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TurboCat S25

MSRP			$ 190.00
# of Reviews			26
Average Rating			4.85/5

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Submitted by Bryan a Weekend Warrior from Hopewell Junction NY Date Reviewed: January 5, 2007
Duration Product Used:	More than 3 years
Strengths:	Extremely reliable, competetive cost compared to other high end light systems.
Weaknesses:	Slow charge times compared to competitors, lack of overcharge protection/ trickle charger (should you forget to unplug them).
Similar Products Used:	Niterider products ,among others.
Bottom Line:	I have owned the s25 and tg15 helmet lights for several years now, and after owning competitors products(with non-stop problems), the only parts replaced have been the batteries recently after 3+ years use. Their designs are purposely simple in design, extremely reliable, and parts, if you should ever need them, are relatively cheap. I use them all year round, rain and snow, sub zero temps, crashes in mud, zero problems. If you're tired of overhyped,overpriced crap (and most have useless features), laugh at all your buddies stuck on the side of the trail in the dark and go ride. 5++ chilis
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Submitted by Steven a Cross Country Rider from Petaluma, CA Date Reviewed: February 22, 2005
Duration Product Used:	3 months
Price Paid:	$169.00
Purchased At:	eBay
Strengths:	Bright! Good run times (w/ NiCad battery and using high beam sparingly). SIMPLE - easy on, easy off, easy adjustments. Light. Durable. No crap left on the bike if you remove them - just uses a simple (but strong) velcro strap system. Good racer support program (my impression from their website, anyway - haven't used it yet).
Weaknesses:	Can't turn night into day. Appears that they can't be adapted to a headlight without some fiddling and a new battery (unless you want to carry a huge waterbottle shaped object in your Camelbak - I don't). The high beam switch wire is THICK and not very flexible, making it difficult to position.
Similar Products Used:	Cheap Bell $5 halogen, Cateye EL-400, Petzl Tikka headlamp
Bike Setup:	Does it matter?
Bottom Line:	These light work. Well. And they're simple, so there's very little that can go wrong. Very clean looking, as well. I picked these up on eBay to use primarily for commuting at night, but I plan to use them to do some night rides, maybe even a 24hr. race eventually. For some reason, the setup came with the wrong charger for the NiCad bottle battery - it was the charger for the SLA type. I was confused, but I guess that's the risk you take when dealing on eBay. The folks at TurboCat were quite helpful in getting me the correct charger, and they also provided me with a copy of the owner's manual. I guess now if I ever want to pick up the Macho SLA battery from them (longer run times) or maybe a SLA TrailGuide battery pack and helmet mount (to run one of the lights as a headlight), I'll already have the charger. Good, simple, non-mass produced lights with good customer support. Get 'em, you won't be dissappointed.
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Submitted by Brent a Weekend Warrior from Corvallis, OR Date Reviewed: December 8, 2004
Duration Product Used:	3 months
Price Paid:	$220.00
Purchased At:	cycletopia
Strengths:	Excellent for riding at night, illuminates the path quite brilliantly.
Weaknesses:	Reliability of bulbs, specifically the 10 watt bulb. I have averaged only 35 to 40 hours of use before it burns out. I have dealt with the bike shop, and with the Turbocat customer service to solve the problem to no avail. I was told, well it's under warranty for a year!? Apparently they just don't care about customer satisfaction, oh well!
Similar Products Used:	None
Bike Setup:	Klein Adept
Bottom Line:	If you can't/ won't do a return on a faulty product.....
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Submitted by El Diablo a Cross Country Rider from Marquette Heights, IL Date Reviewed: October 8, 2004
Favorite Trail:	Indy
Duration Product Used:	2 Years
Price Paid:	$180.00
Purchased At:	Little Ade's
Strengths:	DURABILITY!!. I've used this light in mud, snow, freezing rain, tornado sirens blazing, you name the conditions and I've used these lights in it. This light has never failed...NEVER! Two years and counting. One of my lights has a real cool gouge in the housing from a real uncool crash, still works, nuff said.
Weaknesses:	The battery terminals are kind of a pain to get connected to the correct light. It’s not really a weakness, more of a nuisance. I work with Molex terminals at work so it was as simple switch to reverse the gender on the low beam lamp terminals to make plugging in a no brainer. It would also be nice if the high beam switch wiring were a little more flexible as to accommodate various handle bar widths.
