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Submitted by
rideronthestorm
a Weekend Warrior
from San Francisco, CA
Date Reviewed: October 6, 2009 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | It works | | Weaknesses: | you do have apply before each ride. Chain does need to be clean. | | Bottom Line: | Bottom line on this is that it works as long as you apply to a clean chain. It does keep your chain clean in dusty loose conditions. I used pro link and it's good but sand and dust stuck to it a lot more then using a wax lubricant. I'll continue to use it until I try something better this it. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Julian
a Weekend Warrior
from Australia
Date Reviewed: June 9, 2009 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$15.00 | | Strengths: | *It cleans the chain well | | Weaknesses: | *You have to reapply it before each ride. Who would want to waste their time doing that?
*The directions on how to use it (which are supposed to be for 'first-time users') are vague. They don't tell you where exactly you need to apply the lubricant. Apparently, it's quite important that you apply the lubricant on parts other than the chain, or you risk damaging your drivetrain.
*The main advantage of the product - that it is a cleaner and lubricant in one product - is useless, unless you enjoy maintaining your bike after each ride. | | Bottom Line: | I definitely would not recommend this product. It would be more worthwhile to buy a degreaser and a conventional lubricant. Buying these separately might be a bit more expensive, but at least you won't have to waste time and get yourself dirty applying the ridiculous ice wax on your bike before each ride. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
skerry00
a Cross Country Rider
from Blacksbrug, VA
Date Reviewed: May 2, 2009 | | Duration Product Used: | Tested or demo'ed only | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Strengths: | ZERO | | Weaknesses: | A few miles (10 or so) in and my drivetrain is screaming. This stuff doesn't last. | | Similar Products Used: | White Lightning, Boeshield, Prolink | | Bike Setup: | '09 Titus El Guapo | | Bottom Line: | Skip it. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Russ
a Cross Country Rider
from Calgary AB Canada
Date Reviewed: April 22, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | Maah Daah Hey ND | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | Can't remember | | Strengths: | Cleans while you ride. | | Weaknesses: | Not a weakness but you do have to reapply after (or before) every ride | | Similar Products Used: | White Lightning | | Bike Setup: | Giant Reign 1: XT Comp Spec. Fox suspension front and back | | Bottom Line: | Conventional lube vs wax lubes is like the chevy vs ford debate. There are valid points on both sides of the argument. Bottom line is it comes down to preference. If you're the type of rider that likes to lube up on occation and ride until your chain is black and filthy before you clean it, stick with the conventional. If you don't mind dabbing a little on after (or before) each ride, and you like a product that repells dirt and grime rather than inviting it to stick to your drivetrain, this is a great product. One of the reviews says, "this will damage your drive train", that is not true provided your chain is perfectly clean before application. Problems can arise however if you apply any waxy lube on a dirty chain...then it will damage your drivetrain! MAKE SURE YOUR CHAIN AND CASSETTE ARE CLEAN BEFORE APPLYING! Reapplication is required because of how waxy lubes work. As you ride your chain picks up dirt. With a conventional lube this dirt sticks to your chain. With a waxy lube, the the dirt chips off and takes a small amount of lube with it. After a long ride there won't be much lube left. Hence, the need for reapplication. Pedro's Ice wax lasts about as long as other similar products. Lastly, this is not a good lube for consistantly wet areas such as the northwest coast. If you ride in coastal areas it's probably better to stick to a conventional lube. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
corey
a Weekend Warrior
from se usa
Date Reviewed: February 8, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | dirt and rock | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | lbs | | Strengths: | cheap, beats wet lubes in dry conditions. | | Weaknesses: | don't last long | | Similar Products Used: | white lightning
rock and roll extreme | | Bike Setup: | xc | | Bottom Line: | as far as dry lubes go, this one doesn't work as well as others. about 20 miles and time to start over with the clean and apply. Cmon that;s one days riding. White lightning last about 40 miles,a little better, but the best dry lube out there is extreme from rock and roll. see reviews for it | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dennis
a
from Athens, Greece
Date Reviewed: January 3, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Strengths: | Keeps your chain clean and lubed... for about 20 miles or so. | | Weaknesses: | It doesn't last. Period. It will damage your drivetrain. | | Similar Products Used: | Wax Lubricant (Finish Line), but I didn't know much about lubricants back then, so no comment. | | Bike Setup: | Irrelevant. | | Bottom Line: | This product is a joke. It's very good for keeping your chain clean, but that's what degreasers are for. I had high hopes for it, but ended up disappointed. I hear some people mix it with more durable lubes to achieve longevity, but I'm not about to become a chemist to keep my chain clean and lubed.
2.5 stars (Value) for keeping my chain clean.
2 stars (Overall) for keeping my chain clean. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
JD Baldwin
a Weekend Warrior
from Kalamazoo, MI, USA
Date Reviewed: August 14, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Potowatomi, Pinckney, MI | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$12.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Nice, quiet, penetrating lube that will last forever in dry conditions.
Easy to apply. | | Weaknesses: | Not really long-lasting in mud
To apply it properly, it should be left on the chain thick, for a few hours in the sun | | Similar Products Used: | I've tried most lubes | | Bike Setup: | Stock Trek Fuel EX 9.5 w/SRAM components and Shimano chain | | Bottom Line: | Not a bad lube at all, and really excellent if your chain isn't going to be spattered with mud and wet grit.
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Submitted by
Erik St-Gelais
a Downhiller
from Middleton, NS, Canada
Date Reviewed: July 23, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$4.00 | | Purchased At: | the pedal stop, Sportwheels | | Strengths: | It cleans while you ride, it last longer than they say | | Weaknesses: | none, its lube, if it works, well, it works lol | | Bottom Line: | Its woth the money | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nick
a Weekend Warrior
from Michigan
Date Reviewed: July 1, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | Dick's sporting goods | | Strengths: | none | | Weaknesses: | makes mess, smells bad, does not last, not cheap, warning label | | Bike Setup: | Road bike: Giant TCR2
MTB: Fisher Piranha | | Bottom Line: | First of all this stuff does not last. I have applied the product exactly as the label specifies to find a quite drive train for about 10 miles then chattering starts. It does do a decent job of cleaning but who wants to carry lube with them on 40-50 mile road rides? Not I! My chain has about 1000 miles on it and is worn out maybe due to lube that lasts about 20 minutes? I have used this stuff on my mountain bike and same results. I am just looking for something that will last at least one ride and keep my chain from wearing out. I am going to try pro link pro gold next and what happens. Stay away from this stuff because it just does not last. Also the label says the vapors are harmful....killing brain cells and killing chains...great product. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a Cross Country Rider
from Littleton, CO
Date Reviewed: May 20, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Deer Creek Canyon | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Performance | | Strengths: | Keeps dirt off the drive train and keeps it clean. Works in all conditions, wet, dry, and in between. No waxy build up like other wax lubes. Affordable. | | Weaknesses: | Doesn't last really long (follow the directions and apply before each ride). | | Similar Products Used: | White Lightning, Pedro's Syn Lube, Finish Line Teflon | | Bike Setup: | Basically the standard Yeti ASR-SL Race Disc kit with two deviations (brakes and front tire). FOX F100 RLT fork, Fox RP3 shock, CANE CREEK S-2 headset, RACE FACE DEUS LP crankset, SRAM X-GEN Front, SRAM X.0 Rear, SRAM X.9 shifters, SRAM PG-970 cassette, SHIMANO HYPERGLIDE chain, SHIMANO XT hubs front and rear, MAVIC XM819 DISC UST rims, Hutchinson Barracudas (2.1 Rear, 2.3 front), Avid Juicy Seven brakes, RACE FACE handlebar, THOMSON steam, YETI HARD CORE grips, : YETI / WTB ROCKET V TI saddle, THOMSON seatpost, Shimano 540 pedals | | Bottom Line: | I read the reviews on this site before using the lube. I've followed the advice and the printed directions and I've been happy with the performance. It definitely keeps my drive train cleaner than any other lube that I've used. It will wear quickly at times but has never left me high and dry during a ride. For the price, this is the best lube I have used and plan on continuing to use it. I've done teflon but it is just expensive and attracts more dirt. Not to mention, when it gets wet, you don't want teflon. Follow the directions and you'll be happy. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Frustrated
a Cross Country Rider
from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: May 1, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Kelso Conservation Area | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Main Cycle & Sport | | Strengths: | Keeps Chain Clean! Inexpensive, Easy To Use, | | Weaknesses: | Wow where do I begin? This is a ok product for a one day use. I am hoping that you get that out of it. | | Similar Products Used: | WD-40, 10w-30 Motor Oil, White Lightning, Ice wax, Mineral Oil, Olive Oil, Extra virgin olive oil, Vegi Oil, Disel fuel, | | Bike Setup: | Trek 6000 Hardtail, | | Bottom Line: | The Bottom Line is simple. We have put men on the moon and vehicles on other planets but we can't come up with a bicycle chain lubricant that works! For every lubricant that I used it had at most 1 good aspect about it, unfortunetly 10 negative aspects as well! Good Luck people! After Tri-Flow I'm going to try one other lube called ProGold ProLink and if it doesn't work You will see me on TV when i throw my Trek off the CN Tower! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jim
a
from Waukegan, Illinois, USA
Date Reviewed: April 13, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Good cleaner | | Weaknesses: | Doesn't last very long. Seems like I haven't lubed the chain in months. Squeaks and make noise. | | Similar Products Used: | White Lightning. | | Bottom Line: | I would not recommend this product. I bought it because it was on sale and was recommended by a magazine. I figured it would be similar to the white lightning wax type product. I cleaned my chain and applied as recommended. While riding I noticed squeaks and other friction like noises that I had never heard before.
