled the trigger on one. This bike handles really well absorbs hits like a full suspension. Handles way better than my E.M.D. and monocog. It's a tad heavy, but After a 25 + miler in the rough desert terrain, I feel refreshed and ready for more. Perfect ride for endurance 24hr racing.
Similar Products Used: Niner E.M.D., Redline Monocog
Bike Setup: Single Speed
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Submitted by
secretary7
a Cross Country Rider
from Amarillo, Tx
Date Reviewed: December 13, 2010
Strengths: Climbs like a squirrel attached to a taser. Absorbs bumps better than some of my buddies soft-tails. With a suspension fork it's a solid 24hr racing machine...I know I did it. When I get up on top of the gear and really get motoring it'll ride like it's on rails and will roll over everything mostly.
Weaknesses: None that I can find. The paint does scratch easily. Initially it handled a little clunky but once I got the hang of riding "in" the frame vs. flicking it around like my old aluminum hardtail It's a beast. It's not as light as my old alu. hardtail but going SS and rigid makes it almost weigh as much.
Bottom Line:
It's the boss. In fact that's what I call it "The Boss." Man up and ride steel. You won't regret it.
A buddy of mine owns a shop near Little 5 Points, and he built this bike up for me. The wheelset, fork, and frame being considered, this was an amazing value for the price paid. I'm extremely pleased with the bike, and have raced it at a few of my local races this year...to many stares and questions as 29er's are somewhat new here, and SS rigs are all but non-existent.
The bike's geometry is truly unbelievable. I tell folks you "sit in" the bike, not "on it" (although I may have read that somewhere, it seems to work). Regardless, the bike has an outstanding ride quality.
Extra points for rollin' a steel bike in a sea of carbon rigs as well!
Strengths: A Great frame for the $$! My $645 got me the Jabberwocky frame and ODIS fork. This frame is fairly light for a steel frame - The horizontal dropouts save a lot of weight over a bike with an eccentric bottom bracket.
The ride quality of this frames is very nice. I can handle tight singletrack on this guy just as well as I could on a 26" wheel. IT also seems to climb well when seated...just slide foreword a little and give 'er!
Weaknesses: The stock chain tensioners are terrible. I quickly ordered a set of Jabbernuts and now it's all good.
Customer service - they returned my first phone call, but none since.
Bottom Line:
I highly recommend this frame and for to anyone who is interested in a single speed. Switching from a couple of cheap singlespeeds to a truly nice, well made bike has make a huge difference in my riding. It handles great, looks sharp, and won't break the bank.
Strengths: Wetcat Geometry. Long, low, and fast. Steel suppleness
Weaknesses: Haven't found one yet.
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I have been riding a four inch squishy for 3 years then I bit the 29er hook and picked up the Jabberwocky. I really wanted something different than what I have been riding. I pieced the bike together with all the parts that I really wanted and I could not be happier with how it turned out.
The steel frame in absolutely gorgeous and the ODIS fork is super stiff. On my first ride I could not believe how well this bike could handle the singletrack here in Marquette, also how amazingly this frame can accelerate on the flats and going up hill, I feel like Contador when I rocket up hills passing all my riding buddies. My second ride on the bike was the Ore-to-Shore epic here in Marquette(if you havent done this race do it!) and I was amazed again by how well it accelerated and handled the trails.
I also could not be happier with the single speed setup I have on this bike, 34/16. The brakes are a wonderful addition, as is the carbon bar taking away some of the vibration.
The bike is fantastic as a rigid, however if you ride some really brutal single track I would recommend throwing some squish in the front.
So bottom line, if you want to try a single speed 29er, buy this bike! You won't be disappointed. If you ride smooth XC ride the rigid, if you do some rocky Single track get some squish. Have fun and go ride!
Bike Setup: jabberwocky frame and ODIS fork, Avid Elixir R SLC, 185mm and 160mm rotors, Raceface Evolve stem, Raceface NEXT carbon bar, Ergon grips, WTB rims on XT hubs, Truvativ Stylo seatpost 30mm offset, Fizik Tundra saddle, Raceface Evolve SS crank/bb, and Nevegals.
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Submitted by
mtnmadman
a Cross Country Rider
from Gallup, NM, USA
Date Reviewed: July 23, 2010
Strengths: Light weight, light weight, light weight! Like others have said, climbs like a goat! Extremely well balanced. On the fence between the 16" and the 18", decided on the 16", glad I did (I am 5'9", 180lbs).
Weaknesses: Tire clearance, barely have enough space for 2.2 Nevegal's, No big deal, I have a Kenda small block eight 2.1 for desert riding
Bottom Line:
If you have been obsessing about this frame, just pull the trigger. After that first ride you'll be lamenting the rides you could have taken while you were thinking about buying this frame.