Similar Products Used:	None, why waste money on the inferior.
Bottom Line:	When I bought this light, I was asking the LBS owner why I should buy this brand. He showed me in his office several NightRider lights that he USED to carry that were DOA and needing warranty work. Obviously he will not be having to apologize to me about 1st price- 2nd quality merchandise, cuz this light rocks.thanks Mike!
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Submitted by Aaron Baker a Cross Country Rider from Lubbock, Texas, Lubbock Date Reviewed: September 9, 2004
Favorite Trail:	Any trail in the 4 corner area (New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, Arizona)
Duration Product Used:	Less than 1 month
Price Paid:	$276.00
Purchased At:	TurboCats
Strengths:	Bright, Long Lasting, Very very very reliable.
Weaknesses:	Hah!!! uhu, nothing
Similar Products Used:	no good cateye opticube, but what do you expect to get when you only pay $50. BUT, Good for safety with the flash.
Bike Setup:	TREK 4500, rock shox judy TT fork, shimano xc parts, off brand clip in pedals.
Bottom Line:	This light is by far the best light out there. Even though this is my first "REAL" light setup, I already know that this light is the best. There is no way that there is a better light system out there. This light is "CRAZY" bright. The First night i used this light i went to ride with two friends of mine and they rode on both side of me and i had enough light from the flood alone to guide all three of us for way more than the light is supposed to go. Also, the customer service is like no other. Elaine is awsome. she answered all of my questions then explained things that i needed to know that were more helpful than she could know. If you don't have the money for this light, then save up, if you buy a cheaper light, WELL "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!"
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Submitted by Matt a Racer from Stanford, CA Date Reviewed: January 22, 2004
Favorite Trail:	Skeggs aka ECDM
Duration Product Used:	Less than 1 month
Price Paid:	$40.00
Purchased At:	eBay
Strengths:	Durability, simplicity, light weight, great light output.
Weaknesses:	Price of replacement parts.
Similar Products Used:	Many smaller lights
Bike Setup:	Many :)
Bottom Line:	These lights were designed by engineers for engineers. They are beautiful in their simplicity. And even if the elegant engineering doesn't mean anything to you, you'll love the light weight, even light output, and durability. I got a used S25 on eBay with a dead lead acid water bottle battery. As with just about all lights, replacement batteries are crazy expensive and they don't even make the lead acid water bottle battery any more. However, replacing the guts of the battery with NiMH cells is relatively simple. The only challenge was finding a truly smart, fast, NiMH charger, something almost impossible to find from a light company. Batteryspace.com hooked me up with 2 NiMH packs and a charger for less than $60. For what it's worth, the lead acid battery pack and charger that came with the Turbocat was a great system, it was just dead when I got it, probably from abuse (over discharging). 5 Chilis overall, but I'm glad I didn't pay full price.
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Submitted by Tom a Cross Country Rider from Raleigh Date Reviewed: October 26, 2003
Favorite Trail:	commute to work
Duration Product Used:	6 months
Price Paid:	$230.00
Purchased At:	TurboCat, direct
Strengths:	High quality construction, very bright 15 Watt bulb, good battery life. Comes with two lights - the 10 Watt is probably adequate for most rides. Velcro fasteners work just fine.
Weaknesses:	TurboCat doesn't make a really good taillight. They should.
Similar Products Used:	Little LED flashers.
Bike Setup:	15 Watt bulb hanging beneath my handlebars on my touring bike. 10 Watt bulb sticking out from my left handlebar grip, pointed backwards, with a clear red lens over it. I now have a very bright taillight! NiCad battery is good for morning and evening commute, 45 minutes each way.
Bottom Line:	Unless you ride 40 mph continuously, the 15 watt spot light is about all you need pointing forward. And until TurboCat makes a good tailight, I'll keep my 10 watt flood pointed backwards, and my friends tell me they can see me a mile away. TurboCat's bulb really illuminates the road surface, much better than the HID lamps and LEDs do. When the battery gets low, the 15 watt goes out, but the 10 watt hangs in there anouther 15 minutes or so. Plug-and-forget-about-it rechargable battery is nice. If my commute were a full hour, maybe I'd need their Macho battery. If I went at 40 mph through the woods, maybe I'd like something brighter. If you commute in the dark and even rain, as I do, this does the trick!