After using the product for several months I have concluded that it just doesn't last and is a poor lubricant. I have two full bottles and another that is mostly full that I will not be using. Going back to the white lightning, which I used before.
In short, it makes my chain sound and feel like it is dried out, not lubed and really dirty. I would not recommend it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a Weekend Warrior
from York County, Maine USA
Date Reviewed: November 1, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | eBay | | Strengths: | quiet and clean | | Similar Products Used: | WL | | Bike Setup: | road bike, road bike on trainer | | Bottom Line: | My highest-value use for this is off-season riding with my road bike on a trainer - no messy discharge onto the rug/floor like oil-based lubes (when I used oil lubes I used to put cardboard under the trainer), and it has been acceptable on the road rides I've taken it on - but I throw down a layer of Pedro's extra-dry oil-based before I put the wax on if I'm going outside, which has worked really well for me. I might try it on longer off-road rides but the reviews of folks who've used it for that will probably make me carry a small bottle of something else in my pack when I do... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Garry
a Cross Country Rider
from Argyll Scotland
Date Reviewed: October 28, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$5.00 | | Purchased At: | Glasow Bike store | | Strengths: | Stated as a dry lube that sheds grime and dirt. It does, but only lasts for 7 - 8 miles. On the second section of my ride, my chain squeeled as if it was dry | | Weaknesses: | expensive, fiddly to use, wastefull and does not last in damp UK weather | | Similar Products Used: | Most others. MUC OFF lube I find is best. | | Bottom Line: | too expensive and only for dry conditions | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dan
a Weekend Warrior
from Israel
Date Reviewed: May 18, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Long lasting, very effective, degreaser + lub in one product, totally dry | | Weaknesses: | You must let it dry before you ride. | | Similar Products Used: | finish line Teflon Plus, white lightning - Epic, GT-85, graphite grease. | | Bike Setup: | SC Chameleon, Marz Z1 FR SL, Full XT | | Bottom Line: | This is an increadiable product - as long as you use it according to the instructions (apply, wait, wipe, re-apply and LET IT DRY).
You must let it dry before you ride otherwise it became messy. (I usually apply it a night before the ride and it last more than two rides).
The main advantage is that it drys out totally so it doesn't collect any dust.
It also works as a degreaser for the chain.
Anyway, it lubs as well as a graphite based grease, without the mess.
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Submitted by
Justin
a Cross Country Rider
from Santa Clara, CA
Date Reviewed: April 20, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | Demo Forest | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | REI | | Bottom Line: | I followed the directions on the bottle word for word and am still extremely disappointed with this lubricant. After a very thorough cleaning of the chain and degreasing to clear off any old lubricants, I applied Pedro's Ice Wax. The bike actually sat for a couple of days before I rode it, so it had pleanty of time to setup. The first 5-10 miles of riding are great. The chain is extremely smooth and quiet in very sandy, dusty conditions. After that mileage, the wax seems to disappear from the chain and your bike squeals and doesn't seem to want to spin. Once the squealing starts, I put some Finish Line Dry on and the rest of my ride is problem free. I'm using the rest of this bottle and never buying it again. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Richard
a Cross Country Rider
from Tampa, FL USA
Date Reviewed: January 21, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | All of them | | Duration Product Used: | Tested or demo'ed only | | Purchased At: | LBS with Tune Up | | Strengths: | None | | Weaknesses: | Does not last | | Similar Products Used: | Finish line. | | Bike Setup: | Kona Explosif (Steel is real) | | Bottom Line: | My LBS used this lube during a tune-up. The lube lasted for about 25 miles and then my chain started to sound like a symphony. It was if the chain was never lubed. Matter of fact I called the bike shop and inquired if they might have forgot to lube my chain. I do not recommend this product for any riding condition. I went back to Finish Line Teflon plus. I've always had great results from Finish Line so it's back to old reliable. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a Weekend Warrior
from Netherlands
Date Reviewed: December 26, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Really good for cleaning your rims... | | Weaknesses: | ...unless you have rim brakes. Oh, and it sucks at chain lubrication. | | Similar Products Used: | Finish line stuff | | Bottom Line: | Wasn't this supposed to be a lube instead of a cleaner? Why then does it do a decent job at cleaning but totally lousy at lubrication? Ice wax will last about as long as a snowball in hell, and it's supremely annoying when you have to get off your bike in the middle of ride to lube your chain! A waste of money. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kurgan
a
from Netherlands
Date Reviewed: December 14, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Strengths: | Very silent... at first. Keeps your chain clean though. | | Weaknesses: | Lubes your chain for about 20 miles. | | Similar Products Used: | Finish Line wet, dry and Krytech, Shimano Dry lube | | Bottom Line: | You could put plain old soap on your chain and it would lube just as well, keep your chain even cleaner but it would last 10x longer. Krytech is by far the best lube I've used so far. Don't waste your money on the Ice wax, it's too expensive to last less than one ride. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ted Welsh
a Cross Country Rider
from Westland, MI
Date Reviewed: June 23, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | REI | | Strengths: | It is excellent for road frames | | Weaknesses: | Terrible in wet conditions. | | Similar Products Used: | Schwinn Factory Chain Wax. White Lightning. | | Bike Setup: | Cross Country. | | Bottom Line: | It is a good product in ideal conditions. However, you cannot trust it at all in wet conditions. Rust will set in within hours. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
john em
a Cross Country Rider
from saint cath ont canada
Date Reviewed: May 27, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | marvs | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$5.00 | | Purchased At: | liberty | | Strengths: | -thick consistency
- clean chain and drivetrain very well | | Weaknesses: | need to reaply once during an epic ride (ex 50 miles) | | Similar Products Used: | finish line, white lightning, pedros extra dry, tri flow, more | | Bike Setup: | jekyll 800 | | Bottom Line: | great lube, sure it lasts "only" one ride, but what do you expect, chances are that your chain is dirty after one ride anyway and should be cleaned (exeption of roadies). The bonus is that this stuff cleans your chain and drivetrain very well anyway, it just slides off with a light stream of a hose, along with all the dirt and grit. it does not work in wet conditions, use finish line wet for that. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
john em
a Cross Country Rider
from saint cath ont canada
Date Reviewed: May 27, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | marvs | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$5.00 | | Purchased At: | liberty | | Strengths: | -thick consistency
- clean chain and drivetrain very well | | Weaknesses: | need to reaply once during an epic ride (ex 50 miles) | | Similar Products Used: | finish line, white lightning, pedros extra dry, tri flow, more | | Bike Setup: | jekyll 800 | | Bottom Line: | great lube, sure it lasts "only" one ride, but what do you expect, chances are that your chain is dirty after one ride anyway and should be cleaned (exeption of roadies). The bonus is that this stuff cleans your chain and drivetrain very well anyway, it just slides off with a light stream of a hose, along with all the dirt and grit. it does not work in wet conditions, use finish line wet for that. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason
a Weekend Warrior
from Austin, Tx
Date Reviewed: March 22, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Barton Creek | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | BSS | | Strengths: | Cleans pretty well (after you follow directions and have already cleaned the chain) | | Weaknesses: | Invisible results? | | Similar Products Used: | Pedro's Syn Lube, White Lightning | | Bike Setup: | Shimano HG-53 chaing | | Bottom Line: | Not so great. Usually I'll ride in dry to damp conditions and usually I'll use the Syn lube. I thought I'd give the Ice wax a try and applied liberally to chain (used fingers to work into side plates, rollers, etc) and let sit overnight. Rode the next day in pretty nasty conditions as it had poured the day before: rode through mud/clay/sand/puddles; pretty bad for most of my group, we ALL had problems. Anyway, about half way through the 17 mile ride, I noticed my chain was rusting. Not much I could do at that point. When I got home and looked closely, the entire chain was rusted. Tossed the chain and bought a pc990 sram. I won't be using the ice wax again. It may work ok in dry conditions but is absolutely horrible in wet. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a Cross Country Rider
from Oklahoma City
Date Reviewed: February 16, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Anything with dirt | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | lbs | | Strengths: | Thicker consistency means no waste and easy application, good initial lubrication. | | Weaknesses: | Lasts only one or two rides, if conditions are dry. Thicker consistency means winter-time lubing is difficult at best. Absolutely no water resistance. | | Similar Products Used: | White Lightning, Finishline Krytech, Boeing, paraffin, Tri-Flow, ProLink Gold | | Bike Setup: | 116 Links with varying mated-tooth configurations. | | Bottom Line: | This stuff is crap.
It's better than most wet lubes for our dusty and sandy trails, but it's probably the worst lube I've ever used in 17 years of cycling. The label directions are accurate: "Reapply after each ride." They're not joking! Sometimes, you may even need to apply it DURING a ride.....which you had better plan on doing if there is high humidity or any sort of water on the trail.
At half the price, I'm not sure I'd buy the product again unless it were a choice of either that or WD-40. At the price I paid, I'm pissed at the lbs owner who told me what a great lube it was. Two bottles later, I learned that it's not smart to buy two of a new product before you know how it will work. lol. I do like the thick consistency, but the cruddy applicator tip oughta be scrapped for something better.
Pedro's, this product needs to be waxed from your line....really. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Erik
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego
Date Reviewed: August 19, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | BLT/Noble Canyon Loop | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Great label, cool factor to use Pedro's, comes "free" with their excellent Chain Cleaner device. | | Weaknesses: | Falls off chain, very little lubricity after short period of usage, washes off in presence of airborne humidity. | | Similar Products Used: | Finish Line Dry, White Lighting, Rock-n-Roll, Pro-Link | | Bottom Line: | GARBAGE. This lube is the worst, the shortest-lived junk I've ever tried. WD-40 would last longer than this stuff. It goes on fine, but comes off very very quickly when riding in either hot/dry or temperate/wet. I haven't tried it in snow or freezing cold.
