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Inferno65
a Cross Country Rider
from Chicago ILDate Reviewed: December 3, 2010
Strengths: ThickWeaknesses: Dirt magnet. Messy. Gets on everything never comes outBottom Line: Don't like it. Won't use it again
Duration Product Used: 6 months
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mtnbiker72
a Weekend Warrior
from Republic of CascadiaDate Reviewed: November 24, 2009
Strengths: Great multi-purpose lube for forks, suspension pivots, chains. Bottle lasts forever.Weaknesses: None is used properlyBottom Line: This thick oil (which is almost assuredly chain and bar oil) can be used in many locations. I've used it to lube fork stanchions, o-rings, pivots, pedal threads, and yes chains. If you use it on your chain like Tri-Flow, you will end up with a sticky mess. But if you put a drop on each link and let it soak in, then wipe the chain thoroughly you will have the best lasting mud and wet weather lube there is. No other chain lube lasts mountain biking in the PNW winter much like this stuff.
Favorite Trail: Growlers Gulch
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$7.00
Similar Products Used: Tri-Flow, Finish Line Wet, Mobil 1
Bike Setup: Access XCL 9r
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John
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto, Ontario, CanadaDate Reviewed: August 6, 2005
Strengths: It kept my chain for being dry or rusting.Weaknesses: This stuff is a deep dark green gooey mess. It's thick, it collects everything on your chain and whips out lube cobwebs. Thank god I didnt get any of it on my clothing.
Hard to find in bike shops in 1999, 2000 with very limited stock and expensive at $8/CAN a bottle.Bottom Line: The hardest lube for me to buy in 1999 and 2000. I had to have the store owner order it for me. It took almost 4 weeks to get it in and the result - I was very disappointed. The most expensive lube I've ever bought.
I had cleaned my bike, used the product and had to re-wash the back end of the bike after the very first ride. Thank god I didnt get any of it on my clothing.
Bottom Line: For the guy in one of the other reviews that just loves it and can't get any more... contact me and I'll mail mine to you as I used it 1x and never ever again!
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$7.00
Purchased At: Bike Shop in Scarborough (on Kennedy Rd. just south of Huntingwood Dr.)
Similar Products Used: Finish Line Synthetic Cross Country, Finish Line Aerosol and White Lightning.
Bike Setup: 2001 Trek Fuel 90 Disk, 1996 GT Ricochet.
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ZenNMotion
a Racer
from VADate Reviewed: December 29, 2004
Strengths: Best stuff out there for messy conditionsWeaknesses: I dunno- Price?Bottom Line: It's all been said- but try Chain bar lube from your local auto parts or hardware store. Same stuff, much cheaper- you can get a whole quart for the same price as a little bottle of Phils. Use it on everything, but wipe it off well! I did a review for Amsoil bar lube here-
Favorite Trail: Shenandoah (respect, don't poach!)
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$5.00
Purchased At: LBS
Similar Products Used: Chainsaw Bar Lube- this stuff seems like bar lube repackaged
Bike Setup: Lots O'bikes
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mark wilson
a Cross Country Rider
from plymouth, mnDate Reviewed: December 31, 2003
Strengths: It's a fabulous lube that penetrates and stays put.Weaknesses: As one of the other reviewers put it's really not chain lube. This stuff is messy and flings oily residue all over the bike and brake surface even after wiping the chain down.Bottom Line: I couldn't believe the difference it made on my old worn out chain on my back up bike. I though I was riding the wrong bike. It's great for fork sliders, pivots and anything that generally get's stuck from corrosion and dirt. I will always have a bottle around from now on. I just won't use it for chain lube unless I am riding in the rain and mud. It'a one of the best all around lubes out there.
Favorite Trail: f-trail rodalben germany
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid:
$6.00
Purchased At: BGI
Similar Products Used: pedros, kryotech finish line, white lightening, tri flow
Bike Setup: I have two bikes so it doesn't really matter they both have chains.
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Albert Zimmer
a Racer
from TorontoDate Reviewed: October 31, 2003
Strengths: Way to many to list. Just try it !Weaknesses: Theres not enough of this product on the shelves in all bikes stores globely.Bottom Line: I'm a prof mechanic whos swears by this stuff. I use it on every bike my paws work on. I recommend dumping your tri-flow bottal out, washing it and pour some Phil's in it. Witht he tri-flow small apps you can inject Phil's into any small area that requires lube. Just squirt it and go. The the lube do the rest.
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$3.00
Purchased At: Mountian Equipment Co-op
Similar Products Used: Everything you can think of
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Shannon
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego, CADate Reviewed: October 14, 2003
Strengths: Nothing else does what it doesWeaknesses: Most riders don't know what it doesBottom Line: This really isn't chain lube. I use tenacious oil for freewheels, component pivots, pretty much any tight place where you want your lubricant to stay put, but can't use grease.
It is really sticky, about halfway between an oil and a grease. Get a bottle, you'll find plenty of uses, and there's nothing else like it.
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$8.00
Purchased At: LBS
Similar Products Used: Nothing similar exists
Bike Setup: Which bike?
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Kel Dog
a Cross Country Rider
from NYCDate Reviewed: July 30, 2002
Strengths: Fm'oove like baby ass, quiets cain noiseWeaknesses: Everything sticks to this baby, make sure ya wipe..like baby ass.Bottom Line: use and wipe and put more miles on ya ride....Get out!!
Favorite Trail: Open ones
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$7.00
Purchased At: Bike Rennasance NYC
Similar Products Used: most of them...beleive me!!
