Weaknesses: its not quite as a good a £7000 S-works epic - so for the cash basically nothing
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3 years I have had 9 bikes this is by far my favourite the quality of the ride from salsa and the orange colour is wicked totally love it for racing and trail riding really comfortable and a great ride - get one
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MagicCarpet
a Cross Country Rider
from Brisbane, QLD, Australia
Date Reviewed: October 5, 2011
Strengths: Does everything very well.
Weaknesses: I think post mounts are a bad idea for frames and forks alike.
Bottom Line:
I couldn't be happier. 71 deg head angle steers brilliantly. Long wheel base climbs brilliantly. High BB clears everything (just about). The rear suspension design is a stroke of genius. I ride this bike on pretty long rides and it brings me home feeling great. Handles rough and smooth, flat or steep, single trails and fire trails. Occasionally I could do with another 20mm up front, but the bike handles everything. As I said, I couldn't be happier.
Bike Setup: Full XT, Ritchey WCS, Ti Rolls Saddle, Reba SL, Hope Pro2/Flows/Supercomps, Folding Saguaros tubeless.
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coacheye
a Cross Country Rider
from Chula Vista, CA San Diego
Date Reviewed: June 10, 2011
Strengths: Smooth ride, great geometry, rides like a 26er.
Weaknesses: none to mention, chain-suck issues, but cure with a shimano crank and 2x9 set set up. Lose the big ring and get a bashguard, problem solved.
Bottom Line:
If you can find one, buy it. Great ride for long days out on various terrain settings.
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MrHyde
a Weekend Warrior
from Calgary, AB
Date Reviewed: June 1, 2011
Strengths: Stiff, even in the XL size, relatively light, simple, looks sweet! Rear shock ratio is high (2:1) which makes for a perfect frame for a clyde.
Weaknesses: I needed to have more head tube. Maybe not for you, but I needed too much spacer. I'm near the top end of fitting on an XL tho. It would have been sweet to have a tapered head tube as my reba steerer flexes like mad with a long steerer and 1.5" of spacers under the stem. A shame considering how flex free the rest of the bike is. The only way around this is a heavier fork.
Bottom Line:
This thing flat out hauls with the lockout engaged! I don't find the front end to be slack or chopperish at all with 120 out front, it carves plenty tight and have not had any hint of flop on the climbs. I have no idea what my build weighs, but likely under 30lbs, which is xc race territory for a 225lb oaf like me. I am running a Maxxis Ardent up front and Icon out back tubeless on the charger pro's and it flat out hauls. I have not experienced the chain suck, but that's because I don't have the deus cranks that caused it! One thing I am getting used to is the rear suspension. With sag set right it feels firm, even without the lockout. I think this is intentional, as the suspension design is prone to bobbing, and it will with mashing. Until you flip that lever - then it's just a rocket ship! Stand and mash the hills and just go sailing up. I think the 29" wheels take enough of the edge off stuff to make up for the very firm damping so it all just plain works good despite no bling patented suspension wizardry with fancy name. I am definitely looking forward to a summer on this thing! Oh, and by the way, ZERO "adaptation time" required for 29er!
Similar Products Used: None! First 29er xc bike, last bike was a 26er 5" faux bar built sweet.
Bike Setup: Reba team 120mm maxle, sun ringle charger pro wheels, other nice stuff that doesn't matter.
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mtb_dood
a Weekend Warrior
from Lexington, KY US
Date Reviewed: May 13, 2011
Strengths: Killer looks and attention to small details. Smooth ride with great geometry.
Weaknesses: Paint durability and chain suck issues with Truvativ cranks.
Bottom Line:
Despite the chainsuck issues it is a very fun bike to ride. Not the lightest frame out there but not too heavy, my bike weighs about 28 lbs for a large.
Bike Setup: Xtr and xt build, stan's arch wheels, avid elixir brakes
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TCRunner
a Cross Country Rider
from Traverse City, MI
Date Reviewed: February 2, 2011
Strengths: STYLE! The color is fantastic. Graphics are awesome. Geo is cozy for all day riding. Thompson setback helps.
Weaknesses: Chain suck. Paint scuffs so easily.
Bottom Line:
It's a great all-day rider. Lockout and pro-pedal firm it up so it climbs great! Slow speed handling is very comfortable. Buy it if you are looking for a comfortable ride that stands out from the Fisher's and Specialized's.
Similar Products Used: Only FS. I do ride an 08 Mamasita.
