Strengths: Easy to build up. Quality is excellent for the money paid. Heavy like a Tank. Rides much more nimbly though.
Weaknesses: Running the full length housing creates a nice sealed system, but a muchy feeling at the brakes. Not an issue if you have hydraulics.
One quibble is regardless of the collar I used the seat post slips a little which suggests the tolerances were not exact. A little grip paste cured the issue immediately.
From a performance standpoint, my only beef is when I really stomp on the gas I can get enough flex to ghost shift the rear end, but in reality all of my steel bikes will do that so not a big deal really.
Built this as an all season commuter, but have been guilty of taking it on the trails often. It is built as a full rigid 2x9 drop bar mountain bike.
A little over 500 miles on it and it just makes me smile.
I just don't know where you can find more bike for this kind of money.
I've had no issues with this frame whatsoever. Horizontal 'dropouts' have worked as advertised, with no slipping using a QR rear hub. I use this as my bad weather and winter rig, built up with spare parts I had around. Even so, this bike has been more than capable and super fun to ride.
I have noticed some surface rust under the top tube gusset - I think the frame finish did not fully make it under the narrow slot. I treated with some paint just in case - doubt it would be an issue since it's on the surface, but it's no fun seeing rust on a new frame.
Mine seems put together fine, but I've heard others had issues with weld quality and frame symmetry. Not sure if that's still an issue on the newer frames - I certainly don't have any.
Of course it's heavy but at least you know that going in.
Strengths: steel, short chain stays, versatile, nice paint
Weaknesses: slotted rear a bit of work, not light
I wanted to build an affordable SS 29er. The Scout was my start. I am impressed by how both sporty and smooth this bike rides. I run Flows and low PSI tires which has to help with the smoothness, but all the same, it's smoother than other bikes I've owned with the saw wheel/tire treatment. This bike does just what I need it to: it allows me to go on short rides close to home that only have sprint climbs. I ride it rigid. The only drawbacks to this frame that I can see is that the rear wheel R/R demands some time and effort. The brake needs to be loosened and then re-positioned. It is also heavy, but what does one expect at this price point. The frame has wildly exceeded my expectations in terms of ride and even appearance. It has, over time, become a poor man's frame with mid-life crisis build. At times I want to get a Nimble 9 and change my components over, but feel that it would be an unnecessary use of funds. The origin 9 Scout does what it's supposed to. It makes me happy just to look at it, and even happier to ride it.
Strengths: Price, now comes with rigid fork, overall quality very high, easy build, did I mention price?
Weaknesses: Heavy, doesn't have lively "Steel" feel, zero bling factor.
Reviewing the 2012 Origin8 Scout 29er frameset with fork. I purchased this frame to replace a tweaked Kona Unit frame. I paid a little over $300 at my LBS. I was shopping this against a Surly Ogre or Karate Monkey, and just couldn't justify the additional cost for the Surly.
My Kona was set up with a Marzocchi 44 MicroTi fork with QR15 axle. Since I'm not running a 9mm axle, I can't use the Origin8 fork that came with the frame, but that's not really a problem.
Now for the real review. I'll give you the bottom line first: I don't like this frame as much as the Kona. It's heavier, and just doesn't have the snappy, lively feeling the Kona had.
I'm running it as a single-speed. The track-ends with integrated tensioners are OK. Certainly not as slick as the sliding vertical dropouts on the Kona, which allow you to keep your chain tension setting while still able to remove the wheel. But, they're simple, they work, and with an XT skewer, my wheel has been holding fine without having to resort to a solid nutted axle.
I like that it has cable stops and a derailleur hanger, so I can run it geared if so desired. Not sure I ever will, but having the option is nice. Paint and decals are quite good. I'm not in love with the routing for the rear disc brake down the bottom of the downtube -- seems a little exposed, but it hasn't been an issue so far.
Overall, the bike rides fine, certainly better than I have any right to expect for such an inexpensive build. I would certainly recommend this frameset to someone looking for a budget-build SS 29er. I wouldn't put one up against a Niner SIR9, but they're not really in the same market segment, are they?
Weaknesses: not the greatest looking welds, but... who cares?! my welds don't look awesome all the time either and they hold up just fine...
