Trek Sawyer 29er Hardtail
|MSRP : $1499.99|
Product DescriptionCan't decide between form and function? Good news: you don't have to. Sawyer is the perfect blend of rippability and retro styling. Custom-butted Platinum Series chromoly steel, 29er, G2 Geometry, split dropout and Chromoly steel w/custom geometry, 51mm offset, suspension correct axle to crown, disc brake mount Front suspension.
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Date Reviewed: July 13, 2015
Strengths: Handles well down hill with great bar/stem/fork combination. I'm 6'3" 250lbs with long arms.
Weaknesses: Most of the Weaknesses are component based, but cable stops are lousy for ferrule support (or stock length is to long) result is the same with broken ferrule. Seatpost finish and seat tube finish allow seat post to twist sandpaper rough up required. Fork drops are difficult to get front axel in and out (lousy clean up on production side). Broke Shimano freehub after two months but those have always been poor quality for a 250lb rider. Finish on rear split frame allows axle and dropout to slide forward. stock tires were thin and sidewall was cut after just a few trial rides. The 10 speed set up would be better served with triple up front and 7 or 8 speed thread on freewheel than an over taxed freehub taking all the torque trying to turn 29" wheels. This bike like most pre-assembled bikes really needs to be taken apart and dialed in. (which means making sure grease was used properly, surfaces that need to stay put are prepared to do so, rim strips actually cover the spoke holes, cable lengths are cut properly, etc. most bike shops just finish assembling and hope for the best.
Date Reviewed: August 12, 2012
Strengths: Generous components, Good breaks and hardware, plenty of room for the biggest tires, smooth frame, the paint holds up well and the battleship grey hides any scratches
Weaknesses: The hubs, at first the split dropouts are fustrating to adjust, tires are only good for cyclocross or some fire road, I have had a few trips back to the store with a defective rim, broken crank retension bolt
Duration Product Used: 6 months thus far
Price Paid: $1100.00
Purchased At: Sunshine cycles
Similar Products Used: Trek cobia 2011, going through complete overhaul
Bike Setup: Stock crank breaks wheels handlebar stem and seatpost clamp. Deore hubs surly chainring crank brothers candy, ergons, nier yawyd cap, rockshox recon with poploc, maxxis ardents, kmc ultimate ss chain, wtb speed v, Cane creek thudbuster, Shimano aluminum skewers,origin 8 redcrainring bolts, origin 8 cassette spacers, bontrager 5mm cages.
Date Reviewed: July 19, 2012
Strengths: Looks great. Rides fast. Handles well. Stops well. I love this bike. I estimate I climb a beast of a hill near my house 25% more efficiently than with my full suspension.
Weaknesses: Stock gear changing stuff sucks. I went all new SRAM X-9s. Much better. Disk brakes scrape alot when I'm just riding around, and when I turn it gets worse momentarily. Shouldn't be rubbing already. (even right after my free "tune" from the bike store I bought it).
Heavy. But so is the fat around my gut.
Date Reviewed: May 8, 2012
Strengths: 2012 model has a great paint job, durable and a nice shade of bronze. Good departure from the battleship gray. Because of the split chain/seat stay, I converted it to a belt-drive by Gates (32x20) The frame is steel so it flexes like steel. Old school design is eye catching and people don't realize that its a true mountain bike, rigid and singlespeed until they stop and take a good hard look.
Since Trek runs longer on the top tube, I opted for a 17.5" frame and a 100mm / 0 rize stem by Thomson and a CF handlebar with a 3/4 inch rise. I stand 5' 10" and the bike feels nimble in both standing and seated efforts. The stock 2.25 tires provide some relief on rocky trails.
The 51mm offset fork puts the weight of the rider slightly behind center of the front tire giving the bike a very stable feel at any speed. I can often ride no hands on fire roads at slow speed (less than 10mph) just to illustrate the stability.
Weaknesses: Even with the carbon drive system by gates, CF handlebar, Thomson stem, this bike is heavy and is a beast to climb with as a singlespeed. Having said that though, I am still running the stock wheelset and stock tires. Stock wheels and tires are a pain and despite their 'tubeless ready' status, the tire is not tubeless specific and you the rim strip it came with was so poorly installed that I kept getting flats because the rim tape kept folding over and exposing the spoke holes. Using Velox cloth rim tape now and that works really well.
Once I change wheels and tires, I have no doubt it will be a bit more fun to point it uphill.