Bike Setup: x.9, x.7, Fulcrum Red's
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davthedude
a Cross Country Rider
from Tulsa ok usa
Date Reviewed: December 14, 2010
Strengths: Looks great rides better
Weaknesses: lets see None! maybe one you cant get them any more
Bottom Line:
there are just some things that work right and this is one of them.looks good rides great tad heavy but so am i. durable who wants to not be able use their bike for months while waiting for warranty frames and swing arms? Gary you listening?
Favorite Trail: Lake Leatherwood Ureaka Springs Bench Trail
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid:
$600.00
Purchased At: 918XC
Similar Products Used: Gary Fisher hifi 29
Bike Setup: Components that were on the Fisher xo twisty, x9 derailleurs, reba team fork, thompson stem and post,2x9 truvativ crank, bb7s way old shimano xt brake levers,Mavic 719 on xt hubs
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jay dee
a Cross Country Rider
from Louisville CO USA
Date Reviewed: November 7, 2010
Strengths: tight geometry, plush... lite (for a FS 29er)
Weaknesses: ????
Bottom Line:
First FS bike I've been on on years..... soooo much fun. Fox RP2 shock is smooth enough for moderate hits and can be set for nearly no pedal bob. Geometry is tight and works really well to make the 29in wheels seem more maneuverable. Climbs better than expected for a full-susser and handles techy sections with style. Perfect for XC/all day riders who want to be on a 29er but also want to have a plusher ride than possible with a hard-tail.
Bike Setup: Manitou Minute 100, Truvativ Noir bars and branks, Easton XC One wheels, Mix of x9 and SLX. 27lbs, medium
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alexkraemer
a Weekend Warrior
from SLC, UT
Date Reviewed: October 11, 2010
Strengths: Great climbing, stiff rear end
Landing from jumps is plusher than a mattress
Weaknesses: Not one of the lighter frames (7lbs)
Had to file paint off the post mounts for the calipers to sit straight
Bottom Line:
Setup as a 2x9 with a used drivetrain and my chain is too long, but ZERO chainsuck. Seriously folks, skip the damn 44T ring and go 2x9. Unless you run of gears at 36x11, in which case go buy a 36er. 120mm fork slows climbing a bit, but makes the downhills melt away. Propedal is needed for us mashers, but eventually my cadence will smooth out and I'll probably stop using it. Small bump compliance is still rough - if the shock doesn't break in by next season, I'm sending it to Push to get worked on. Overall - great bike, now it's time to lighten things up and make the climbing easier.
Bike Setup: 120mm Minute 29
SLX 22-36 crank (fixes all manner of chainsuck issues)
203 Front/160 Rear
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Out of Bounds
a Weekend Warrior
from Virginia
Date Reviewed: October 7, 2010
Strengths: Price can't be beat. Bike is and feels solid. No mush in the linkage. Fun bike to ride and the rear suspension set up is simple and easy to dial in with the front suspenstion. Did i mention price?
Weaknesses: Crankset causes chain suck. Also chainring bolts loosen easily and i've replaced them all. Bike climbs well but it is heavy and feels heavy. Stay seated take propedal off and spin up the hills, but don't redline trying to go fast. Paint chips easily. Should have spec'd a 185 front rotor.
Bottom Line:
I have not ridden a full suspension bike since my 99' FSR XC and after years of rigid singlespeeding (29'er)wanted an alternate 'bike' for riding technical terrain and to try riding a FS bike again. Bike descends great and rolls over stuff with aplomb. Handles well. After riding a SS rigid bike, had to get used to seated climbing and spinning to maximize the full suspension, but it does feel heavy going 'up', but flies going down and on the flats. I imagine as parts fail, I will lighten it up, but the Speedgoat build was too good to pass up. If lighter i can see racing this bike, but an XL with speedgoat build weighs in at 32.8 pounds. Either the bike or my gut needs to lose a few pounds to rate it higher.
Similar Products Used: Tested a gary fisher 29" FS bike.
Bike Setup: Speedgoat sale spec. XT. RP2. RaceFace crankset. swapped out the salsa flat bar for a low riser which suits me better.
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mahoba
a Weekend Warrior
from mahoba@gmail.com
Date Reviewed: September 24, 2010
Strengths: Solid. Great on downhills and long uphills. Comfortable on long flats.
Weaknesses: As others have said the Raceface cranks have some chain suck when you aren't careful of your shifting into the smallest ring. Not sure if the XT cranks have the same issue. I've also seen the paint and cable housing rub away where they meet.