I bought a complete single speed version, brand new from a LBS for $325. i rode it for twenty seconds in the parking lot and bought it; i've swapped out the stem and bars for bontrager rxl bits, tektro auriga comp hydro disc brakes and got the stock maxxis ignitors set up tubeless. ths bike has been a dream! single speed and twenty-niners are new to me- (i never rode bmx when i was a kid even) i'm just as fast as i am on my turner burner FS... which is now going up for sale! I've hadno problems with the sliding dropouts, brakes or chain tension and the 17" frame with a 70mm stem is fitting me great at 5'-08"
a All Mountain Rider
from LAS VEGAS NV
Date Reviewed: March 24, 2012
Strengths: strong, light weight, QUIET!
Weaknesses: "black ops" logo
This is my first 29er and my first single speed bike. The frame geometry forces you to ride a little "bound up". If you are tall and lanky, you may want to consider a different bike. I am a short stout rider so it is perfect.
I have only upgraded the grips to oversized grips (blueskycycling.com) to ease the amount of stain on my fingers/hands cause by long periods of trail chatter.
Strengths: Short chainstays - super easy to pop up the front end (for a 29er), tucks in rear wheel for SS mashing
Versatile - geared or SS
Good standover clearance
Weaknesses: Pretty heavy for an AL frame
Steep-ish HT angle
Track ends and disc brakes can be tricky
Rear tire clearance is pretty tight (Ignitor 2.1 in the back with ~5 mm on each side at the chainstay yoke)
* This review is for the (nearly) 1st generation aluminum Scout 29 *
I bought this bike complete off of eBay to add a dedicated rigid, SS to the bike stable. I wanted something light and quick for short local rides. It had a few nice upgrades beyond the stock bike and turned out to be quite a deal.
I LOVE the short chainstays. With the bike set up 32x20, the BB-to-rear axle distance is 16.75". My only complaint with 29er's has been how much more work it is to lift the front end and it's MUCH easier with the short rear. I have since set up my Unit (now geared) with the sliders set as far forward as possible to shorten it as much as possible.
Other thoughts: For aluminum, it doesn't feel as uber-rigid as the Outcast (but, of course, not nearly as smooth as the Unit). If I were riding anywhere gnarly, the rear tire clearance would be a real problem.
Similar Products Used: 29ers from Redline, Fuji, Raleigh, Haro, Voodoo, Haro
Bike Setup: Sram X-7 2x10
Recon Gold TK
X-7 Hubs Sun Rims
a Cross Country Rider
from Hooper, Utah, USA
Date Reviewed: November 2, 2010
Strengths: Price, weight, Geometry, The Ride.
Weaknesses: JB Importers (Distributors of the Origin 8 Scout), bolt on rear wheel, non-replaceable derailuer hanger.
The bike is a riot to ride! It is super fast and responsive. A fellow 29er rider commented it feels like a "Ferrari" while riding it! However, the frame cracked on a weld after about 6 months. JB Importers would not stand behind it. Even though I purchased the bike new, it wasn't from one of their dealers, therefore, I am SOL! I love the bike, I just wish JB would stand behind their frame material/workmanship. I have had to have a local weld shop weld it a couple times, it keeps cracking. Due to JBs lack of help, the value rating is low. Overall, the bike is a blast!!
a Cross Country Rider
from Bluefield, VA
Date Reviewed: October 8, 2010
Strengths: Agile, Strong, Climbs like a goat
Weaknesses: Heavy (but so am I). some problems keeping the rear wheel centered.
The Scout has made riding fun again. Despite the weight (just a hair over 30 pounds0 the bike climbs like a goat. I've managed to clear some climbs that I've never came close to on my lighter bikes. It also descends well and rails switchbacks. The frame is beautiful to be so cheap, and that being said, the cost of the frame allowed me to really up the spec on the parts. It's also quite agile to be such a bike bike, it goes where you point it which is great in the rock gardens we ride in. Once again, this bike has made me want to ride every chance i get which is something i haven't been able to say in a while.