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Submitted by Mick a Weekend Warrior from Lenexa, KS, USA Date Reviewed: July 31, 2003
Duration Product Used:	3 months
Price Paid:	$220.00
Strengths:	High quality machined parts, velcro strap mounting system remarkably secure.
Weaknesses:	Light housings can get warm - instructions recommend not using the high beam when not moving. Macho battery is heavy (44 oz.)
Bike Setup:	2002 Giant XTC NRS Air
Bottom Line:	These lights are awesome. I have done two street / trail night rides this season. Low beam is great for 95% of riding - when the pace quickens, just punch the high beam button and burn the sky! All accessories are included to protect the frame paint and to secure all wires. EZ-on, EZ-off.
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Submitted by dookie b a Cross Country Rider from riverside ca usa Date Reviewed: July 2, 2003
Favorite Trail:	just ride
Duration Product Used:	2 Years
Price Paid:	$170.00
Purchased At:	woodcrest bikes
Strengths:	bright, durable, easy to operate
Weaknesses:	velcro bar mounts
Similar Products Used:	none
Bike Setup:	03 giant nrs2, 03 giant warp ds1 on steroids, supergo access single speed
Bottom Line:	Most of my buddies use night rider, and I hope they all regret it. It seems that every ride someone with night riders have some kind of failure. Not so with the turbocats. They have been totally reliable the whole time. Everyone I know who uses them have had no problems what so ever. My only complaint is the velcro bar straps. It is hard to get them tight enough so they wont move around when it gets really bumpy. Invest in the cnc quick release, and no more problem. Great product, great price, get them.
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Submitted by david a Weekend Warrior from va Date Reviewed: April 9, 2003
Favorite Trail:	belle isle
Duration Product Used:	1 Year
Price Paid:	$150.00
Purchased At:	Bikefactory
Strengths:	It is light weight very reliable. Customer service is unreal. They are great people to deal with.
Weaknesses:	I have not found one yet.
Bike Setup:	Rocky Mountain pipeline
Bottom Line:	The light is awsome. I can not say enough about it. The customer service at Turbocat is unreal. I also have there helmet light and I lost the strap that you can use to velcro the the cord to the back of the helmet and they sent me another one free. Before I purchased the lights I also called them to explain a couple things about them and they took the time to answer ever question. They are the best.
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Submitted by Bryan a Weekend Warrior from Springfield, VA Date Reviewed: March 17, 2002
Duration Product Used:	1 Year
Price Paid:	$300.00
Purchased At:	Bluesky Bicycles
Strengths:	Very bright light, solid construction, and great attachment devices (using the quick release, not the velcro).
Weaknesses:	Price, battery weight(upgrades available).
Similar Products Used:	Cheap Cateye light
Bike Setup:	Specilized Rockhopper for the off-road trails and a Specialized Allez Sport III for the road.
Bottom Line:	Great product. This is an investment piece for your bike. The best overall setup for offroading is the low/high beam for the bars with the additional helment mounted light. Gives you great depth and turns the night into day. You won't need to use the high beam too much but comes in handy if your eyes start playing tricks on you the trail. Now that I have a road bike and see people riding home with flashlights taped on their helments and handlebars, I have to laugh. These lights put the others to shame. Very solid/compact construction with a very bright, white light. Get the upgraded batteries if you have the $$$. The helment light battery is a bit bulky. For the money, these are the way to go.
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Submitted by Brian a Cross Country Rider from San Diego, CA Date Reviewed: July 12, 2001
Duration Product Used:	Less than 1 month
Price Paid:	$220.00
Purchased At:	http://www.turbocatusa.com/
Strengths:	Bright. Light. Looks f'in cool. Adjustable. Able to blind punkass motorist who shoot their brights at you.
Weaknesses:	Battery is average. Wish the flood lights were a bit brighter and covered more. Cabling is a bit flimsy. Standard Velcro light is worth ditching for CNC quick releases
Similar Products Used:	Big ass flood flash light straped on with ductape.
