Pivot Cycles Mach 429 Carbon 29er Full Suspension
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Product DescriptionPaired with FOX suspension, DT Swiss rolling stock, and SRAM X01, it's going to be hard to improve on this Pivot Mach 429 Carbon Complete Bike. As it sits, this Mach 429 Carbon is versatile enough to compete in expert-class crosscountry events, while still being ready for aggressive, all-day...
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Date Reviewed: August 27, 2014
Strengths: straight out the gate ready to roll wherever you take it. Soaks up the trail while giving full power to the pedal. Maneuvers well gives a positive feel from the trail to the rider. Does far more than I can ask of the bike. Climbs like a hardtail, handles like a 26 solid and fast on the downhill. A pleasure to ride.
Weaknesses: pedal strikes happen more frequently than they did before. On steep climbs the front end seems a bit light and easy to get off your line. tubeless ready but not set up seems like a waste of tubes. All these issues are minor and easy to adjust to
With the trail often being my first choice over the road I had decided that it was time for me to purchase a FS bike. I wanted a 29r based on many in my group and friends all seemed to go for this style. I discussed what they liked and what they did not like. I felt comfortable with making the move to the 29.
I did not read any reviews before shopping. I simply went out and rode a host of bikes. While difficult to assess in the typical LBS parking lot that is all you get. I rode a dozen different manufactures and at least 20 bikes at multiple LBS. Some of the rides I hated some were ok I liked a few allot and loved one. The 429 c Pro Build
What set the 429c apart was a couple of things. Many of the 29rs need to be guided or swooped into turns that I rode. The 429 c simply turned. The feel was more that of a 26 and besides me looking straight down at the wheel even now I sometimes forget that it is a 29. The bike responds to direction. It fit me perfect as built on the showroom floor and there was no adjustment needed beyond setting the saddle height and position. It simply felt right. The DW link seemed to flex in a perfect way
Having never owned a FS bike the first ride was an eye opener. Areas I had to get out of the saddle to soak up the trail I now sat through and hammered. The CTD is awesome as I enjoy giving the bike a different feel with the flick of my finger. The acceleration out of turns on single track is truly amazing. you hit it and this thing goes. It eats up flats and rollers and goes faster with less effort than my 26 hardtail. The rollover 29r advantage give confidence. My climbing has not suffered and in fact there are areas I would wash out on before that the suspension kept my tire on the ground and am able to climb now. The light front end helped me clear a switchback that I never made before on a twisty climb. I descend faster with more confidence now as well.
The bike is helping me become a better rider and Strava PR are common as I learn this bike. I am only a couple of hundred miles in so far but I love this bike
Duration Product Used: 45 days
Price Paid: $5799.00
Purchased At: Black Mountain Bicyc
Similar Products Used: 2007 Stumpjumper Hardtail 26
1986 GT backwoods
Bike Setup: Pro Build
Date Reviewed: August 12, 2014
Strengths: The suspension feel. Ultra efficient, silent, and inspiring. Adds more hot sauce on single track; while making climbs and rock gardens, easier and fun. Very surprising how the bike encourages you to maintain your momentum on the tech stuff.
Weaknesses: low bottom bracket, takes a little longer to get used too. I sized down, and ride more upright now.
Bike Setup: 120mm cid, enve xc riser, thomson 80mm 10deg stem , syntace p6 seatpost, xt triple converted to 2x with gripshift. p321 hubs on arch exs.
Date Reviewed: July 22, 2014
Strengths: Stiffness of frame, geo spot on. I love the long top tube, you don't feel the extra weight of frame because of no flex. Bought bike "frame only" after demo for 3.5 weeks and had heavy SLX build 29lbs but still had great acceleration compared to my 2013 Rocky Mountain Element 999RSL at 25 lbs. I wanted to build my 429c at about the same weight as the 999RSL even though the 429c frame was 1.8 lbs heavier than the Rocky. Bike came out to 25.5 lbs with carbon wheels and XX1. This bike feels very planted to the ground when cornering, it takes a little while to adjust to the low BB. Peddle strikes do happen, but the benefits are obvious!! This bike really handles great, I do feel in the bike. I also love the way it brakes with no hope going really fast down hill, I have no need to play with the suspension now its dialed in. The DW link is kind of strange, if someone jumps on my bike in the parking lot they may say the rear feels real soft. When you take the bike on the trail it does not feel that way, it's so efficient. I love the way it climbs, it goes down hill with great control with conidence. I like the feel of front end "light" can wheelie easy. The bike ricks of guality, the fit and finish must be seen!!
Weaknesses: Weight of frame, getting one may be hard!!
Date Reviewed: July 19, 2014
Strengths: What a climber! I mean, wow! Thought my Devinci Troy was decent, but this thing puts it to shame. DW Link FTW! Stiff. Kashima rear shock even on lower end models. Stiff. Handles like a 26" bike (no BS). Did I say stiff?
