Paired with FOX suspension, DT Swiss rolling stock, and SRAM X01, it's going to be hard to improve on this Pivot Mach 429 Carbon Complete Bike. As it sits, this Mach 429 Carbon is versatile enough to compete in expert-class crosscountry events, while still being ready for aggressive, all-day...
Strengths: Incredible climber and composed, playful descender. Stiff, efficient, great suspension design and implementation. High quality fit and finish.
Weaknesses: Low bottom bracket that makes crank dings common, high cost, and needs more rear travel for jumping.
The 429c makes easy, perhaps mundane, singletrack exciting because it is so efficient and peppy that it insists on traveling faster. It almost feels like you are cheating climbing with the 429c on hard, sustained mountain trails littered with big rocks, roots, and ledges. Nasty, wet and rocky descents are tackled with the poise and confidence of a stiff frame, well designed suspension, and big wheels. All these things make it a well balanced bike that is incredibly fun.
In my search that led to my 429c, I spent 2 years looking a replacement for my Yeti 575 (great bike). I didn’t have a bias regarding wheel diameter, just wanted a fun bike that could climb well in the Colorado Mountains. I tried the Santa Cruz Tallboy LTc, Blur LTc, and the Bronson. The Pivot Mach 5.7 Carbon and the Mach 429 Aluminum. I spent multiple days on each bike on long, technical rides bikes. None of these bikes climbed steep technical ascents better or as efficiently as the 429c. The Bronson flies downhill better, the Mach 5.7 is switch back king, the Blur LTc has cornering magic, but I think the overall fun factor of the 429c is greatest.
Compared to my previous bikes, on board a 429c I ride bolder, faster, and return to the trailhead with a big smile.
Similar Products Used: SC Tallboy LTc and Mach 429 Al.
Bike Setup: Demoed the XT, purchased the XX1.
Date Reviewed: September 23, 2013
Strengths: Speed Machine, Lateral Stiffness, strong, Handling, Playfull, Confortable and plushy, Perfect, Excellent finition all over the bike!!!
Weaknesses: Low BB, Hard set up the right cockpit, Expensive but This is a Porshe so....
Wow my previous bike was a Scott spark that i loved it. When i bought this bike i was a little bit concern to get a machine more oriented as a trail bike than a XC bike. Mistake. When you set up your cockpit correctly ( 680mm flat bar at the lowest position on the headset and 90mm stem, you got an insane XC performer with all the quality of a trail bike..... When you descent a rought section...This bike just want that you pull out the brake and you envoy the trail!
a Cross Country Rider
Date Reviewed: July 24, 2013
Strengths: Speed, Stiffness, Handling. Suspension
Weaknesses: Low BB, would love to see this bike with 15mm more travel in rear and 10 up front, Pricey but what at this level is not?
Just sold my Mach 5.7 Carbon for this, and for where I live in the midwest, it was a good move. The 5.7 is a GREAT bike, but I finally got off my high horse about 29ers and for less technical singletrack the speed is addictive. Would be hard pressed to go back to a 26, but the new Mach 6 Carbon 27.5 looks rad and would be a good stablemate to this bike for big mountain technical riding. The handling on this bike is spot on; in super tight situations it steers just like a 26...maybe better! Climbs like a madman, though moving too quickly or too far forward to standing can cause the rear wheel to spin out. Maybe its a 29er thing in that the wheelbase is longer so when you get into that far forward standing position there's just less weight on the rear wheel due to longer wheelbase. Staying more centered solves the problem. Someone else mentioned the low BB and it does take some getting used to, particularly when coming from the Mach 5.7 with a 13.75 down to this at 13. I am nitpicking though...overall a fantastic, fast, and fun bike.
Strengths: Possibly the finest mountain bike ever made. I spent a lot of time looking for a replacement. For my Jamis Dakar 26er. I seriously looked at the specialized fsr 29er expert carbon. It is a good bike but the build and value do not compare
to the pivot. The brain is trying to take improve the fsr suspension. It does
But the Pivot 429 carbon is the ultimate. Why compromise? It is simple and simpler. The Ibis Ripley is good too but ugly and clumsy. I love my Green Machine more and more each day. It oozes quality. It is the Porsche of the Mtb world. Simple but beautiful. I have finally achieved tight technical climbs I could never before complete. Super steep. Hairpin turns. Boulder fields. It eats them all up. You find yourself smiling again and again. I have the XT XTR Pro build. Best value option. Upgrade the tires for some big ass tubeless ones and add a good dropper. These make a great bike unstoppable.
