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  • Flip-flop design
  • High durability pad compound
  • Comfort lever blade
  • Mini single piston caliper


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    Submitted by Matthias Eklund a Weekend Warrior from Rochester, NY
    Date Reviewed: October 4, 2008
    Favorite Trail:anything except crazy climbing
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Purchased At:came stock my 06 Kon
    Strengths:hmmmmm...........NONE
    Weaknesses:Everything else
    Similar Products Used:Lots of mechs, V's, Juicys, and Hayes 9
    Bike Setup:manitou nixon, gravity bars, nokian tyres.
    Bottom Line:These are the sh*ttiest hydros around. The adjuster on my pads froze up, they squeek like hell, and they don't even stop u!!!! If these came stock on your bike, upgrade now!! These brakes are not worth it. Saving for sum Maguras.
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by AndrewThommo a Weekend Warrior from Sydney
    Date Reviewed: September 18, 2008
    Favorite Trail:My one
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Purchased At:Cell Bikes
    Strengths:Was good for city runs until I started cycling on trails.
    Weaknesses:Well it failed. I think the reservior cap came off and then as I pulled the brake lever, it started squirting like a water pistol, which I thought was funny.
    Similar Products Used:I upgraded to one Juicy seven for the front when I changed fork.
    Bike Setup:Cell bikes bike, pretty basic. Upgraded to Manitou Minute air forks.
    Bottom Line:It failed. But would have been good if I just kept riding to uni in the city.
    Value Rating:3Overall Rating:2

    Submitted by Thrillseeker123 a Cross Country Rider from Buford,GA
    Date Reviewed: July 28, 2008
    Favorite Trail:Bull Mountain
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Purchased At:REI
    Strengths:Brakes are good when they are working
    Weaknesses:Needs big improvement...after 5 mounts problems started to show. Reservoir cap got busted on the front first then on the rear it's sucked. I was on the trail and need to ride next 8 miles only on one brake.
    Bike Setup:Stock K2 Zed 4.0
    Bottom Line:Brakes are o.k. as I said when they are working but that's about it... to many problems!
    Value Rating:2Overall Rating:2

    Submitted by DC a Weekend Warrior from BC
    Date Reviewed: July 23, 2008
    Favorite Trail:Pidherny
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Purchased At:Northern Hardware
    Strengths:None
    Weaknesses:Consistency, power, pad life, basically everything you want in a good set of brakes.
    Similar Products Used:Shimano XT (2007), Hayes HMX-1, Juicy 7's (which replaced my Soles) and various V's.
    Bike Setup:2007 Norco Six 3, ODI's, Avid Juicy 7's, DMR Headstock stem and V12 pedals.
    Bottom Line:These brakes weren't too bad in the beginning but they were nowhere as strong or consistent as my XT's with 6" rotors on my other bike. They quickly got worse and provided inconsistent performance with severe fading on moderate downhill runs. I recently replaced them with the Juicy 7's and the improvement is night and day. If you have these on your bike look to replace them with something else. My Hayes HMX-1 cable discs were at least as strong and far more consistent. The pad life (although subjective) was discouraging with less than 2 months between pad changes (by constrast my XT's are still going strong in the same conditions).
    Bottom line: Not recommended for any style of riding due primarily to their inconsistent performance.
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by dlyrdr a Weekend Warrior from Fort Collins, Co. USA
    Date Reviewed: July 23, 2008
    Favorite Trail:Evening ride around Horsetooth
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Purchased At:Lee's Cycle
    Strengths:Pretty good for the first 4-5 months
    Weaknesses:Brake failure without warning!!! Difficult to bleed. Company is impossible to work with.
    Similar Products Used:First hydraulic setup, came on bike factory
    Bike Setup:'07 GF Tassajara, Manitou 100mm fork no other mods
    Bottom Line:Front brake failed without warning! I thought it just needed to be bled, but I couldn't get the bleed kit to work very well. Took it to the shop, still didn't work. Waited a month for a lever from Hayes, and didn't fix the problem. Lee's cycle was great and just replaced the front brake with a Juicy five. Seems to working 10 times better than Hayes ever did, despite a little bit more squealing. Basically, these brakes worked okay for the first bit and then became a serious safety liability! Stay away from these brakes!
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by STEVENSAN a Cross Country Rider from BC
    Date Reviewed: July 23, 2008
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Purchased At:came with bike
    Strengths:they protect the shifters
    Weaknesses:Poor stopping power,pain to bleed and the screw that tightens it to the handle bars didn`t really tighten. The fluid medium DOT 3, not the most user friendly stuff
    Similar Products Used:none
    Bike Setup:kona hoss.dirt jumper forks
    Bottom Line:They were adequate for the first few months, then they started to give me nothing but ploblems. I never knew for sure what was going to happen when I squeezed the levers. It was kind of like weak anti-lock brakes, they just kind of slowed you down. I didn`t have confidence in them going down big hills. I swapped them out with shimano BR-535s. It`s like night and day
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by kikapukikapu a Weekend Warrior from
    Date Reviewed: July 15, 2008
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Purchased At:The Hub - came stock
    Strengths:Easy to adjust. Marginally better than good Vs. Reliable (Ie not needed much maintenance)
    Weaknesses:They are ONLY just better than good Vs. Big descents seem to kill them (you'll need to adjust the pads at the bottom). Guessing they are pretty heavy. Everything stock on my Kikapu DLX seems heavy!
    Bike Setup:Stock Kikapu DLX bar upgraded tyres and brakes.
    Bottom Line:I knew these were one of the weak links on my bike, but it was a steal so I could accept an upgrade was coming. If they come stock you can live with them, but dont consider buying them on their own, even though they are cheap.
    Value Rating:3Overall Rating:2