Bike Setup:	Schwinn S-20, carbon Y'ish frame.
Bottom Line:	Yeah, they're worth if you're going to invest in any kind of lighting. Nicest thing about this is that you can point both lights in different directions. And they look so friggin' professional. You almost feel like a wuss riding with this light on; it's that bright.
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Submitted by Anton a Cross Country Rider from MSP, MN USA Date Reviewed: August 31, 2000
Favorite Trail:	Rwy 22, MSP Inl Arpt
Duration Product Used:	3 months
Price Paid:	$219.00
Purchased At:	turbocatusa.com
Strengths:	Military-grade construction, military-grade appearance, bright enough to blind from 30 feet away.
Weaknesses:	No ideal mounting or wiring system is readily available for a Y-frame bike. Will not ignite dry leaves from 30 feet away.
Similar Products Used:	Some cheap Specialized AA-battery clip-on.
Bike Setup:	Y11, various flashy aftermarket garbage.
Bottom Line:	These are lovely lights whose appearance is either jewel-like or HK-MP5-like, I'm not sure which. The aluminum gets hot after a short time, though not really as hot as the anti-lawsuit warnings in the manual would make it seem. Riding through heavy downpours results in steaming lights, which is amusing. I wish there was a better way of mounting the battery, besides the Twofish seatpost bottle holder, which tends to change position at inopportune moments while crashing down staircases. The lights are bright as hell, and I rarely find that I need more illumination during my 8 mile ride home from work at around 10 pm each night. If, however, you're like me, in that your ego is stroked by having the most powerful products available, splurge for the S47 (I wish I had, but I felt like I was splurging for the S25, a purchase that I now regret spending so little on). First of all, the aluminum quick-release for the S47 looks marginally cooler. Second of all, if it's more powerful than the S25, it must be pretty damn bright. Considering that I really don't need more power, and that this need is only borne of a perverse need to one-up my fellow riders, I'll have to give them a 5 for meeting my needs. 5 for value too, which I would not have understood before using them regularly.
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Submitted by Andrew a Racer from Zurich, Switzerland Date Reviewed: June 28, 2000
Favorite Trail:	Bachtel
Duration Product Used:	1 Year
Strengths:	Look good, function well, well built (CNC machined), very bright white light, light is even and almost perfectly circular, excellent battery, no frills - just lights!
Weaknesses:	Not cheap, tend to slip around a bit on the handlebars when not really really tightly mounted.
Similar Products Used:	Tacky cheap products not worth mentioning.
Bike Setup:	A fast one
Bottom Line:	See strengths. I did a comparison between my S25s and a friends Vista lights that have the same 'claimed' output power and battery specs and noticed the following: 1) Vista lights were not as bright (not even close in fact) 2) The Vista beam was yellow in colour, not white 3) The Vista beam was not as even and not circular 4) The Vista battery did not have the same life span as the TurboCat one. I think the operation times TC quote are quite conservative. To add some extra TC kudos, I swapped the battery from a Lead acid to the NiCad and paid the difference. When I had a problem with the charger possibly being different I spoke to the rep (in Switzerland) who directly and immediately contacted TC in the US. I spoke to the guys there personally and my incompatibilty fears were dissolved immediately by there assurances. Very professional. Two thumbs up for TC. If I had the cash I would get the helmet mounted light as well to make a perfect night trail blazing combo.
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Submitted by Dean a Cross Country Rider from Oakland, CA Date Reviewed: January 14, 2000
Duration Product Used:	3 months
Strengths:	Solid, compact package with exceptionally durable construction. Super bright dual beam, and efficient single beam for varying conitions. Uncompromising use of materials and workmanship.
Weaknesses:	None
Bottom Line:	Highly recommend this package with the QR's. The single beam is great for cruising and climbing, and w/ the dual beam you can see well enoungh to bomb anything but the twisty single-track. Shop around, you won't find a better system than this one, even at full retail price. Read up on theirs/others products and you'll know why this is a superior system http://www.turbocatusa.com/home.html
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Submitted by mOOse a Weekend Warrior from New Albany, IN Date Reviewed: November 19, 1999
Favorite Trail:	Can't tell ya!