It's great for a practical joke: claim it's good, then give the bottle to the fast rider in your group. Ho ho! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ben
a Cross Country Rider
from Coudersport, PA, USA
Date Reviewed: June 19, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Chain doesn't squeak, good for racing(where you have to wash and maintain your bike often) | | Weaknesses: | Leaves a film om rust wherever its applied..on my front chainrings, chain, and wherever else.. | | Similar Products Used: | Finish Line | | Bike Setup: | 2003 Cannondale F400 | | Bottom Line: | Good product for racing, and if you often clean and maintain you ride...terrible to leave on your chainrings and chain to apply a nice wax finish. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Israel Magalit
a Weekend Warrior
from Quezon City
Date Reviewed: May 31, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$5.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Slick and clean | | Weaknesses: | Doesn't last very long so you have to apply often.
Thick consistency makes it difficult to apply to chain. | | Similar Products Used: | White Lightning | | Bike Setup: | Schwinn Moab HT, Marzocchi MXComp coil, Avid BBDB, Deore/7.0 drivetrain... | | Bottom Line: | I guess I expected too much from this lube, thinking it would be better than White Lightning. I just ended up being disappointed. WL is actually quieter and sticks to the chain longer.
Ice Wax's claim that a "lubricating barrier is left behind" when the wax flakes off didn't happen for me.
I too, just bought a bottle of ProLink. Let's see how that goes... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jim Schwabenbauer
a Cross Country Rider
from Downingtown
Date Reviewed: March 25, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | I'm not telling | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$5.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | 1. Easy to apply
2. Keeps drivetrain clean
3. dries with a nice, slick finish on chain that produces silent chain operation and slick shifting
| | Weaknesses: | It really doesn't last long. It needs to be applied after each ride.
Incorrect application instructions on the bottle - Product really needs to dry overnight, the bottle says only 10 minutes | | Similar Products Used: | WhiteLightning | | Bike Setup: | What matters: XT 9spd cassette, ICON cranks, chainrings, Shimano HG chain | | Bottom Line: | I like this stuff a lot because I enjoy maintaining my bike. If you're looking to "lube it and forget it", this product isn't for you. However, if you enjoy maintaining you machine and keeping it clean between rides, this product works well.
The bottle says to "apply liberally, work into chain and let stand 10 minutes before riding" I've found that 10 minutes is an inadequate amount of time to wait. When applied the night before and allowed to dry for several hours, the chaing dries nicely with a good, waxy finish.
The best way to apply it is with a toothbrush. Load up the bristles and brush the chain as you would your teeth working on the top, bottom and sides. Once completely covered, roll the chain around the drivetrain slowly for a few revolutions then let stand overnight.
Simple.Clean.Works. 5 turds for value, but only 4 for the rating because it should last longer | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Clifton Brick
a Weekend Warrior
from Melbourne, VIC, Australia
Date Reviewed: January 26, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Smells OK. Came heavily discounted with a chain machine at LBS. | | Weaknesses: | Lubes OK and shifting is smooth but only for about an hour in the aussie summer sun - after that it's GONE (and I've only used it on my roadie). Hell, WD40 works better...and before anybody tells me to "follow the instructions" - I DID - I even steam cleaned my chain (wipperman stainless) before applying. | | Similar Products Used: | Most of them. | | Bike Setup: | A shed full of different ones. | | Bottom Line: | I've bought a bottle of Prolink - let's see how that goes. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Michele
a Weekend Warrior
from Massachusetts
Date Reviewed: September 24, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Cape Cod Rail | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$5.00 | | Purchased At: | Jenson USA | | Strengths: | chain runs extremely clean, quiet, and smooth | | Weaknesses: | mucho dinero if you ride frequently | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | Specialized HardRock Comp stock other than XT rear derailleur, Deore front derailleur. | | Bottom Line: | I had been using lightweight oil on the chain but got tired of the dirt attracting factor, so bought a bottle of the Ice wax and I like it. Haven't seen a bit of rust as other users have claimed. Virtually no chain squeek, and it runs clean, clean, clean. FOLLOW the directions on the bottle exactly, and you will be pleased. I will continue to use this product as it does what I need. The only reason I gave it 3 chilis is because it is expensive to use if you ride alot. Beats the hell out of using oil or grease which grunges up quickly. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Zyppyty
a Racer
from NY,NY, US
Date Reviewed: September 5, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | paved | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$4.00 | | Purchased At: | online | | Strengths: | Doesn't smell too bad and applies easily. | | Weaknesses: | I'm mostly a roadie and this sh!t lasts at most about an hour in dry conditions. I usually have to stop and water my chain (at least it's a Wippermann)! In the rain it's OK at best. | | Similar Products Used: | you name it | | Bike Setup: | Q-Pro carbon, full Ultegra. Palomino, XTR. | | Bottom Line: | ProGold Prolink is better. Hell, water works as well and lasts about the same. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jimbo
a Cross Country Rider
from Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: August 31, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Anywhere there is dirt, rocks, roots & hills | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Available at LBS.
You don't have to call out 'On your left', because people move over to see what's making all the squeaking noise. | | Weaknesses: | Does not work, lasts less than 1 ride,lets you know your chain is still there because you can hear it squeaking. Poor shifting. | | Similar Products Used: | White lightning, White lightning Race, 3 in 1. | | Bike Setup: | My bike: Giant NRS, XT / XTR, Mavic Cross Link Discs, Hayes hydraulics, SID XC.
Son's bike: Giant XTC, XT / XTR, Mavic ceramic w/XT hubs, Avid Arch rivals, Rock Shox Duke.
Daughter's bike: Giant ATX 860, Deore, Marrzocci Air. | | Bottom Line: | I have 3 race bikes than I have to maintain. I used to use White Lightning but the last half of the bottle would plug up the hole and you could not get the product out. Ice wax was recommended by my LBS. After 1 ride, about 10 km, (6 miles) my chain started sqeaking, I relubed and the sqeaking came back after 1 ride again. Thought my chain was rusting. Cleaned all the Ice Wax off and lubed with 3 in 1 oil. No more squeak. After a few rides, cleaned off the 3 in 1 and relubed with Ice Wax. 1 ride later the squeaking was back. This stuff is crap. I think I'll try Mobil 1 Synthetic Spray Lubricant, if I can find it. If not, the 3 in 1 is still a better option. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Grant
a Cross Country Rider
from Macon, GA
Date Reviewed: August 22, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Iron Legs (AL) | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$4.00 | | Purchased At: | Dick's sporting goods | | Strengths: | It's very difficult to over apply. It succeeds in keeping the chain very clean. | | Weaknesses: | In the drip bottle at least, I don't think a bottle will go very far. Maybe not the most economical choice. | | Similar Products Used: | Triflow, Finish Line, Pedro's Ultra Dry | | Bottom Line: | I have been very pleased with how well the Ice Wax works. I wipe the chain down after riding, apply the stuff, then wipe it down ten minutes later. Though this regimen means I'm using a lot of lube, it's worth it to me since I'm not dealing with the horrible black gunk that comes with Triflow or Finish Line and I don't have to legitimately clean the chain nearly as much. I fully expect this to help the life of my chainrings if for no other reason than the piles and piles and dirt I'm used to seeing with other lubes jsut aren't there. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a Cross Country Rider
from Peoria, IL
Date Reviewed: July 4, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$11.00 | | Purchased At: | Pedros | | Strengths: | -Keeps chain clean
-Keeps chain quite
-Easy to apply (12-oz Aerosol) | | Weaknesses: | -Requires frequent application | | Similar Products Used: | White Lighting, Finish Line | | Bottom Line: | If you must have a clean, quite chain, I recommend Ice Wax in the 12-oz aerosol. The aerosol form is consistent and easy to apply. Just point the nozzle at the chain, turn the crank, and it applies a consistent white stream of wax to the chain. Because the aerosol is low-pressure, there is no overspray. After applying, wait a minute, and then wipe off excess with a rag. I recommend applying Ice Wax before every ride. I expect the 12-oz can to last all year. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joe
a Racer
from Mechanicsburg, PA
Date Reviewed: April 25, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | I ride road | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | Dicks Sporting Goods | | Strengths: | Boooooooooo
better than standard tap water | | Weaknesses: | wax makes pain to apply.
my drive train is as loud as a diesel engine since I used
Doesn't even clean that great.
I hate this stuff, spend 7 bucks on porno instead
| | Similar Products Used: | good ole oil | | Bike Setup: | Custom Raleigh Frame with dura ace/ultegra mix | | Bottom Line: | I only ride on asphault on sunny days and this stuff sucks. Porno is much more rewarding. I only gave it 2 chillis cuz water is worse. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Geoff
a Weekend Warrior
from australia
Date Reviewed: March 20, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | anything with dirt | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Strengths: | does ok in very wet conditions | | Weaknesses: | its a "dirt magnet" | | Similar Products Used: | finishline, triflow | | Bike Setup: | does it matter?? | | Bottom Line: | This product is one of those that makes me sit back and wonder why i bought i bought it in the first place...
if you think about the logic it doesnt work, a degreaser and lubricant all in one??? its like drinking salty water, it will either dehydrate you or quench your thirst but not both.