Similar Products Used: None, this is my first SS mtn bike, and 29 er', though I did demo a Salsa El Mariachi.
Bike Setup: SS 32X18, Chris King headset, Thomson seatpost and stem, Titec H-bar, Avid BB7 brakes, Surly Mr. Whirly crankset and bearings, Crank Bros eggbeaters, Handspun Wheelset (Surly Hubs, Mavic m719(?)), White Bros Rock Solid carbon fork, Kenda Nevegal 2.2's.
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Submitted by
tap
a Cross Country Rider
from Fort Collins, CO USA
Date Reviewed: April 30, 2010
Strengths: Inexpensive, well built, great finish, well thought out design, relatively light build at just over 23#
Weaknesses: None that I've identified yet
Bottom Line:
Blast to ride, simple, climbs much better than you'd think, looks great, low maintenance. SS riding is great training...full body workout. Riding rigid refreshes technical riding skills that full-squish bikes obliterate. With the Jabberwocky I think Vassago has hit a home run...fun, good quality, low price, great vibe. No reason not to buy one.
Bike Setup: XT hubs, Stan's Arch rims, Maxxis Ignitors, Thomson stem and post, White Industries ENO crank (180mm, 32T), Elixir CR brakes, King headset and cog (have both 20T and 18T), Easton Monkeylite bars, Carbon Cycles Exotic carbon fork
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Submitted by
rightangler
a Cross Country Rider
from Vienna, Va
Date Reviewed: February 11, 2010
Strengths: strong, light weight, and responsive
Weaknesses: none frame is money
Bottom Line:
Bike is really nice cant complain about anything perfect for the beginner rider or the experienced one.fram is under 500 new with a fork which i think is a good price for the quality of vassago frames.
Similar Products Used: el mariachi, gt peace 9er, fishers, and many more
Bike Setup: Fixie build (SO SEXY) with philwood hubs on mavic rims, odis fork white industries cranks,hope headset bb7s, fr5 levers, monkey lite bars, thompson stem and seatpost,lizard skin north shore grips
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Submitted by
nachomc
a Cross Country Rider
from Sacramento, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: January 9, 2010
Strengths: Beautiful frame, great geometry, great feel
Weaknesses: I had to manually grind the adapter (width) for the rear disc brake. When I spoke to Addictive, they indicated this was common for Avid and Shimano disc brakes.
Bottom Line:
I had the bike finished on my birthday in April and rode it exclusively all summer (over 100 hours of riding). I took it on the famed Rubicon trail in Northern California, my favorite trail in Tahoe and all of my local rides. It was comfortable from day one, competent as can be on everything I've ridden and an excellent frame. It looks great, feels great and rides great. I get compliments on rides, to the point that it's getting old (how snobby of me). The bike is just plain cool. I'm tempted to replace my full suspension bike with a bandersnatch configured as a hard tail.
Similar Products Used: Test rode a Karate Monkey briefly, but no real seat time.
Bike Setup: ODIS fork, Stans Arch rims (XT hubs, which are meh), XT brakes
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Submitted by
nicco2go
a Cross Country Rider
from Santee, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: July 14, 2009
Strengths: Best bang for the buck; no it didn't cost 10k although I would hold it up against bikes that do.
Weaknesses: New elixir rear brake made the frame vibrate like no tomorrow. Switched it out with Juicy 7. Still vibrates from time to time but now more tolerable.
Weakness too is that I can only give it 5 chilis.
Bottom Line:
I got hooked on SS 29ers buying a GT Peace Niner from Craigs List for $200. After careful consideration, Vassago won out but ultimately, I am the winner. Got rid of my 26" FS all together; the only geared bike I have is my road bike now. 38x20 gets me up nearly anything in SD; even Mission Trails (crazy steep and loose in certain parts).
The most fun I've had on a bike in a long time and to quote another reviewer, the bike simply fits me. The best part is the simplicity; no gears, no decision. Either I gut out the climb or walk like a wuss. Either way, I don't feel like a loser at the top of the climb. if I make it, I made it on an SS. If I don't make it, it's because I'm on an SS.
I may get a geared 29er in the future but for now, I love the sound of dirt breaking beneath my tires, getting out of the saddle, and using body English to clear obstacles. It's a full body work out not to be taken lightly.
Speaking of lightly, I've lost 23 lbs since I got this rig. Ask me how..... kidding.
Similar Products Used: SS frames out there... those who know; know.
Bike Setup: Thomson Stem and Seatpost, WTB Laser disk front and back (SS specific), WTB saddle, Race face riser bar, ODI grips with Cane Creek bar ends (installed backwards), Chris King headset and BB, Juicy 7, Race Face evolve Cranks 38t, Surly rear cog 20t, Maxxis Ignitor front and rear 2.1.
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