Weaknesses: Wish it were cheaper but all Mtb bikes are over priced. This offers better value relative to its peers. Would like another 30 mills of travel but you always have legs and arms. I love the suspension feel and always leave it in trail mode. Works great. But I do occasionally max out the the suspension but it still feels great.
Buy it. I am pretty cheap and I happily paid my dues after a prolonged market eval. No regrets. The best Mtb in the world. Great for trails, all mountain, super technical. Very fast. Even good downhill if not going for stupid jumps.
a All Mountain Rider
Date Reviewed: April 15, 2013
Strengths: Amazing!! It really does handle like a 26 incher. Carves and cuts switchbacks like a cheff with a set of Ginsu Knives. This bike really will improve your skills.
Weaknesses: Ha Ha Ha tee tee tee Hee Weaknesses I guess price. A little tough to dial in the suspension. But when dialed in. WOW!!
Chris C. You are the man!! I had a Titus Moto light and a Santa Cruze Heckler. The Titus lacked in efficiency but was very sturdy and soaked up bumps well. The Heckler was efficient but not so good at soaking up bumps. Carbon 429 does it all. Clinbing is just flat out amazing. Untill I road this 429, Ellsworth was the best climbing bike I ever road.
Before spending this money on a bike I read everything I could get my hands on to make sure I was getting worth the cash. All the hipe is true!! I'll just say amazing again!!!
Strengths: perfect. stiff.strong.outsanding in all category
Weaknesses: non yet
i tested nearly all 29er bikes. most of them in the hi leavel and made from carcbon is graet.
but.... the thing that got my in to the pivot 429 carbon was the stiffness and the feeling that "the bike ask for more"
Moved from a hard tail to this bike and I don't feel like I lost any climbing ability or pedaling efficiency, no noticeable bobbing on any suspension setting. Downhill is great too, feels like you have more travel then the bike really has. Handles very well in the turns almost feels like a 26", the geometry is very good. I like the lower BB over the regular 429 I demo'd as it keeps the center of gravity lower. I have taken it up some pretty technical rock gardens and have not had an issue with the lower BB. Sizes seem to run larger than most, I normally ride a XL, but went with a large as it fit well and liked the ability to flick it around.
Review for a XX1 build with Fox 120CTD fork and Enve XC Carbon wheels. Purchased from Cycleprogression. Great Austin shop!
I've been loyal to the Turner Sultan since 2008, both the old and new DW design. Also have owned a Tallboy, Evolve, Big Mama, Rip 9, and Aluminum 429. Have always gone back to the Sultan, as it has been the best bike for Austin's steep, technical terrain. I even raced XC on it. My biggest gripes with the Sultan were handing, and weight, primarily because I was trying to make it an all around bike.
The 429C is the reason I no longer have a Turner in the Garage. It was a full XTR bike with Carbon hoops, and a Fox fork set at 130mm for your reference. The handing is spot on, techincal climbing is on par with the Sultan, and the bike just flat out hauls ass when you jam on the pedals. I actually feel faster on descents as well, even with less travel in the front and rear. For me, the lower BB is taking some getting used to, but the handing prowess more than makes up for it. I have yet to ride a technical section where I miss my old bike. The new XX1 group is killer, and I am a former SRAM hater.
This bike is a rocket, super stiff, and fun as hell. Buy it.
I've convinced probably 12 guys to buy Sultans over the years. They all hate my guts now. My only regret is that it's not made in the USA.
Some BC XC on Ledgeview in Abbotsford
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Got a chance to [URL="http://bikeintelligencer.com/2013/04/carbon-29er-comparison-ibis-ripley-and-pivot-mach-429/"]compare the 429c with the Ripley[/URL] head-to-head at the Santa Cruz Mountain Bike Festival. My initial take is Ripley climbs better but 429 has higher fun factor. Response from Ibis f ... Read More »
Green of course.
Hoping to get a shakedown ride in tomorrow. I've wanted a bike this color since I was about 8 years old. Long story short. The town I grew up in had big wheel races for 7-8 year olds. 2 races each year, straight drag race, and an oval.
I've not won much athletically in my lif ... Read More »
Interested in your views on what size 429C I should order - S or M? Currently on a M4 Medium.
My height is 5 foot 8.5 inches.
Pivot say small - 5ft6 to 5ft10
Pivot say medium - 5ft9 to 6ft1
My main concern is the seat tube height on a small, as I run a seat height of 29inches from the centre o ... Read More »
Looking for a 29" FS. I've narrowed it down to the Pivot or S-Works. I like the S-Works because it's lighter andI think it will be better for XC racing. I like the Pivot because I think it will be a better trail bike and like the small brand factor. Would love to hear from people who have experi ... Read More »