Last I checked the weight is right around 25lbs. Not bad for all that steel.
Trek retailers, for some odd reason, want to push you into the 'size' based on your height. Every place I went told me to go with the 19". Longer top tubes are unique to Trek and despite 'expert' advice, I went with the 17.5" (I am 5'10") Best decision ever! Bike weighs just slightly less (less metal) and it didn't feel 'too big'.
On the trail, as a singlespeed, the bike soaks up bumps reasonably well for a steel frame. As far as flex, sure it does quite a bit of that but I'm glad it does and it doesn't flex so much that you lose power in your pedal stroke, not that I can feel anyway. I upgraded the crankset to Shimano Saint and that gave it a stiffer feel under effort. CF handlebars and a Thompson stem gave the handling a bit more responsiveness more so than the stock Crivitz handlebar (mustache bars) Bontrager 90mm stem / 6 degree rise.
Bottom line, between my Sawyer and my Specialized Stumpjumper, if it's less than a 2.5 hour ride, I often grab my Sawyer unless of course there's a lot of climbing involved. I like that it's unique and I often tout it as my converted beach cruiser. Only true SS / MTB riders can size up the geometry and the parts on it and know that it's a full on cross county machine.
My favorite part is riding up hills with buddies on full suspension bikes and beating most of them to the top. They beat me downhill of course but I don't mind. Don't get me wrong, I have a full suspension Stumpjumper with a 2x10 drivetrain so technology comes in handy when I'm on long half day / all day jaunts.
Most of the time though, I like the purity of an uncomplicated, really quiet bike. Being rigid, riding the Sawyer helps me spot better lines and being singlespeed, it helps me with big effort gnashing of teeth and legs climbing and helps develop a really efficient spin on flats and rollers. All skills that benefit me when riding my full suspension bike.
Ultimately, I didn't get this bike to be a weight weanie. I bought this bike so that it will be my go-to bike as long as it holds up. Eventually, the shocks on my FS bike will leak, the derailleurs will need replacing and long after I retire it or sell it on craigslist, I will still have this trusty steed to tool around on with my family or tearing up local singletrack trails with my buddies. It's functional in all arenas of riding and boy is it simple to maintain and operate. Should you get one? If you like bucking the norm and like an uncomplicated bike, perhaps you should. It does come stock with 2x10 drivetrain (2012). It's been a great ride and I probably put more miles on it than my Stumpy. At least that's what my GPS says. Of course, when I like to just go and ride, no computers, GPS, phone or music, this is the bike I grab.
Nothing beats the sound of breaking dirt beneath your tires!!! Happy trails y'all!!!
Date Reviewed: January 3, 2012
Strengths: Feels like a softtail with all the metal on and around the seatpost tube. Beautiful frame creates many compliments and belt drive capability.
Weaknesses: a bit heavy but you don't notice when you ride it. A bit low on the bottom bracket since I now hit stuff with my pedals when I never did before
The reason this cost me only $38 bucks is it was a warranty replacement after breaking my Ferrous which I also liked. I have broken many bikes all in the same spot which is the weld right at the seatpost top tube junction so I hope with all this steel meeting in that same spot, 5 different weld spots, it will hold up to my abuse.
I might go to beltdrive this spring but not totally sure.
Last thing I do strike pedals on stuff which I never do before I assume it is due to the lower bottom bracket. Oh one last thing this has horizontal dropouts and my previous SS had EBB which I had no problem with but the horizontal needs to be tended to more often which is not a big deal just have to remember to give everything a tighten before every other ride.
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Purchased At: 38.00
Similar Products Used: Trek Ferrous, GF RIG, Trek Paragon
Bike Setup: SS setup with Fox fork Bonty duster wheels and sram crankarms and sram low riser handlebars, BB7 brakes.
Date Reviewed: January 1, 2012
Strengths: Style, flexibility in your setup (geared or SS, chain- or belt-drive), some very decent stock components (bar/stem/saddle/seatpost/crank/rims), smooth ride, and did I mention style?
Weaknesses: These are all nit-picky: weight (even though it only bothers me when I read comments complaining about it), some lower-end stock components (Deore hubs, X5 shifters, stock grips, Juicy brakes), fork is heavier/stiffer than it needs to be, no 1x9 or SS factory option, long-cage derailleur stock instead of medium-cage, extra horizontal tube limits the size of water bottles that you can carry, people constantly asking me what kind of bike it is.