Bike Setup: Real steel hard tail, XTR,xt salad xc set up with slick ass Michelin (for Manhattan Streets)
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Peter
from Laramie, WYDate Reviewed: December 15, 2000
Strengths: Smooth, sticky, and with the right level of application the chain stays cleanWeaknesses: Not perfect under all circumstances (but what is?), or for every applicationBottom Line: A friend revealed to me the way to use Phil's oil on a chain. First, apply Phil's oil liberally. Then wipe of excess. Then (here's the secret!), cut the Phil's oil with WD40. Spray a little WD40 onto a clean cloth and wipe down the chain to remove excess Phil's oil. Just a little bit of experience will allow you to get the right coating with Phil's oil everytime. It works well in dusty conditions (the only conditions I really experience here), provides a much smoother and longer lasting chain-ring/cog interaction than I have previously experienced. The chain, rings, and cogs also seem to clean up easier than with other "dry" lubes. I use to reapply Boes T-shield every 50 miles or so, now I go about 100 miles between cleanings/reapplications with the Phil Wood Tenacious Oil/WD-40 combination (I like a smooth/clean chain).
Favorite Trail: the one I'm on
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Similar Products Used: Tri-flow, Dupont Teflon Chain lube, Finish Line, Boes T-shield
Bike Setup: Two wheels, two pedals, 3 chainrings, 8 cassette cogs
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Don Lu
a Racer
from Cleveland, OHDate Reviewed: December 5, 2000
Strengths: Sticky--doesn't wash off easily
Works great in sloppy nasty condtions so typical in NE OhioWeaknesses: Not good for dry and/or dusty conditions
Gets gummy around derailleur pulleys if you don't wipe off excessBottom Line: This stuff rocks for commuting in the rain and slush during winter here in Cleveland. I get winter road grit everywhere, especially the drivetrain, and when it's wet, regular summer lubes just wash off after one round trip. Phil's Tenacious stays on for weeks at a time. Just make sure you wipe off the excess when you apply it, otherwise you'll get little strings of lube coming off the rear derailleur pulleys, not that it's really detrimental, just messy.
Favorite Trail: None around here . . . I'm a roadie now
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$5.00
Purchased At: LBS
Similar Products Used: Tri-Flow
White Lightning
Prolink
Pedro's Ice lube
Bike Setup: GT ZR1000 w/ full 9 spd DA, DA chain
Dean Castanza Ti w/ 8 spd DA drive train, Sachs PC-51 chain
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Doug
a Cross Country Rider
from TorontoDate Reviewed: September 9, 2000
Strengths: Works very well in wet, muddy conditions, whereas other lubes come off with the first drop of water.Weaknesses: Isn't the smoothest lube, but better than using smoother stuff that will come right off. Picks up dry dirt and dust.Bottom Line: This is an excellent lube if you like to ride in sloppy, muddy conditions. On the other hand if you ride in only dry and/or dusty conditions, try something else. Five flamin' chilis for serving its purpose. Would somebody please get rid of that mmmmm review?
Favorite Trail: Bruce Trail
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid:
$4.00
Similar Products Used: Many
Bike Setup: GT
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chaunce
a Cross-Country Rider
from SeattleDate Reviewed: November 19, 1999
Strengths:
Just like it says, tenacious. and as others say, great for wet and muck.Weaknesses:
duh, it picks up dry dirt/dust.Bottom Line: Depending on the conditions I'll be in I use more or less Phil's or TriFlow and go with little or no Phil's for dry rides like summer in Tahoe or the desert. When it's mucky like New Hampshire or the Cascades I give a heavy coat of Phil's.
And why don't you delete the lame mmmmm review?
Favorite Trail:
Jasper to Wabasso Lake, Alberta
Duration Product Used:
more than 3 years
Similar Products Used:
Tri-flow and other lubes I forget over the last 15 years.
Bike Setup:
Fat Chance Kicker for over 10 years. Currently, Fisher Procaliber.
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Dan Rahrer
a Cross-Country Rider
from London, OntarioDate Reviewed: July 18, 1999
Strengths:
Great in wet and mudWeaknesses:
Not good in sand or dustBottom Line: Phil's is great for wet and muddy rides, but it attracts sand and dust when the trail is dry. One solution, for long rides when the trail is mostly dry, but with some mud or water crossings, where stuff like WL or IW will wash off: Apply Phil's, work it in, wipe completely dry, then cover with IW or WL. This trick helped me through the 1999 Paris to Ancaster Tour (65 km on/off road), when it rained for the last hour, then snowed. The bike and I were covered in muck, ice and snow. There was still some Phil's on the chain at the finish.
Duration Product Used:
more than 3 years
Similar Products Used:
WL, Pedros IW & ED, TF, FL
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Cdale
a Cross-Country Rider
from Stuckton, CADate Reviewed: June 24, 1999
Strengths:
Easy to use- works well.Weaknesses:
Attracts dirt, not chicks.Bottom Line: I had to put a review in here to counter that idiot mmmmmmmm below. Phil's deserves better- it works well, and you can use it on other parts on yer bike. Lasts a while, just wipe- reapply and go- no waiting!
Favorite Trail:
Darrington
Duration Product Used:
more than 3 years
Similar Products Used:
Boeshield, Schwinn
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mmmmmm
a Weekend Warrior
from mmmmmmDate Reviewed: May 26, 1999
Strengths:
mmmmmmmWeaknesses:
mmmmmmmBottom Line: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Favorite Trail:
mmmmmmmmmm
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Similar Products Used:
mmmmmm
Bike Setup:
mmmmmm
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