Duration Product Used:	less than 1 month
Strengths:	Light housings, CNC machined quick release, cableing, run time, adjustibility
Weaknesses:	Battery weight, charger
Bike Setup:	Trek 4000
Bottom Line:	I got my light setup for an unbelievably good price. I love them! The light is good, white light, with decent spread. This light is SOLID. The machined aluminum housings are sturdy. My only complaint is with the SLA Macho battery that came with the lights - a VERY heavy frame mounted bag. But the run time is excellent, so it's not too big of a deal. If/when I have to replace it, it won't be too a big of a deal to upgrade to a WB mounted NiCD. The cabling/wiring doesn't use those squiggley phone cords, either! TurboCat's customer service was GREAT at answering my questions (thanks, Elayne!) and responded quickly to my needs. One other thing: Get the CNC machined quick releases! These little things are fantastic, and make mounting and adjusting you lights a breeze!Five flaming burritos for the TurboCat!
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Submitted by Jesse Laird a Cross-Country Rider from Corvallis, OR Date Reviewed: July 23, 1999
Favorite Trail:	Phil's Trail (Bend, OR)
Duration Product Used:	2 Years
Strengths:	Everything! (well built, well built, well built....performs wonderfully. Price is an excellent value....
Weaknesses:	It's too much better than the competition to compete.
Similar Products Used:	VistaLite (little crappy yellow thing that broke before I left the store)
Bike Setup:	Trek 7k
Bottom Line:	I was on the rowing team for two years at school, which meant riding to and from practice in rain and mud at all hours. Lighting was more than a nice thing--it was a requirement. I decided for safety and convenience, a rechargable battery and high-power light would be the best. (not one of those other cheap flashlights that mount to your handlebars and are so dim, I doubt a car could see you coming) I tried the VistaLite that had a really cool clamp mechanism, but it broke as I went out the door of the shop. This one....it's so terrific. I have yet to spend any significant amount of money on upgrades for my current bike, but I would GLADLY spend the same amount as I did on another Turbocat. The quality is unmached. It's simple, elegant, and most importantly, performs well consistently. I have never had it break, despite many, many rides in less-than ideal conditions. You could buy a lesser light, but why? You're worth this light. 5 flaming pickles for a product I'd eat ramen noodles for a month to save up for.
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Submitted by Rat a Weekend Warrior from Basel/CH Date Reviewed: July 9, 1999
Duration Product Used:	3 months
Strengths:	excellent quality high-beam switch mounts easily great customer support
Weaknesses:	no upgrade path
Similar Products Used:	the usual low-tech lights
Bike Setup:	Scott Fully
Bottom Line:	As other reviewers wrote, this light is right. Everything is great, even their customer support is responsive and helpful. I soon found that the lights are not bright enough, but there's no way to upgrade to a stronger model S32 or S47. (This is not so much TurboCat's fault but due to different voltages.) Unless you are sure the S25 delivers for you (it usually should), consider going with the S32. However, no matter what light you choose, be sure it says TurboCat on it. I'm thoroughly impressed with the quality (crash-proven), design and ease of use.
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Submitted by Sean a cross-country rider from CA Date Reviewed: January 31, 1999
Bottom Line:	This is the strongest light i've ever used. I have one of those nicad batteries so they last long too. The lower 10 watt beam illuminates the ground great up to 30 feet away. The large 15 watt beam can point straight ahead up to about 150 ft, maybe more. They're very easy to install so I can take them off whenever I don't want to carry the extra weight of the nicad. The lights themselves are very light. 5 chillys from me.
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Submitted by Andy a cross-country rider from CA Date Reviewed: January 31, 1999
Bottom Line:	There are very few bike components that are so close to just right. It is tiny, light weight, beautiful, bright, energy efficient, durable, and completely easy to work with, adjust, and intall/deinstall. The beam pattern is a smooth round texturless blob of clean pure white light, and I always get well over three hours out of the low beam. The other things that are good about all of the TurboCat stuff is what they do not have. A bike light does not need to be engineered to withstand being parked on by a semi truck, it does not need a complex bunch of electronics to cycle through a bunch of different settings, and it does not need eight feet of rubbery coils of wire. This light is great for tight single track and fast fire road descents, and all my friends' lights are bigger, uglier, plastic, yellower, more comlex, heavier, and have less reliable hardware, not to mention the fact that they can't run their high beams if they want any light left at the end of the ride. By the way, pay the extra for the cool little machined quick release! It is super strong, and makes putting on the light as easy as thinking. I give chilis away sparringly, but this product deserves all five.