It’s perfectly rideable in stock form, but look at all the pictures of them and you’ll notice that nobody keeps them stock for long. The frame is obviously the soul of the Sawyer: it's as close to custom as you'll get from something that's mass-produced, and the welds on mine look good. There is a run in the paint on my seat tube, but it's not noticeable enough for me to worry about. The split stays allow you to go with a belt-drive, and I haven’t had any issues with the swinging dropouts other than there not being a lot of clearance between the frame and skewer. The Crivitz bar is comfortable for me and I have no plans on swapping it out, but the 25 degree sweep may be a big much for some. The stock grips are way too thin and hard for my liking. The stock stem is highly decent, but it looked out of place with the silver faceplate and I replaced it with something a little beefier. The stock saddle and seatpost are also surprising decent. I found the little ring to be useless and ditched the front derailleur and shifter, and wish that Trek sold these as 1x9's and used that money to upgrade the Deore hubs to something a little more durable (they’re holding up fine for now, but I know their day is coming). The Duster rims are holding up well and certainly look the business once you de-sticker them. The stock tires aren’t bad, but I guess I can complain that they’re wire beads. The Juicy brakes were replaced with BB7's immediately based on past experience. The Firex crank is quiet and spins like a fan (no problems with the BB so far). The X7 rear derailleur is working fine, but the long-cage looks ridiculous and isn’t necessary with the factory 2x9 set-up. The 12-36 Shimano SLX cassette is good if you need that kind of gearing, but I swapped it for a 11-32 SRAM PG990 and cut 1/3lb in the process. Overall it's a decent package that was likely put together by a committee: it's not the ideal bike for anyone in stock form, but with a little work you can make it into the ideal bike for you (within the limitations of a 7lb hardtail frame, of course).
Similar Products Used: Several 80’s and 90’s vintage steel-frame bikes, Cannondale Caffeine, Haro Ally.
Bike Setup: 1x9 using stock crank & 32 tooth chainring, SRAM PG990 cassette (11-32), BB7 brakes with SD7 levers, ODI Rogue grips, Race Face stem, Salsa Flip-Off skewers/seatpost.
Date Reviewed: October 24, 2011
Strengths: looks, comfort and stability, versatility
Weaknesses: brakes and tyres
I have to say it makes a big difference to a normal hardtail. I'm no weight weannie, at 6'1 and 15 stone and ended up with a medium for comfort. I am able to climb easily with the fast xc lads, great on single track, lacks a bit of lightness on the front end for technical trails but that maybe the bars or me getting used to bikes riding differently.
to sum up - great fun and loving it. it will never be my mojo, but it is winter!!
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid: $650.00
Similar Products Used: first ever owned 29er. demoed hifi pro and singular
Date Reviewed: September 26, 2011
Strengths: Unbreakable. Fast (going dh due to its weight). awesome handling. G2 geomtery is the next big thing as it really provides smooth and efficient steering response.
Weaknesses: Heavy as tank. the fork is very stiff (like zero flexibility). that is why a wider/fatter front tire is recommended in order to add comfort to arms and wrists.
I use this bike as my weekday urban warrior and trail-ninja on weekends/holidays.
This is the bike that will surely last until forever and a day. :)
Price Paid: $1650.00
Purchased At: Trek Store Rokko
Similar Products Used: GT Avalanche 3.0
Bike Setup: 17.5" frame. Single speed 32/18. 50mm Thomson stem. Schwalbe Big Apple 2.35 tires for F/R, Titec J-bar, Ergon Grips GX1, Selle Italia SLR TT,
Date Reviewed: September 10, 2011
Strengths: Looks, steel frame, split sliding dropouts, frame warranty, smooth.
Weaknesses: Heavy and cheap stock components
Purchased At: American Cycle and F
Similar Products Used: Haro V-4
Bike Setup: Trek Sawyer, RST M-29 fork, XTR rear Der, shimano brakes, Deore LX STI shifters, carbon bars, ESI grips, Tubeless.
Date Reviewed: August 19, 2011
Strengths: Smooth ride, G2 Handling, Great Looks
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Purchased At: Flythe Cyclery
Similar Products Used: GT Peace 9r
Bike Setup: Mostly Stock, switching back and forth between Crivitz bar and a low-rise bar. I also put a triple crank on it to facilitate riding on pavement.
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