    Submitted by Deano the Machino a Weekend Warrior from brisbane qld australia
    Date Reviewed: July 14, 2008
    Favorite Trail:any that makes me happy
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Purchased At:Came stock
    Strengths:Better than nothing at all i guess
    Weaknesses:spongy,fiddly,noisy and inconsistent just to name a few
    Similar Products Used:Dia comp tech 99 u brakes
    Bike Setup:Basically stock 07 I-Drive 7 2.0
    Bottom Line:These were my first ever hydraulic disc brakes,i was really excited to harness the so called raw power of the hydraulic disc brake. I must admit i was more than a bit disappointed. I remember setting up my old u brakes on my mirra 540 air that ran rings around these brakes. The front ones are pretty good but the back ones seem a little bit soft and i dont see any pad adjustment at all. But apparently these brakes are pretty bad so im hoping the Avid Code 5s im buyin will give me that "holy **** these are powerful" feel i want so much :)
    Value Rating:2Overall Rating:2

    Submitted by MrSynthpop a Weekend Warrior from Southampton
    Date Reviewed: July 11, 2008
    Favorite Trail:any long distance
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Price Paid: $100.00
    Purchased At:Stock on bike
    Strengths:Stop you better than mechanical units and works in the wet unlike v brakes, cheap and relatively cheerful
    Weaknesses:Noisy, need to clean and adjust fairly often to reduce the noise, boils if you hammer it downhill, not all that great compared to high end hydraulics,
    Similar Products Used:Avid BB5s, Tektro IO, lots of cheap V's, friends Magura Martas (nice)
    Bike Setup:Mounted on my Hardrock with Marzocchi GF2 fork and Deore/xt throughout.
    Bottom Line:Not a bad set of budget hydraulics and better than the lower/medium end mechanical systems, demands care and attention, not great for anything other than XC/trail work and don't expect to be doing much downhill before you cook them. Modulation is iffy at first but improves with adjustment and care. They work but don't buy if you are too lazy to maintain them, seem to get really poor reviews as people get them with their entry level bikes and then moan when they have to put some effort in.
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:3

    Submitted by lebikerboy a Weekend Warrior from North Van
    Date Reviewed: June 23, 2008
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Strengths:There aren't any.
    Weaknesses:Power, modulation, reliability, you name it and the So1e hasn't got it.
    Similar Products Used:Shimano,Avid,Magura, etc.
    Bike Setup:2006 Norco Fluid 2, which is my wife's bike.
    Bottom Line:When we purchased this bike for my wife the only component on the bike that I was concerned about was the brakes. My concern was justified. I've never seen a set of brakes that were crappy right from the start and definitely didn't get any better. Luckily my LBS is a good one so they swapped out the So1e's for some Shimano's and now life is good.
    For anyone who says these are good brakes (and I know there's a few reviews to that effect), can you show me one decent 2008 bike where they've been spec'd as OEM?
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Chris a Downhiller from winnipeg, mb, canada
    Date Reviewed: June 16, 2008
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Purchased At:woodcock cycleworks
    Strengths:good for beginners, as i progressed i realized how bad these brakes are
    Weaknesses:squeak like a mother, just slow you down they dont stop you
    Similar Products Used:none
    Bike Setup:kona scrap w/ pike
    Bottom Line:if this comes stock on your bike try to make it one of the first things you upgrade.

    whatever you do don't upgrade to these brakes
    Value Rating:2Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Andrew a Weekend Warrior from Moscow, Russia
    Date Reviewed: June 1, 2008
    Favorite Trail:From forest on grandmas and dogs
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Purchased At:Velomir
    Strengths:They looks like they are real.
    Weaknesses:When you try to brake - they moan. or Squeal - pick up what bests. Afrer year they screams the same. Every time BEFORE ride you have to test all screws on it. else - prepare to crawl to a hospital AFTER. oh. they tend to die suddenly.
    Similar Products Used:Large number of V's - they were better!
    Bike Setup:Atom FR3 '2005 (Atom is kinda Russian like brand - at least the bikes has not sqiuare weels)
    Bottom Line:In early spring of 2007 i came to a bicycle shop. Sale!! sale!!! You can get a disk-hydro-brakes full suspension bike just for 500 USD! We tried to sell it for 1000, but none was so stupid for a two years. Maybie, you will be the that poor-man trying to get a bike looks-like-real? Of course, it was not told, but it was the plot of salesman.