Weaknesses: Erm... uh... hrm... mmm... well okay, the model I bought has these terrible Magura MT2 brakes. They really are pretty bad. But they are a low end brakeset, so it's not all that surprising. Really can't think of anything else. Cable routing could be better?
The frame is incredibly, incredibly stiff. You notice it in all aspects of the game, period. Just solid as they come. Plus the carbon feels and seems pretty much bulletproof.
Pivot says the handling is similar to a 26" wheeled bike, and I'm not inclined to disagree with them. It is more nimble than the Troy in my experience so far. Having not ridden a 26" bike seriously for a couple years, it's hard for me to say for certain, but the short chainstays and short wheelbase are definitely doing their job to make this bike as quick and agile as a 29er could possibly hope to be.
DW Link is the shizz... no bs. Feels like climbing on a hardtail, and great compliance on the DH. No problem tracking under braking. Feels amazing overall.
I'm not going to talk too long about parts spec, because there are so many specs. Suffice it to say, I got a deal on a demo version with the x9/xt group, and it's pretty decent. 2x up front with x9 in the rear (Troy is a beautimous 1x11, but the 2x actually works quite well for a 9er), the DT Swiss wheels are fine (swapping them out soon though), Maxxis Ardent Race TR EXO tires are really nice; provide good grip in a variety of situations (not sure on mud though... doubtful), Fox CTD Kashima in the rear is solid, and a nice spec for a lower end model such as mine, everything else is fine except the Magura MT2's suck. I about crapped myself the first time I tried to stop on a steep, fast run. But luckily you squeeze them hard enough, they eventually stop you. Also one of the bolts broke off on the left hand brake whilst tightening it onto a new handlebar.
In short, the best handling, best climbing 29er I've ever ridden. Hell, just about the best handling, best climbing bike I've ever ridden, period. The peeps at Pivot know what they're doing.
Duration Product Used: 2 weeks
Price Paid: $3500.00
Purchased At: Pivot online demo sa
Similar Products Used: Troy Devinci Carbon, multiple Gary Fisher 29ers and 26ers, GT Sensor 9r, Motobecane Ti 9er hardtail, Specialized Stumpy (29ers/26ers), etc
Bike Setup: x9/xt model spec. Ordered XT brakes to replace the terrible Maguras, and a Stan's Crest wheelset.
Date Reviewed: January 23, 2014
Strengths: Climbing, frame stiffness, fit & finish, build quality, well balanced cockpit, great looking bike(I have the blue), DW link, no creaking after a year of use
Weaknesses: expensive(all bikes in this range are!), frame is heavy when compared to rivals with more travel(1 pound), cable routing around rear shock, rubber/leather rock/chain guard gets damaged over time(expected) but not sure if you can replace it…, could use more rear travel on rowdy trails
This bike is overall a very good ride with excellent fit and finish and I would not hesitate to purchase another 429 Carbon or Pivot bike. Haven't dealt with customer service yet and hope not to, but I am sure they will be top notch when given the opportunity.
Also a thanks to Bow Cycle for being patient with me and assisting in building the bike the way I wanted. Good group of guys!
Duration Product Used: 1yr
Price Paid: $7000.00
Purchased At: Bow Cycle
Similar Products Used: Specialized Stumpjumper Carbon Expert, IBIS Mojo, Rocky Mountain Element, Santa Cruz Tallboy Carbon, Cannondale Prophet
Bike Setup: 2013 Mavic ST rims, tubeless Racing Ralph tires(tubeless), Thompson stem(90mm), Thompson carbon riser bar, KS dropper post, Ergon carbon seat, XT brakes, mixed XT & XO drivetrain, fox 120 kashima front and 100 kashima rear,
Date Reviewed: October 10, 2013
Strengths: Incredible climber and composed, playful descender. Stiff, efficient, great suspension design and implementation. High quality fit and finish.
Weaknesses: Low bottom bracket that makes crank dings common, high cost, and needs more rear travel for jumping.
In my search that led to my 429c, I spent 2 years looking a replacement for my Yeti 575 (great bike). I didn’t have a bias regarding wheel diameter, just wanted a fun bike that could climb well in the Colorado Mountains. I tried the Santa Cruz Tallboy LTc, Blur LTc, and the Bronson. The Pivot Mach 5.7 Carbon and the Mach 429 Aluminum. I spent multiple days on each bike on long, technical rides bikes. None of these bikes climbed steep technical ascents better or as efficiently as the 429c. The Bronson flies downhill better, the Mach 5.7 is switch back king, the Blur LTc has cornering magic, but I think the overall fun factor of the 429c is greatest.