I tried this product after using finishline teflon which i was happy with. unfortunately pedros was a hasty purchase and now i have to live with it, the problem is that it collects sooooo much dust. Using this lube is like rubbing sand into you gears and chain.
i gave this lube every chance, even taking that chain off and fully degreasing then reapplying every ride... and it worked for 3 pedal strokes before it became like chewing gum on my chain from collecting soo much dust.
the only time this lube worked was when it was pouring with rain and even then triflow worked about 100 times better.
my final thought, if you even have to turn the lights off to like your bike a little, dont buy this product. spend the bucks and buy finishine, triflow, or prolink. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
TienShan
a Weekend Warrior
from San Jose, CA
Date Reviewed: December 10, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | El Corte De Madera | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | nashbar.com | | Strengths: | No - when compared with Prolink. | | Weaknesses: | It attracts dirt and needs to clean and apply frequently. | | Similar Products Used: | FinishLine and Triflex Teflon, Whitelining and Prolink. | | Bike Setup: | Dean TI Frame, TI seatpost and bar with XT Groupo. | | Bottom Line: | With Pedro IceWax, it's a lot of work to clean and maintain.
After I tried ProLink for the first time, I realize I found the lube I have been looking. ProLink doesn't attract dirt and doesn't need to apply frenquently. It works beautifully. It will also elongate the chain's life.
Every other lubes just can't compare.
ProLink rules. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ratt
a Cross Country Rider
from Carlsbad
Date Reviewed: November 10, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Jacob's Ladder, Spring race route | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | Mail order | | Strengths: | Actually cleaner than White lighting | | Weaknesses: | Does not last more than an hour, does not shift as well as the oil based lubes | | Similar Products Used: | White lighting, Finishline | | Bike Setup: | Lite weight FS XC mtn bike | | Bottom Line: | I liked how this wax did not gunk up like white lighting. But it does not last very long on the chain, doesn't quiet the chain down hardly at all, and does not shift as well as the oil based lubes. Even though i have returned to oil based lubes I am giving it a high rating because i am comparing it to the other wax lubes out there. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ricksom
a Cross Country Rider
from Toronto, Canada
Date Reviewed: August 29, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | - Resists dirt
- Has a chain cleaning quality
- Withstands mud and some wetness
- Water Soluable | | Weaknesses: | - Does not penetrate chain links very well
- Wears off after about 25km of hard riding
- Shortens the life of the your chain
- Need to constantly use a lot, sometimes applying twice
- Chain needs to be perfectly clean of oil and grease before applying | | Similar Products Used: | Pedros Extra Dry, Finish Line Krytech, Finish Line Teflon | | Bike Setup: | Rocky Instinct, SRAM chain | | Bottom Line: | The best non-oil based lube, but still not as good as the real stuff. Quality varies with each bottle I buy; sometimes it is runny and penetrates well; sometimes it is thick and gums up the chain. After 4 years I finally got frustrated, because lately it is gumming up my chain and creating a lot of resistance and wear in the chain. One chain only lasted about 3 months!
Switched to Pedros Extra Dry. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tom
a Cross Country Rider
from Belgium
Date Reviewed: July 28, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Houffalize XC World Cup circuit | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Clean and silent drivetrain. | | Weaknesses: | Takes a while to apply propperly, frequent relubing after each 60-100 kms (in dry weather). As all other well known bike lubes, to expensive to use in muddy conditions. | | Similar Products Used: | White Lightning, Tri-Flow and many unknown but cheap brands. | | Bike Setup: | Kona Kilauea 1997, Full Deore XT, without suspension fork but i love the comfort of a thin walled steel frame ! Steel is real !!! | | Bottom Line: | I received an extra Pedros manual from my bicycle shop that says that you need to lube your chain first with Pedros Syn or Dry Lube after degreasing your chain. Dry your chain with a rag and finally you can apply the Ice Wax. Let dry for several hours. This procedure eliminates all squeeking ! Afterwards I only need to relube with the Ice Wax untill the chain starts squeaking.
Because of the thikness of the Ice Wax it cannot penetrate inside the links of your chain. That's why you need to apply a fluid lube first. The Ice Wax is a very well lube, but only for the outside of your chain !
In fact, the first lubing of the inside of your chain works well with every lube, not only Pedro's Sun or Dry lube.
5 - 1 star because of the long procedure of applying two lubes on 1 chain.
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Submitted by
FishTaco
a
from South Salem, NY
Date Reviewed: July 17, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Clean
Quiet
easy to maintain | | Weaknesses: | none -- for road riding | | Similar Products Used: | Boeshield, WhiteLightning,ProLink, Kritech, etc. | | Bike Setup: | Roadie Heaven (Seven AxiomTi + DuraAce) | | Bottom Line: | I use Prolink on my mtb rides, but found this stuff to work better on my road bike (the Prolink 'sprayed' dirty lube all over the chainstays and rear wheel, really ugly; guess I just don't notice/care about that on the mountain bikes).
Anyway, IceWax is perfect for the road (provided you follow the instructions and apply ahead of time so it can dry, of course). It's clean and silent, and since I try to avoid road rides in the rain, performance in the wet is not an issue. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
weather expert
a Weekend Warrior
from iowa
Date Reviewed: June 23, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | given free | | Strengths: | the drivetrain is simply silent once lubed. shifts very well. | | Weaknesses: | really takes time. wears pretty fast so needs frequent relubing | | Similar Products Used: | finishline | | Bike Setup: | cromo XC hardtails | | Bottom Line: | good effective lubes if you have the time. perfect for riders who like a quiet drivetrain. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
pat smith
a
from cohoes ny
Date Reviewed: June 23, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | any | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | dick's | | Strengths: | ultra slick and clean | | Weaknesses: | long set up time | | Similar Products Used: | everything out there | | Bike Setup: | stumpjumper | | Bottom Line: | I also do not understand the undeserving negative reviews. It does take a long time for the water based carrier to dry but if it is applied an hour or two before the ride or overnight,it works fine. It appears to be a bit slicker than white lightning,another great lube,and only slightly less clean.The teflon in the mix seems to hang on even through other lubes giving a super slick result. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Craggin
a Cross Country Rider
from Rochester
Date Reviewed: June 6, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | VERY CLEAN!!! Keeps the chain working very well. | | Weaknesses: | Does take some time to apply CORRECTLY. | | Similar Products Used: | Finish line, Pro-Link, Krytech, Tri-Flow, White Lightning. | | Bike Setup: | Hardtail, Marzocchi X-Fly 100, All Xtr, Mavic Disc, etc. | | Bottom Line: | I have read a lot of negative reviews of this product, and probably shared those views until recently. The difference is in applying this lube correctly. Clean your cassette, front chainrings, and chain until completely free of grease, gunk, etc. Let everything dry. Next, apply liberally, run through all the gears, wait a few minutes. Now, wipe off, and re-apply sparingly. Allow this to set. (I let it set overnight.) Since taking this approach, my chain and drive train work like butter!!! I must admit how amazed I am after riding through mud, dirt, water, etc., the chain still works perfectly well and is CLEAN!!! When done riding, I usually clean my bike with soap and water and re-apply the Pedros. Never any problems, period. So far, this product has worked better than ANYTHING I've used. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tom
a Weekend Warrior
from Pittsburgh, PA
Date Reviewed: February 15, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | The one less traveled | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Keeps chain clean. Works great. | | Weaknesses: | Must take time to apply properly for it to work right. Not good for wet conditions. | | Similar Products Used: | wet lubes and white lightning. | | Bike Setup: | GF Joshua X0 | | Bottom Line: | Great product. I've used it for a long time now with out any problems. I see a lot of negitive reviews of this product and all I can say is "read the directions". It's all about how you apply it. If you just run the chain and sqeeze like you do with wet lubes it won't do any good. Start with a clean chain. Lube each link, top and bottom. Run the chain a little and then let it sit for about 10 minutes. run the chain while holding a rag around it to get ride of the excess. All dry lubes are like this. If you take the time to apply it properly it works great. No squeeks! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
PJ
a Weekend Warrior
from Wellington, New Zealand
Date Reviewed: November 19, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Strengths: | Cleaner than wet lubes. | | Weaknesses: | Requires frequent application. | | Similar Products Used: | Finish Line Krytech & Cross Country, White Lightning, Pedros Synlube, Castrol motorcycle chain lube, numerous other small brands. | | Bike Setup: | 9 speed XT/LX on mountain bike. 9 speed Campag Chorus on road bike. | | Bottom Line: | Works well in dry conditions. Washes off in wet.
Correct reapplication is critical and requires use of a lot of product. At least 2 applications are required to get the chain clean (apply, work in, leave several minutes then wipe off the crud)and then at least another 2 to establish a protective layer. Must be left to dry thoroughly.