Bottom Line:
I spent several 9 hour days on this bike over all kinds of terrain and had no issues. Very comfortable and very capable.
Similar Products Used: First 29er. Rocky Mountain Element
Bike Setup: XT. May switch out the rims for tubeless.
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rth009
a Cross Country Rider
from Billings, MT
Date Reviewed: July 12, 2010
Strengths: As the others have said, Big Mama climbs like a goat in pro-pedal and rallys like a pronghorn on the flats and down hill. It also looks great, I love the color and the embroidered Salsa design is rad, far superior bikes that obonoxiously scream the manufacturer name. I am very pleased with the XT components as well.
Weaknesses: It is widely known that this frame has some chain suck issues if it is not in tune, you have a dirty chain and you crank on it wrong. I got mine dialed in after the first 300 miles and as long as I clean the chain after every few rides and try not to hammer on it while dropping to the low chain ring, its all good. Also, the paint wears off easily where the cables rub, but I suppose that cant be helped.
Bottom Line:
A totally sweet and comfortable full suspension 29er that looks great and rides even better. At $2100, it was an unbelieveable value. Even 2500 would be well worth it. Its not a custom frame or anything, but its way cooler than your average Trek, Fisher, or Specialized.
Similar Products Used: This is my first full suspension and first 29er
Bike Setup: I have the XT complete from Salsa: XT hydraulic brakes, derailleurs, shifters, hubs; Race Face Deus crankset; Salsa Semi 29er rims; Kenda Nevegal 2.20 tires.
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hgravez
a Cross Country Rider
from Denver Colorado
Everything people have said about this bike being a ton of fun is spot on. I don't even notice the weight, it handles like a 26er, is stiff enough while climbing, plush on the decent....maybe the most fun I've had on a bike...and for the clearance price, it simply can't be beat. With all the problems Gary Fissure and Niner have been having, I have never seen Salsa issue those sorts of recalls. I totally trust this frame and the flexing seat stays are genius. Of course, if I could afford a Tallboy I would certainly buy one. But, that being said, this bike seems to handle very very similar to the Tallboy.
Similar Products Used: Titus Racer-X 29er, GF HiFi, SC Tallboy, Intense Spider 29er
Bike Setup: king, XT wheelset, reba race, xt deraileurs
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wh400
a Weekend Warrior
from Birmingham, AL, USA
Date Reviewed: July 6, 2010
Strengths: Frame looks big and sounds heavy, when riding it, it feels neither. Wonderful paint job, pictures do not do it justice. For a large bike the 'cockpit' feels like you are riding a 26er
Weaknesses: Weight - it doesn't feel like it weighs a lot so imagine what it would feel like if it were actually lighter!
Bottom Line:
Great bike, put together components from a leftover 2009 bike, got the frame at a super sweet price, and from the moment I rode it I loved it. I am short, 5'4" and was worried that a 29er would be too big, not at all. All you small people out there like me, don't let people tell you a 29er is only for big people, it is not...The bike looks big when you see but when you ride it, it feels no larger than my old 13.5cm hardtail. I don't notice the difference on the trail except that the 29er can cruise, I mean really cruise downhill and on the flats. Still working out the uphill but would not trade the bike for anything...My friend asked me on the maiden voyage 'If this were a demo would you still buy it' My answer - an immediate yes!
Favorite Trail: Blood Rock - Oak Mountain State Park, Birmingham, AL
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1200.00
Purchased At: Pedal Shop
Similar Products Used: Haro Escape 8.1 - for about 4 years - hardtail
Bike Setup: SRAM X7,(wanted Shimano but didn't fit right), Tru-vativ crankset, WTB wheels, WTB Prowler tires, RockShox Tora Race 29er
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Aaron Ashley
a Weekend Warrior
Date Reviewed: June 26, 2010
Strengths: Climbs like nothing I have ever ridden before, frame is solid as a rock, great components on the standard build(for a weekend warrior like myself) Descends like a dream, just a great bike all around.
Weaknesses: Paint is very weak, after one ride it was already scuffing around the brake cables, make sure to pick up some frame tape before you ride it too much or you will regret it. The chain will sometimes get hung up while shifting the big ring around, I didn't stop pedaling quick enough once and caused some pretty deep gashes.
Bottom Line:
Great bike for bigger guys, it might take a few rides to get used to the bigger bike if you are coming from a 26" but when you do it will be well worth it. I would call this the "poor" mans Tallboy, but you will not be disappointed, fantastic all around bike.