Compared to my previous bikes, on board a 429c I ride bolder, faster, and return to the trailhead with a big smile.
Similar Products Used: SC Tallboy LTc and Mach 429 Al.
Bike Setup: Demoed the XT, purchased the XX1.
Date Reviewed: September 23, 2013
Strengths: Speed Machine, Lateral Stiffness, strong, Handling, Playfull, Confortable and plushy, Perfect, Excellent finition all over the bike!!!
Weaknesses: Low BB, Hard set up the right cockpit, Expensive but This is a Porshe so....
Date Reviewed: July 24, 2013
Strengths: Speed, Stiffness, Handling. Suspension
Weaknesses: Low BB, would love to see this bike with 15mm more travel in rear and 10 up front, Pricey but what at this level is not?
Bike Setup: XX1, XO trail brakes, Easton Haven Carbon Wheels, seatpost, handlebar, Crank Brothers stem and pedals.
Date Reviewed: July 13, 2013
Strengths: Possibly the finest mountain bike ever made. I spent a lot of time looking for a replacement. For my Jamis Dakar 26er. I seriously looked at the specialized fsr 29er expert carbon. It is a good bike but the build and value do not compare
to the pivot. The brain is trying to take improve the fsr suspension. It does
But the Pivot 429 carbon is the ultimate. Why compromise? It is simple and simpler. The Ibis Ripley is good too but ugly and clumsy. I love my Green Machine more and more each day. It oozes quality. It is the Porsche of the Mtb world. Simple but beautiful. I have finally achieved tight technical climbs I could never before complete. Super steep. Hairpin turns. Boulder fields. It eats them all up. You find yourself smiling again and again. I have the XT XTR Pro build. Best value option. Upgrade the tires for some big ass tubeless ones and add a good dropper. These make a great bike unstoppable.
Weaknesses: Wish it were cheaper but all Mtb bikes are over priced. This offers better value relative to its peers. Would like another 30 mills of travel but you always have legs and arms. I love the suspension feel and always leave it in trail mode. Works great. But I do occasionally max out the the suspension but it still feels great.
Date Reviewed: April 15, 2013
Strengths: Amazing!! It really does handle like a 26 incher. Carves and cuts switchbacks like a cheff with a set of Ginsu Knives. This bike really will improve your skills.
Weaknesses: Ha Ha Ha tee tee tee Hee Weaknesses I guess price. A little tough to dial in the suspension. But when dialed in. WOW!!
Before spending this money on a bike I read everything I could get my hands on to make sure I was getting worth the cash. All the hipe is true!! I'll just say amazing again!!!
Price Paid: $6000.00
Date Reviewed: February 1, 2013
Strengths: perfect. stiff.strong.outsanding in all category
Weaknesses: non yet
but.... the thing that got my in to the pivot 429 carbon was the stiffness and the feeling that "the bike ask for more"
Duration Product Used: 3-5 a week
Price Paid: $5000.00
Purchased At: israel, Matzman & Me
Similar Products Used: Santa Cruz Tallboy carbon, Ellsworth Evolve sst2,Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Comp carbon,
Bike Setup: the setup: full xtr(race) 10x2,fork 120 mm kashima ctd,rear kashima ctd, Stan's NoTubes ZTR 29er Ti Crest, RockShox Reverb Dropper Seatpost, Pro Tharsis Carbon Riser Trail Handlebar, WCS Carbon Matrix 4-Axis,
Date Reviewed: January 27, 2013
Strengths: Nimble handling, Stiff frame, Climbing, cable routing
Weaknesses: A bit pricey
Date Reviewed: January 8, 2013
Strengths: Handling, Stiffness, Climbing, Pedaling Efficiency
Weaknesses: Low BB, High price but worth.
I've been loyal to the Turner Sultan since 2008, both the old and new DW design. Also have owned a Tallboy, Evolve, Big Mama, Rip 9, and Aluminum 429. Have always gone back to the Sultan, as it has been the best bike for Austin's steep, technical terrain. I even raced XC on it. My biggest gripes with the Sultan were handing, and weight, primarily because I was trying to make it an all around bike.
The 429C is the reason I no longer have a Turner in the Garage. It was a full XTR bike with Carbon hoops, and a Fox fork set at 130mm for your reference. The handing is spot on, techincal climbing is on par with the Sultan, and the bike just flat out hauls ass when you jam on the pedals. I actually feel faster on descents as well, even with less travel in the front and rear. For me, the lower BB is taking some getting used to, but the handing prowess more than makes up for it. I have yet to ride a technical section where I miss my old bike. The new XX1 group is killer, and I am a former SRAM hater.
This bike is a rocket, super stiff, and fun as hell. Buy it.
I've convinced probably 12 guys to buy Sultans over the years. They all hate my guts now. My only regret is that it's not made in the USA.
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