Not perfect. You need to weigh up the time and cost of applying Ice Wax against the time and filth of cleaning up wet lubes. I hate cleaning up wet lubes. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tony
a Cross Country Rider
from Knoxville, TN, USA
Date Reviewed: October 19, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Haw Ridge | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance Bike | | Strengths: | Easily cleans off. Keeps chain clean. Dirt doesn't adhere easily. Water based. | | Weaknesses: | Takes some time to apply correctly. | | Similar Products Used: | White Lightening | | Bike Setup: | Trek 8500 | | Bottom Line: | By reading the other reviews it appears that bikers either really like Ice Wax or really hate it. I've be doing mtb for about 7 years. I've used oil, greasy based lubes most of those years. Over a year ago I started using Ice Wax and love it. One reason may be because I use the AEROSOL product which foams up when you apply it. It goes on well, though it does take some time (10 minutes). As others have written, I apply it liberally, run the chain through a cloth or folded paper towel and get it in the links well, shift through all the gears a few times, and let it dry. This means that I don't apply it immediately before I ride. I leave at least 1 hr for drying. Another thing I like about Ice Wax is that it is WATER BASED. Cleaning your chain is as easy hosing off your drivetrain, removing excess water and then reapplying Ice Wax. I still use a chain cleaner, but not as often as I used to. Plus, my drivetrain stays very clean. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Weebs
a Cross Country Rider
from Atlanta
Date Reviewed: October 15, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Strengths: | Cleaner than oils. Lasts longer IF you apply it correctly. Really does shed dirt. Works better in wet weather than your standard oils. Superior to White Lightning. | | Weaknesses: | Chain can accumulate globs of wax (but who really cares). | | Similar Products Used: | White lightning. | | Bike Setup: | Litespeed. XTR with SRAM (SACHS) chain. Shimano chain is crap. | | Bottom Line: | I've read lots of reviews about this stuff, argued about it, used oil and other lubricants. Bottom line is with proper application this stuff is superior to oil. Not superior as in "HOLY COW I GOT 300 MILES ON ONE APPLICATION!". Just generally a better thing AND my drivetrain seems to be lasting longer since I started using it. Proper application is important. This is how I do it.
1) Buy the aerosol. It doesn’t clog and is easy to apply with no waste if you know how. I use a workstand when storing my bike so I do it like this.
2) With bike on stand shift into 3rd gear. Hold can in left hand and rest the application straw lightly on the chain pointing to the front while gauging your hand behind the seat stay on top of the cassette. Make sure the straw is low and parallel to the chain.
3) With your right hand grab a pedal and crank foreward slowly. At same time press the spray valve and meter the wax out until the whole length of the chain is covered with a copious amount. Don’t be stingy. Don’t try to coat the outside of the chain. If done right the wax won’t shoot through the links creating a mess.
4) Stop the tire from spinning. Grab the chain with a rag and spin the crank backwards a number of times. Rotate the rag while doing this but keep the goopy portion of the rag on the chain at all times. This is to push the wax into the rollers and to lightly coat the links for rust protection on all sides. Do not rotate to wax free areas of the rag while you do this. The idea is not to wipe the wax off of the chain but to push the wax into the chain especially around the rollers.
5) This is key to using wax products successfully. The excess wax that you DIDNT wipe off will liquefy when you ride providing more lubrication.
If you are anal retentive and just HAVE to wipe your chain until it is devoid of all lubricants and shines like the headers on a Harley then USE OIL AND QUIT YOUR B!TCHING.
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Submitted by
Joseph
a Cross Country Rider
from Jacksonville, FL
Date Reviewed: August 18, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | the next one | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$5.00 | | Purchased At: | on-line | | Strengths: | Lubes better than Maple Syrup.....although the syrup is better on waffles | | Weaknesses: | Not effective. It's that simple. | | Similar Products Used: | Maple Syrup
Tri-Flow w/Teflon
| | Bike Setup: | Yes. | | Bottom Line: | It all depends on your personal preference. Yes, the IceWax is easy to see, and holds to the chain (aka doesn't drip too much). But when I consider a lube for the chain, I want something that will last. And let's be serious, all lubes will collect dirt. I ride 2-3 hours a day 4x/week and I could cover my chain in IceWax, and within an hour and a half, my chain would be squeaking and was bone dry!! There is nothing more annoying than being half way out on a trail, and have your lube give out, and now you are losing power trying to push the chain around, and....well, that's it in a nutshell (although I just tried it and even the 2 oz. bottle doesn't fit in a nutshell..). Bottom line, the stuff doesn't last. And if it don't last on the chain, there's no point in looking at an other features. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
MOKOMOKO
a Racer
from SF,CA, USA
Date Reviewed: May 25, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$5.00 | | Purchased At: | i dunno? | | Strengths: | smooth, and the white lube is easy to see what part you gotta lube, well, they are clean and quiet. o yeah, it's reatively cheap too.... | | Weaknesses: | what? | | Similar Products Used: | finish line cross contry, boeshield t-9, white lighting race day, Phil wood's, and now i wanna try the prolink ones | | Bike Setup: | A HT with lot of goodies | | Bottom Line: | remember high performance lube won't last long, but.... it is a good lube to use, smooth, quiet, you name it. well. i ,don't like cheap lube, yeah they would (seems to) last forever, but you won't get the quality of the ice wax. happy trails | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt
a Cross Country Rider
from Tulsa, OK USA
Date Reviewed: May 18, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | anything with big rocks or downhill | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$9.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Easy to apply, doesn't drip off like Krytech or White Lightning, makes the chain ride very smooth, cleans the chain with each application, doesn't attract dirt when properly applied. | | Weaknesses: | expensive (just like all bike lubes), requires application after each ride (just like all wax lubes), Applicator could be easier to use (just like all bike lubes) | | Similar Products Used: | Krytech, White Lightning, WD-40 | | Bike Setup: | 7 speed Hardtail, LX Crank, XT front der, LX rear der, IG Cassette, SRAM PC-48 (now PC-68) | | Bottom Line: | I've been running this lube for several months now (still on my first 4 oz bottle). The chain stays remarkably clean through mud and sand. I clean it once every week or two with a park cyclone chain cleaner and re-apply pedros Ice wax. The trick is to first fully clean the chain, cassette and chain rings. Then apply the gunk to both the inside and outside of the chain. Spin the chain for at least a minute. Then run the bike slowly through the gears (this applies some of the lube to the cogs). Now let it dry and wipe down the chain. Then go ride. When you are though riding flip your bike upside down. Wipe down the chain with a clean cloth or paper towel. This removes the excess dirt and grime from the outside of the chain. Brush out the cassette and chainrings. Re-apply the ice wax to both the inside and outside of the chain. Spin the chain for a minute... (you get the idea) I typically lube the chain in the parking lot after a ride. You don't have to wait that long before wiping down the chain (a minute or two) the lube on the outside of the chain isn't going to do a bit of good, but let the chain dry a couple of hours before riding in the dirt.
The most impressive thing I noticed about the Ice Wax was the immediate reduction in drivetrain friction with the first application. The crank just spun so smoothly it was amazing. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gebhard
a Cross Country Rider
from Austria
Date Reviewed: May 14, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Mt. Hermannskogel North Face | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | got it for free! | | Strengths: | Nice bottle! | | Weaknesses: | Doesn't lube - my brand new drivetrain is noisy as none before (at least 10 km after drenching the chain with "ice wax"). | | Similar Products Used: | Various | | Bike Setup: | Nameless Alu 7005 frame, XTR, XT, Avid SD 5.0, Bomber Z2, Ritchey WCS | | Bottom Line: | I can't find out what this stuff is good for - I'll try to lighten my coffee with it next! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a Racer
from Nevada City, CA
Date Reviewed: May 4, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | None found. | | Weaknesses: | Doesn't lubricate. Bottle design. | | Similar Products Used: | Other commercial chain lubes. | | Bike Setup: | 8-speed XTR. | | Bottom Line: | This is a White Lighning knockoff that doesn't work. At all. Besides, the bottle makes it almost impossible to get any on the chain; the nozzle is way too short, and the wax gums it up about every ten seconds.
Surprisingly, this makes a pretty darned good SPD pedal lube. (Hey, with the almost full bottle on the shelf, you need to find SOME use for it).
An ideal chrismas stocking stuffer for the person you hate. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rod Angler
a Weekend Warrior
from NOLA
Date Reviewed: November 28, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | HOO-puh | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | LBS, the bast@rds! | | Strengths: | Uh... uh... it's hyped by many local bike shops!?!? | | Weaknesses: | Relies on wax for lubrication.
Attracts dirt over time and forms black sludge.
Dirt + wax = sludgey grinding compound.
| | Similar Products Used: | Prolink Gold (super stuff). TriFlow, BreakFree, White Lightning.
| | Bike Setup: | It has a chain that sees dirt & mud. | | Bottom Line: | ProLink Gold kicks Pedro's waxy brown a$$ with size 14 army boots, repeatedly.
Go see the ProLink reviews before you buy this cr@p.
I can't figure out what to do with this stuff now that I know better. Wonder if the solvents are sufficient to allow me to burn it off on driveway in effigy?!?!
One honest local bike shop buy says he is ordering no more wax/parrafin based lubes after all his Pedro's and White Lightning is sold out.
Ever wonder why the automotive industry and heavy industry don't use wax-based lubricants? I now know why. See above.
If you enjoy impressing your riding buddies with your bike maintenance prowess by having a squeaky, abraded drivetrain, by all means, I have some Pedro's I'd like to sell you ... cheap.
The big single flaming phart-launched gerbil on this stuff, sports fans. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Charlie
a Cross Country Rider
from HellCity AZ
Date Reviewed: November 11, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Strengths: | It lasts for ever (because I only used it 3 times) | | Weaknesses: | Gums up chain and rollers | | Similar Products Used: | You name it.... | | Bike Setup: | Heckler | | Bottom Line: | This stuff doesn't seem to get between the plates and rollers of the chain, then it collects dust and cakes all over the drive chain.
I cannot recommend this product to anyone, for any purpose. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Paisley
a Weekend Warrior
from Near the Delaware, NJ, USA
Date Reviewed: November 6, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Well ... the bottle is cute. | | Weaknesses: | Might as well be Super Glue. | | Similar Products Used: | Some other Pedro's nonsense. | | Bike Setup: | Bianchi Boardwalk with stock Shimano blah blah blah. | | Bottom Line: | Ick! Icky poo! OOOO, this is a hateful product. If you're looking to find grit from past lives cemented to your drive train, this is the goo for you! Enough on what you can't do with it. Has anyone found an alternative use for this stuff? I suspect it may function quite well for little lube jobs around the house. Heck, it may function quite well for little bonding jobs around the house. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Marc
a Cross Country Rider
from Germany
Date Reviewed: November 5, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | it works! | | Weaknesses: | none | | Bottom Line: | I don't understand all those people complaining about squeaking noises and the chain running dry after a few minutes of use. Don't you read the instructions?