Strengths: Bombproof frame, great geometry for larger athletic riders, agile, the 2010 steel is smooth, removable cable hangers, integrated chain tensioners,
Weaknesses: heavy, but then again so am I :), the plastic clips for hanging cables are worthless, they came off after one crash, so replace with zip ties
This bike is great, it's cheap compared to other bikes with similar quality. It's perfect for bigger guys like me, 225lbs. I can lay this bike down hard and pick it right back up and keep going. I have broken frames before, and I don't have to worry about breaking anything because this thing is built tough. The reason I was attracted to this frame is because I tend to break everything I touch (I like to push the limits), and this thing begs for more. This frame is totally worth upgrading in the future and the new steel version is great.
If you're a beginner to 29ers and you're looking for a bike that doesn't break the bank, pull the trigger now!! you won't regret it
Bike Setup: SS at 32/20, avid bb5s, cheap yet tough steel fork, shimano alivio (cheap) aluminum cranks, crank brother candy pedals,
a Weekend Warrior
from Youngstown, NY
Date Reviewed: August 24, 2010
Strengths: Fun angles. Short chainstays. This bike brings the playfulness back to XC. Inexpensive and versatile. Paint is quite tough.
Weaknesses: Not the best welds but it is still in one piece. I'm not a big fan of horizontal dropouts...I dislike EBB more though.
Bottom line is that this is a super fun bike to ride. I started stock and upgraded due to the "itch" I love the geometry of this bike. I would strongly recommend the scout to someone who is getting into 29r's. You can not beat the price of these for the spec nor the relaxed, fun geo of it.
Similar Products Used: Fisher Rig....Gt peace ss....jaberwockey
Bike Setup: Aluminum frame & SS. Black Ops carbon fork, Bonty rhythm elite wheelset. Ritchey carbon bar, Exotic carbon post, Hayes grams, alligator rotors, raceface northshore cranks w/stronglight ti bb. Stock ignitors with stans.
a Cross Country Rider
Date Reviewed: March 12, 2010
Strengths: versatile and strong
Weaknesses: rear tire clearance, absolutely need bolt on hubs as rear wheel will shift in the stays with skewers under heavy loads.
everybody has said it -- bang for the buck. I've tried this frame rigid, suspended, geared, ss, as a 96er, racing, commuting, and just plain riding offroad. Great bike that doesn't do everything great, but most things really well. Feels just like my bmx bike did in 7th grade.
Similar Products Used: first 29er after many 26 hardtails
Bike Setup: rigid with black ops fork and smattering of components
a Cross Country Rider
from central texas
Date Reviewed: March 9, 2010
Strengths: short chainstays, stiff rear end, great stock component set for the price.
Weaknesses: on the heavy side for a frame but still lighter than steel, only integrated deraileur hanger, not the prettiest welds (but better than some i have seen)
great bike for racing. with the tubeless setup, i don't feel that there is anything better. a nice plush fork and i was set.
the short chainstays coupled with the steep headtube make it a very nimble bike- almost as nimble as my 26 inch bike, but with the increased ability to roll over stuff that comes with a 29er.
built up with what i have, its 26.6 lbs as a SS. geared will put me at 28.2 lbs- not light but light enough for me. i could save a lot on wheels, but they are durable. a note- stock wheelset is a SS cassette freehub with formula hubs.
Similar Products Used: raleigh talus 29, raleigh xxix, a few niners (mcr, emd), a few specialized offerings, kona unit.
Bike Setup: scout 29er, manitou minute 29er fork, titec bars, stem, and seatpost, mavic a317 rims to stock formula hubs, tubeless wheels, avid elixir r brakes. soon to be a 1x9 with slx/xt mix.
a Weekend Warrior
from suffolk ny
Date Reviewed: October 13, 2009
Strengths: Great bang for the buck. Love the fact that I got a real 29er SS for a great price
Weaknesses: bottom bracket creaks like mad. BB5's aren't the greatest.
I had a Jamis Dakar Comp before that I constantly had to maintain and clean and lube and adjust. Living on Long Island I used 3 speeds, I can get any hill on my SS 29er that I could in my granny gear. I feel the abilities of my bike are only limited by my abilities. Bottom line; for 600.00 clams you get a whole lot of bike.