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Submitted by tom a racer from manchester new hampshire Date Reviewed: December 14, 1998
Bottom Line:	these lights are cool, i went out with a guy who had cyglo's, his ended up running out half way through the ride and he had to ride along side me just to get back. they were definatly bright enough for the both of us. i also got a flat and because you can rotate them 180 degrees i had no problem seeing the back wheel which was a plus. again, these lights are cool. i reccomend them, trouble free reliable.
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Submitted by Mike a weekend warrior from Bolingbrook, IL Date Reviewed: November 19, 1998
Bottom Line:	I read the rating of your product in bicycling magazine last year and bought the S25. I was not dissapointed, the system held up great in all conditions.I ride my local single every weekend at night. I rode over logs,water,mud this system is quality. If anyone looked at other lighting systems they would find a mass prduced product lacking in the true needs of cyclists.
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Submitted by Troy B. a weekend warrior from Spld., IL Date Reviewed: August 27, 1998
Bottom Line:	They are made to last... They have good people making them. They are a small company that make a good product and they are a good customer service company what more could you ask for??? Also there quick release system is the best made. NO plastic here!!! Like I said they making to last long time. And the weight is lite on these. I also own the TG15 it is a good product. Two thumbs up from me and well worth the money!!!! Thank you Turbo Cat!!!!!!!!
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Submitted by J a cross-country rider from Connecticut Date Reviewed: March 30, 1998
Bottom Line:	I would highly recommend this light to anyone interested in riding at night. I can cruise along with the low beam (10watt) on and go almost full tilt when I turn on the high beam (both 15watt and 10watt) on familiar trails. My 6watt micro halogen CatEye seem like a joke compared to the S25 setup. Of course nothing this wonderful comes cheap. I paid $189 for the two lights and a Macho battery (the largest battery they offer), but I've been completely satisfied so far. Everything staps on with velcro which make for easy on/off and the lights are separate units so you can aim them anywhere. I set it so the low beam spot hit the ground in front of me and then the high beam just above the low beam spot. What's also nice is that the high beam has a remote on/off button that you velcro to your handlebar near your thumb. I find the beams to be wide enough that I think a head mounted lamp would be more of a luxury than a necessity with these bad boys. I haven't wiped out with them yet (not that I'm planning to either :-) so I don't know how they'll hold up to a good digger but they seem to be pretty tough. Won't ride at night with out them anymore.
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Submitted by jeff a cross-country rider from michigan Date Reviewed: February 18, 1998
Bottom Line:	The turbocat is the best light on the market. After buying a #%@! vista light 430L (not sure thats the right model number) for $190 and having the plastic mounts break off on both lights. I reseached the bicycle lighting market and found the $220 turbocat S25 to the best constructed and thought out product anywhere. The difference in quality between the two is night and day. (pun intended)
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Submitted by Steve Brown a racer from Phoenix Arizona Date Reviewed: January 17, 1998
Bottom Line:	I recently purchased the S25 TurboCat Light system. I had never ridden off-road at night and had wanted to try it. I installed the system in about 2 minutes. It uses a velcro strap with a rubber C shap mount and really does clamp securely to the handlebars. I rode a medium difficult trail that I knew real well. I was surprised at how just the low beam was enough to light the way at slow speeds. But kick in the 15 watt bright beam with the 10 watt low and the night really lights up so I could go almost as fast as I do during the day. The only rub I found was that the run time is drastically shortened when you run both lights (a little over an hour). Also, I learned that it is probably a real good idea to invest in a helmet mounted light as well. When you're riding you probably don't realize how many handle steering corrections you make. Every time you steer briefly around a rock (which your lights let you see) your lights point off the trail. You can still ride but I know I am going to pay the extra money and get a helmet mounted light to go along with my S25 on the handle bars. After riding, the lights come off as easy as they went on and recharging doesn't seem to be much of a chore (although the 18 hour recharge time does seem long). I recommend the S25 as a good way to give you riding time off or on road.
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