For best use clean your complete drive train carefully. Let dry and apply Ice Wax. Shift some gears and let the bike stand for half an hour. Wipe the chain off with a clean cloth and reapply Ice Wax one or better two times and let it dry again.
Now you will have an absolutely quiet chain and the "lube effect" will last for about 10 hours road and 3 hours off-road. What more can you ask? I'm very pleased with Ice Wax and cleaning the chain and cogs is easy with Pedro's degreaser. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a Cross Country Rider
from Truckee, CA
Date Reviewed: October 22, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Stanford Rock, Tahoe | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | performance | | Strengths: | Quiets the chain for 5 minutes. Works well in wet conditions. | | Weaknesses: | Wears out and gets gummy in dusty conditions. | | Similar Products Used: | Prolink, triflow, pedros synlube, white lightning | | Bike Setup: | Dean TI softtail (Duke), with assorted Ti an XT parts | | Bottom Line: | I thought I liked this lube and then I raced with it yesterday in San Jose - by the middle of the first lap my chain was sucking so bad it was unrideable. I had to keep wetting the chain with the 1/2 gatorade, 1/2 water mix from the camelback to even be able to use the middle chainring; forget the small one.
Don't use this in dry or dusty conditions! In the wet, it's okay - it seems to shed mud and keep the chain clean, but in dry, whoa, forget about it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a Weekend Warrior
from Endicott, NY
Date Reviewed: October 3, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | None | | Weaknesses: | Mucks up the chain, wears out in about an hour (less if it's wet) | | Bottom Line: | This is hands down the worst lubricant I've ever used. After reading a favorable review in a cycling magazing, I went out and bought a big old bottle. I'll never trust anything but user reviews again.
In 4 words... "Don't buy this crap." | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Todd
a Cross Country Rider
from Colorado Springs, CO
Date Reviewed: September 6, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | ? | | Strengths: | None | | Weaknesses: | Wears off very quickly, even when the conditions are perfect. | | Similar Products Used: | Tri-flow, White lightening, Race day | | Bike Setup: | Specialized FSR XC pro and a Cannondale hardtail. | | Bottom Line: | I used this product during a week long ride along the Colorado trail and found that I needed to re-lube during the day, no matter what the conditions where. The lube just plain would not last all day, not matter how far we rode. If you like a squeeky chain, buy this lube! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
chris melehan
a Cross Country Rider
from canton, ga. usa
Date Reviewed: August 29, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Blankets creek | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | REI | | Strengths: | None worth any credit! Lube SHOULD come in a bottle...or at least a container of some sort. | | Weaknesses: | Reminds me of my children (3yrs & 8mths) when its "nappy time", squeak, squeak, squeak. If you follow Pedro's recommended cleaning and prep work you might as well perform surgery...you and the bike will be clean enough! Any lube that requires this much preparation should stay-put for a LONG,LONG time. This one didn't! | | Similar Products Used: | Pedro's synlube, Triflow, "rub-a-dub-dub three links in a tub (of parrafin). | | Bike Setup: | Nice bike, but all you should care about is the chain...RIGHT? | | Bottom Line: | Ran out of tri-lube and bought this because it sounded promising, "Dry like wax - Slick like ice!" The only thing slick about this product is it's marketing. Followed the lengthy preparation procedure and prepared my self for a library-quiet series of rides. In a nut shell; before the end of the first ride, 15 miles in dry weather (except two teenie weenie stream crossings) my chain was screaming and sqealing like a stuck pig. By the way, what is a "stuck pig"? Who did the sticking? And why would anyone want to do that to a pig? Besides, aren't they a lot like us...play in the dirt all day long? Seriously, I'm surprised such a bad product could make it past the field testing phase. Now I have another problem. What am I going to do with a nearly full bottle of worthless lube. I quess I'll go ask my kids. They seem to know all about squeaks.
PS. It's laughable only because its an inexpensive item, otherwise I'd be steamed. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew
a Racer
from Nova Scotia, Canada
Date Reviewed: June 22, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Wrandees | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Stays clean, Lasts reasonably long. Works as advertised. | | Weaknesses: | Not quite as smooth as synlube, not as good in mud. | | Similar Products Used: | Synlube, Extra Dry lube, Krytech | | Bike Setup: | Kona Kula | | Bottom Line: | works just like it claims: stays clean, lasts about 300 km on the road bike, maybe 200 on the MTB. For wet weather, a coat or 2 of Ice Wax, with a layer of synlube on top is perfect for a 2 hour race. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dirt Roadie
a Cross Country Rider
from Durango, Colorado
Date Reviewed: April 2, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | IfIToldYouIdHaveToKillYou | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Seems to stays Clean. Easy To apply. Not expensive. | | Weaknesses: | SQUEAK, SQUEAK, SQUEAK, SQUEAK | | Similar Products Used: | Boeshield, White Lightning, Krytech, Hot waxing | | Bike Setup: | Road and Off-Road | | Bottom Line: | I began using this stuff (PIW) in my search for a substitute for White Lightning (WL Generation 4 is horrible stuff see my review there). SQUEAK. PIW seemed very appealing. SQUEAK. It is available in a nice big bottle and isn't particularly expensive. SQUEAK. I'm in the dry Southwest and I won't even consider anything but a CLEAN (and dry) chain lube. SQUEAK. PIW doesn't separate in the bottle, is easy to apply and makes for a very smooth drivetrain when freshly applied. SQUEAK. It seems to stay pretty clean. SQUEAK. But this spring I've been using it on my road bike and I can't even finish one ride before the chain starts to sound as if it has been ridden in the rain and ignored for a month. SQUEAK. I have followed the directions. SQUEAK. I have applied it to a meticulously clean chain. SQUEAK. I have applied multiple coats. SQUEAK. Good concept, poor execution. SQUEAK. Now that White Lightning has gone back to their ORIGINAL formula, I'm going back to White Lightning. SQUEAK. Since I have a bunch left of Ice Wax over, I'll try it for cables and pedal cleats, etc. But the final word - SQUEAK! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jim Mosley
a
from Los Alamos, NM USA
Date Reviewed: February 22, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Everything Dirt | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Very easy to use. Keeps the chain clean. | | Weaknesses: | None so far it seems this stuff was made for the New Mexico Mountains! | | Similar Products Used: | Everything | | Bike Setup: | GT Avalanche | | Bottom Line: | This stuff works great and does exactly what it is suppose to. If you have any questions just read the directions on the bottle. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
David
a Cross Country Rider
from Burbank, Ca
Date Reviewed: January 12, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Horse Trails in Woodland Hills | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Keeps chain clean, repels dirt. | | Weaknesses: | Doesn't last to long if it gets wet. | | Similar Products Used: | Just about all of them | | Bike Setup: | Voodoo Bokor, 2000 Marzocchi z2 xfly, 9.0sl, XTR, Mavic, Tioga, etc. . . . | | Bottom Line: | Ice Wax does what a dry-lube is supposed to do. On the mostly dry, dusty trails in So Cal, it's perfect. Chain stays clean and lubricated. Don’t bag on the Ice Wax if you ride in wet conditions. It wasn’t designed for that - you should find another lube.
Here's a common-sense tip: If you're applying to a chain with build-up, let the lube sit for 10 min, then wipe off with a rag. Apply the lube once more and you're good to go. I lightly lube about every 3rd ride to keep my chain happy. Takes just 30 seconds.
I give Ice Wax 4 flaming buzz-bombs for doing it’s job effectively, and without any hassles. Can’t say that about White Lightning, Boeing, Finish Line or Krytox.
| | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a Weekend Warrior
from NJ
Date Reviewed: January 12, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | None | | Weaknesses: | If you scrape the black goo off your rings and cogs, you can recoat your driveway. | | Similar Products Used: | Krytech, Boeshield | | Bike Setup: | 98 C'dale F400, Manitou SX | | Bottom Line: | There is no cleaning action with this lube. Where does all the black gunk come from? Krytech is by far the cleanest lube going but it doesnt last more than 50 miles. Remember folks, if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. You cannot get cleaning and lube from the same product. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
poptart
a Cross-Country Rider
from austin texas
Date Reviewed: January 11, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
doesn't buildup | | Weaknesses: |
doesn't buildup | | Similar Products Used: |
white lightning
krytech | | Bike Setup: |
IF Deluxe | | Bottom Line: | The good---it doesn't form a waxy buildup in dry dusty conditons.
The bad--it doesn't leave any buildup, so if you are a forgetful luber you will be riding with a dry chain.
As long as I remember to lube the night-before a ride it works great. Not a great wet-weather lube, but then I don't think it was meant to be...... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
rick chittick
a Racer
from littleton co
Date Reviewed: November 4, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
i could tell you, but then i'd have to kill you... | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
works. like a champ (hey) like a champ (hey) | | Weaknesses: |
man, that s**t looks disturbing when taken out of context. | | Similar Products Used: |
white lightning. tri flow. finish line. pedros. krycheck (the truth is out there). | | Bottom Line: | i mean, really. it's first class porno double take.
| | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jesse
a Cross-Country Rider
from MA
Date Reviewed: October 31, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
sticks to chain fast | | Weaknesses: |
doesn't last in mud | | Similar Products Used: |
white lightning | | Bike Setup: |
Schwinn factory suspension. 99 xt. 99 noleen w/ nr-2. crosslink, chris king. | | Bottom Line: | It is great when you are riding on dusty stuff, but when the mud hits it peels right off. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Stephen
a Racer
from New Jersey
Date Reviewed: October 8, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
works well in dry conditions
easy to apply
doesn't build up as much gunk on the derailleur pulleys as some other wax lubes | | Weaknesses: |
mediocre performance in muddy conditions
pricey
only available in small bottles
not as long-lasting as some other lubes | | Similar Products Used: |
Bicycle; Synlube ATB; Pedro's Extra Dry; White Lightning; ProLink; Rock 'n' Roll Extreme | | Bike Setup: |
hardtail; SRAM PC 51 chain; 8 speed | | Bottom Line: | Ice Wax works very nicely on SPD cleats and pedals. I'm not impressed with its performance on the chain in wet weather, though.I've just started using Rock 'n' Roll Extreme (a Teflon chain lube), but haven't lived with it enough for a thorough evaluation. My first impression is that it's better than Ice Wax. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike - Kaos
a Weekend Warrior
from Boston, Ma
Date Reviewed: September 17, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
any singletrak | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
Great conditioner for my chain | | Weaknesses: |
One size does not fit all | | Similar Products Used: |
WL | | Bike Setup: |
C-Dale F700, hearshok, Tamer suspension seatpost | | Bottom Line: | I love this stuff! Every second or third ride I clean my drive train w/ Simple Green, rinse w/ H2O and apply the Ice Wax. The wax cleans and lubes my chain, after 6 months or heavy riding in mud, dust, heat and rain the chain still looks new! Don't change a thing Pedros except perhaps offer the Ice wax in a larger size. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a Cross-Country Rider
from Ely, MN
Date Reviewed: September 16, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Lutsen Mt. Bike Park | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
Runs smooth
Cleans chain
No oily mess to clean up | | Weaknesses: |
Shortly lived
Has to be applied before every ride (but then again, you should do that anyway) | | Similar Products Used: |
White Lightning | | Bike Setup: |
Specialized Stumpy Comp
xt shifters, spin wheelset, 747 pedals
Eeverything else is stock | | Bottom Line: | This is a great product, especially for those who are sick of messy oil bassed lubes. I love the stuff. Unless I'm dealing with mud all day, it actually helps keep the drivetrain clean and well lubed. White lightning worked the same way, only the hole in the bottle would get clogged often. It got the the point where the lube just wouldn't come out, even after repeated cleaning. Two thumbs up for Padros bottle. Overall, I give Ice wax 4 flamin' chillies. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Justin
a Cross-Country Rider
from Woodstock, GA
Date Reviewed: August 22, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Carter's Lake | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
IT WORKS!! | | Weaknesses: |
None yet | | Similar Products Used: |
White Lightning, Finish Line | | Bottom Line: | This stuff works great! The best lube by far that I have found | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mr_rangr
a Cross-Country Rider
from Pasadena, CA
Date Reviewed: July 23, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
El Prieto | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Makes for a smooth running chain; stays clean in dust. | | Weaknesses: |
Only lasts one ride | | Similar Products Used: |
ATB oil | | Bike Setup: |
Shimano IG70 & IG90 chains. | | Bottom Line: | I got this with my Pedro's chain cleaner. It's nice that it cleans and lubes. When I first take the bike out, the chain runs smooth and silent, but if I ride again 2 days later without reapplying, the chain squeaks. I'll try Boeshield next. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Zach Lorden
a Cross-Country Rider
from Chicago, IL
Date Reviewed: July 22, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Clean, lifts dirt | | Weaknesses: |
Short-lived | | Similar Products Used: |
White Lightning, Pedro's syn lube, Tri-flow | | Bike Setup: |
Sachs power chain | | Bottom Line: | Great lube except for its short life. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Charlie
a Cross-Country Rider
from Sunnyvale, CA
Date Reviewed: July 8, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
lubricates well. Chain stays clean | | Weaknesses: |
doesn't lubricate for more than 3 hours in dust or one hour in rain. | | Similar Products Used: |
Pedros Syn, Extra Dry
TriFlow
White Lightning and Race Day | | Bike Setup: |
Klein HT with Speedgoat forx and USE seat post.
Sedis ATB chain which I clean and lube after every ride because life is too short for shitty shifting. | | Bottom Line: | Ice Wax is the best of the wax lubes. It stays on the longest in both wet and dry conditions (though not very long in wet). It lubricates in dusty conditions for 3 hours. It doesn't stay on nearly as well as Synlube or Extra Dry - particularly in the wet - but it's cleaner than Extra Dry and a lot cleaner than Synlube. Four flamers because it's the lazy man's choice of lube. Synlube and Triflow require too much cleaning. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Todd
a Weekend Warrior
from Alliance, OH
Date Reviewed: July 1, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
tested or demo'ed only | | Strengths: |
Eco-friendly | | Weaknesses: |
Too thick
Chain has surface rust the next day | | Similar Products Used: |
White Lightning | | Bike Setup: |
Raleigh R600
Gary Fisher Wahoo | | Bottom Line: | Sorry Pedros but I don't like Ice Wax. It smells, looks like and has the same consistency of Elmers glue. When applied it just sites on top of the links. If you don't get 100% coverage your chain will have surface rust the next day. I like everything else Pedro's makes except for this. I'll stick with White Lightning. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brian
a Cross-Country Rider
from Houston, TX
Date Reviewed: June 14, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Easy to apply
Lasts relatively long
Relatively clean | | Weaknesses: |
Does not last as long as most petrolium lubes. | | Similar Products Used: |
Finish Line Dry Lube
Tri-Flow
KryTech | | Bike Setup: |
C-Dale 2000 w/ XTR
Look Carbon Road (Dura Ace) | | Bottom Line: | I tried KryTech (bottle) which worked somewhat on my Mountain Bike but not at all on my Road. I then tried KryTech Aerosol Spray which worked a lot better but still had to reapply every ride on my Road bike and every other ride on my Mountain Bike.
Based on my experience with the KryTech, I tried the larger aerosol spray of Ice Wax. It comes out milky white so it is easy to see where you have applied (so you don't over or under apply). I can now go 200 miles on the road bike, probably more but I don't want to push it and at least 4 off-road rides(15-20 mi. each). Yea I know petrolium based products last longer but what little time I spend adding new lub is much less then having to thoroughly clean my drivetrain every month. Now I just brush chain and cassette with a wire brush once a month, add new lube and ride.
| | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
JAmie Shankland
a Racer
from waterloo
Date Reviewed: June 11, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Unaffected by heavy dust dirt, water, heat | | Weaknesses: |
Wax bounces off in extreemly bouncey situations | | Similar Products Used: |
Finishline Kry tech | | Bike Setup: |
GT Rebound | | Bottom Line: | This lube is pretty much the best lube for races next to dipping the chain into hydrolic oil> | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ben
a Cross-Country Rider
from Palo Alto, CA
Date Reviewed: June 7, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
Fairly clean,
does not require degreasing of chain | | Weaknesses: |
Doesn't last very long,
expensive | | Similar Products Used: |
White Lightning, Tri Flow | | Bike Setup: |
Road/Touring bicycle | | Bottom Line: | I only ride on roads, and Ice Wax seems only to last 50-100 miles. Under good conditions (sunny, clean roads) I expect more from a lube. It is pretty clean, but your hands will still get dirty on the chain, unlike WL. Less build up than WL. Now I am going to try prolink. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Greg Taylor
a Cross-Country Rider
from Alexandria, VA
Date Reviewed: May 28, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Fountainhead | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
a good lubricant -- little wear on moving parts
parts stay relatively clean
easy to apply | | Weaknesses: |
have to apply it a lot
dreaded black waxy build-up
not the cheapest stuff around | | Similar Products Used: |
Pedro's Syn-lube
Pedro's Extra-dry lube
Finishline Krytech | | Bike Setup: |
Shimano XT drivetrain, Sachs chain | | Bottom Line: | For me, the important thing is whether a lube protects the moving parts of the bike from wear, and isn't a genuine pain to apply. Ice Wax has worked for me. Chains and chainrings seem to be lasting longer, and I get about 60 miles between applications on my commuter bike. If it rains, or the trail is really dusty, I hit it after the ride.The down-side is that if you over-lube things, you get a build-up of black waxy crap (Satan's Toe Jam) in the cassette, chainrings, and jockey wheels. You can keep the spooge away by lubing lightly and wiping off the excess before it sets up. I still wind up soaking the chain and rings in mineral spirits once a month... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kevin S
a Cross-Country Rider
from Venice, CA
Date Reviewed: May 28, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
Works well at first | | Weaknesses: |
Only works for an hour or two | | Similar Products Used: |
Most of them | | Bottom Line: | Seems to be a local favorite, but some of the locals have pudding for brains. I liked it a lot for a while, even though you have to add some every hour or two. It takes a couple of coats before it lubes well, but that doesn't last long. Which means I'm spending way too much money on chain lube and riding home with dry squeaky chains too often. Overall I think it's one of the better waxy/dry lubes, but that isn't saying much, IMO. Good product for a retailer though, it's expensive to buy and you gotta use a lot of it. Still looking for the ultimate lube, gonna try ProLink next. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Hedi
a Cross-Country Rider
from grantham,nh
Date Reviewed: April 3, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
Clean, easy to use! | | Similar Products Used: |
White Lightning, FL Krytech | | Bottom Line: | The Pedro's Ice Wax kicks it! I learned from the Volvo/Cannondale mechanic that he applies 3 or 4 coats on a clea chain and it lasts and lubes. I have tried the WL and the FL stuff but there is no lube in it and it jus flake off. Use it right and this stuff rules! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Glad Vlad
a cross-country rider
from Boulder
Date Reviewed: January 22, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Applied to a clean chain, this stuff makes a nice lube. BUT...well, a few buts: 1st, the stuff needs to be applied every ride -- two rides in a row, even on my road bike in the dry, and it squeaks like crazy. 2nd, chain stays clean for a while, but if IW is applied repeatedly w/o degreasing (de-waxing, I suppose), a VERY sticky black buildup quickly results, precipitating mad chain-suck -- bogus! Also, I find that I need to be careful to wipe the excess spooge from chainrings/cogs right after applying, or I'll have the same problem right from the first application. 3rd, it needs to dry for a few hours before using or...black nasty stick-as-hell buildup (ok, maybe that was still the 2nd item). Overall, nice + clean to work with (at first), and smooth (at first), BUT, can get messy pretty easily, lousy corrosion protection, and lasts about a minute. Not so hot. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joey Brown
a racer
from Mount Airy, GA
Date Reviewed: January 20, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I have been using Pedro's ICE WAX for about a year and I find superior to WL. The chain stays much cleaner and stays on the chain longer. As far as I'm concerned this is the best wax based lube on the market. All of Pedro's products WORK!! Give them a try and you'll be happy you did. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a cross-country rider
from Vt
Date Reviewed: December 26, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I'm not impressed. After applying to a clean chain prior to a wet 8 mile road commute (2 coats) my chain had rust on it 2 hours later-- come on,not even WD-40 is this poor rust-wise. As far as off road, sure the chain stays clean,but so does a dry chain with no lube. I'm not sure how well it lubricates in any case-my chain seems to make more noise and shifting is degraded making it necessary to clean and re-apply in the field more than should be needed. I was perfectly happy with their Syn-lube but I guess that's obsolete now. I bought some Finish-line syn-lube to hold me over till I find something better and put this crap in cold storage for emerg.-use only. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
The big T
a cross-country rider
from CANADA KICKS ASS
Date Reviewed: December 23, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Hey, what the hells the problem with this. I sure as hell can't find any. Simply amaizing. The only problem I had was cleaning all the caked on crap off my chain before the first application, it was so cruddy you couldn't tell it was silver. Anyways, once I got this stuff on, amaizing. All the crap came off, and stayed off. If you look, you can see the coating on the chain, but It's not sticky, not like wax. It gets all over your chainrings and derailleru pullys, but this is a good thing. they don't stick either, but work better. Buy It now, thank me later. Gotta go ride. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
ChollaBoy
a cross-country rider
from Albuquerque
Date Reviewed: December 14, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This is the best chain lube for this area that I have tried. It is cleaner than the two White Lightning products, the Schwinn Factory Wax, and Boeshield. Absolutely does not attract dirt, and the chain runs quietly. And I have not had a problem with surface rust on my chains, but then again nothing rusts around here. I do reapply after every second ride, but that is not a messy deal because it stays on the chain while it dries instead of making a puddle on the floor. Best of all, there is no wax buildup on cogs or pulleys. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a cross-country rider
from Pocono PA
Date Reviewed: November 27, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This stuff is great! I apply it a whole lot, but it works. No rust to speak of- it's only a 4 month old chain though. I ride in a lot of gunk and wet conditions, and it holds up. It doesn't attract dirt like wet lubes. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Oliver
a
from Ontario
Date Reviewed: November 25, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
My opinion on this stuff is that it does keep your drivetrain clean
but you have to apply it often because it doesn't stick to your chain as
much as the nondry stuff.All the dry lubes function this way.
I find that I have to apply
icewax after every ride so that it works well. It gets expensive but
that's the cost for a clean drivetrain. It works but it's expensive
so I give it 3 stars. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tiny
a cross-country rider
from Virginia
Date Reviewed: November 24, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Great stuff! Have not had any probs with it yet. Not even rust. I don't know why the whole lot of you is haveing trouble with rust but I haven't seen any on my chain. It is true that you have to reapplie after a few rides but otherwise that is the only thing wrong with it | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ted
a cross-country rider
from Eugene OR
Date Reviewed: November 1, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have to agree with the riders who found Ice Wax to cause their chain to rust in only mildly wet conditions, maybe all the pos reviews are from places where the avg humidity is 10% (Colo etc), but here in the wet (not even that wet yet!) this stuff lasts about 4days of twice daily riding before the chain sounds like a flat four with no oil, then the rust happens. Maybe if you filled the chain cleaner with this stuff and left it on while you rode... it probabaly wouldn't be much louder...I'll go back to white lightning, it coats the chain way better.
One idea though, since this stuff is water based (AKA environmentally friendly) a better way than to wash chain w/ waterbased cleaner, rinse, and then ask lube to displace the water still between the links would be to really DRY the chain BEFORE applying the lube. This could be done with acetone, a hairdrier or even a propane torch (not w/ acetone!) then add lube & work in w/ a rag or brush. It still won't last long but maybe less rust...Two stars cause it ran smooth for a day | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tarek
a cross-country rider
from London, Ont., Canada
Date Reviewed: October 29, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Absolute SHIT!! My chain was bone dry after 2 coats and 20Km. What is this stuff some kind of sick joke. I didn't even use it in a drop of water, my shop was so confused, we had to drench the chain with WD-40 so I could get home without destroying my chain. I give it 2 stars because when it was on it didn't attract any dirt or anything, it was perfect. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bob
a weekend warrior
from Michigan
Date Reviewed: October 28, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
ice wax is unique. yes, it may result in a small amount of surface rust. this, to me, is minor. the stuff is slick, and does not pick up much debris. i only go 2 rides before reapplying. i rewash the chain with simple green and a chain cleaner. let it dry...put on the ice wax. go ride. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ricksom
a weekend warrior
from Toronto, Canada
Date Reviewed: August 28, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Recently switched to this lube from Finish Line Teflon Dry Lube out of curiosity for wax type lubes. Ice Wax is not a pure wax lube since it contains silicone, a true lubricant with a friction coefficient as low as many oils. Waxes like White Lightning are actually very poor lubricants and have a much higher friction coefficient (according to Timken tests), and therefore cause much higher wear. True waxes also fall off rather quickly leaving the chain completely exposed without any lubrication.I find Ice Wax a good compromise:
- it stays cleaner than oils
- it never wears completely away (because of the silicone), therefore lasts longer and safer than waxes
- it lubricates better than waxes, but not as well as some quality oils (according to timken tests)
- it is easy to apply and washes off the hands easliyThe only negative:
It will create some surface rust on the chain (not sure about new chains) because it is water based, especially on the outside surfaces of the inner link plates. However, I do not think it causes structural damage to the chain. This may scare some weanies who may believe their chain is disintegrating, as noted in the reviews below. I would recommend this lube for people wanting to switch off dirty oils.
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Submitted by
a cross-country rider
a
from Cupertino, CA
Date Reviewed: August 11, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I don't believe this lube is as good as it has been advertised. I had spots of rust on my chain even with 3 coats of Ice Wax applied! White Lightning Gen4 Lube doesn't have this problem. Hey, so long as this thing allow my chain to rust, I am going back to my White Lightnig. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
kwun
a cross-country rider
from Pittsburgh, PA
Date Reviewed: July 30, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Great stuff. I have more than 500 miles with this lube and it always last and stays clean and smooth for a long time. As some other posters have found, it is best to apply to a clean chain and not to apply on top of other old lubes.smells funny though. better than mud and gunk, i guess. :) | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
WrasseMan
a cross-country rider
from Boston, MA
Date Reviewed: June 26, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This work well. I is easy to apply and coats the entire chain with a smooth, nonsticky layer of wax. After rides in wet conditions when there is a lot of mud and muck, this stuff still stays relatively clean. It has improved the performance of the drive chain. I've found that it works well to apply this to the rear cogset. One thing to make sure of is that the chain and gears must be clean before you put this stuff on. This does not accumulate dirt and stays clean. I apply Ice Wax after every 3rd ride. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
LINK
a cross-country rider
from CANADA
Date Reviewed: May 27, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have used ice wax for three months now and think it RULES!!! It is easy to apply, and lasts a long time. Ride in lots of water and mud and have no rust problem. Way to go PEDROS!!! BLAA BLAA BLAA BLAA BLAA BLAA BLAA BLAA BLAA BLAA BLAA BLAA | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
David Deak
a weekend warrior
from Europe
Date Reviewed: May 21, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
The Pedro's dry lube, Compared to the wet lube from Pedro's (and many other wet or dry lubes), the extra dry is a dream lube. It doesn't attract as much dirt as the synlube, and it keeps the chain relatively quiet. But is does have to be applied to the chain before almost ever ride to keep the shifting performance up. The only good thing about the wet lube is that it can last for a couple of rides before you need to reapply...and the synlube attracts dirt like a magnet with iron filings. But recently I upgrade to using the Pedro's Ice wax...and WOW does this lube work. It doesn't attract any dirt what so ever, I have to only apply it to the chain once every 3 or 4 rides, and the chain is constantly shifting well, with the smoothest movement. My chain has never been sop quiet. I never thought I could be impressed my a lube so much. I didn't think there would be much difference...but there is. Using common sense would tell you that all lubes perform almost the same, but I was fooled...there in a major improvement with the ICEWAX!!!1 GET PEDRO'S ICE WAX!!!!! All of the othere lubes are nothing compared to the ICE WAX. Maybe the Finish Line Kritech is comparable to the ICE WAX, but I haven't tried it. Anyway, Pedro's dry Lube is a waste compared to ICE WAX!!!!! | | Overall Rating: |
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