    After having several crashes of old merida fireball's ('2000) brakes, wheels, rear suspension, - i expected that nothing can be worse.
    (Atom Fr3 looks like Iron Horce Ignition, but with sram 5 - sram7 shifters, and our hero - hayes sole.)

    After 2 months, my rear brake went off. When i looked close on this system, i guessed that screw in lever lost its position. OK, after working on dying merida, it was easy deal. A PRECISION screwdriver helped a lot.
    A week later, 100 Km after. Same problem. Damn! why do i have to carry a special screwdriver to fix my bike ewerywhere?
    Soon, i realized that one screw was only top of an iceberg...

    From a second day of usage, the brakes started to produce a lots of noise. I cannot pick correct word. Seems like you had run ower a hedgehog, it lasts on your weels, when you ran ower a doesen of squerrels. Add a kitten for taste.
    Maybie, if you get old grandma's car, made in 1970's which stood in a garage for all years, the braking sound will be the same... when it do some work.
    When you have a car, it can take some KM (10-20) to make brakes work without a noise.

    I got alcohol 70%. After an hour riding, the brakes noise came back. I got 100% isopropyl alcohol. And won another hour.
    Changed pads. after a day, screams returned. It was puzzling me, but i left on these. It works? yes. Works better that old 2000-year tektro V's? NO! what-can-i-do? Vot-Ki-Nai-DU (russian). Will i find some vodka....- supply for my brakes? stupid idea. I Left it as is.

    Rider with a presision screwdrewer set, wearing civil clothes (just not to look like an idiot, when brakes fails somewhere again and you hawe to walk home with helpless bike) with ISOPROPYL alcohol in his pockets... can you imagine it?

    Screws. I had problems with screws on levers' fasteners and the regulation screw from 3rd month. on front and rear brakes. they all tend to unscrew.
    sadly to say, i hadn't fallen off this bike at all. My brakes didn't allow me to run fast. So, what's the matter of failures? - i don't know.

    A year had pased. 1500 Km on my odometer.
    After a 3 months of well (3 of 5 points) work, my front brake started to... fade away. I press on lever. does not work. I press with a force. it creaks. speed? nothing generally changes. Some wild dogs was injured because of my brakes and big hills. Lucky, they haven't an advocat.

    Somehow i got home... I get off front wheel... pressing the lever, i noticed strange behavior. left pad cames to right..
    Stop! how does it do? in slow-motion, please... Mammy! mummy! ass-with-ears!! Left pad comes to right at a little angle. What does it mean? all the force you send on brakes is used not to stop the disk but to clasp "Free" one end of left pad to right.
    Removing pads. unscrewed from right completely. This is it. Piston came wry. in some poit of it was 2.5 mm to opening. on other - almost 4 mm. The force brake can produse, just lost it way to work. Reasons? 1500 km... I had enough. Just decided not to get ANY hayes components at all. If they mae that so bad, i cannot rely on them.

    Today i tried to bleed the system, to make sure that i did all my best.. To bleed the system i had to unscrew one nipple on the caliper... And it took wery, wery STRONG linking to caliper. Because of anti-ice reagents! I can only drill it off. Dead end. Dead for "Hayes So1e"

    Anyway, tommorow i will spend all my year sawings on pair good brakes, juicy 5 or 7, i mean.

    ****
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    You can ride it for 1-2-3 motnths, ONLY if you DO like your new bike. After what, you'll HAWE to get or Avid BB5 (funny, but they work MUCH better), or spend some lots of money on a real disk hydro brakes.

    DO NOT buy it for any money, at least you're not a bike-bdsm fan!
    Value Rating:2Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Martin a Weekend Warrior from Quebec, Canada
    Date Reviewed: May 25, 2008
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Purchased At:Came with bike
    Strengths:Simple design for all I know
    Weaknesses:Pads wear off easily, levers have to be constantly adjusted, adjustments to caliper must be made frequently
    Similar Products Used:V-Brakes
    Bike Setup:Norco Six 3 2006 Stock
    Bottom Line:I've used these brakes for 1 year (meaning 1 summer of 4 months here in Quebec) on a light freeride bike, doing freeride (no light here). I weight 180 lbs and my bike roughly 43 lbs, total: 223 lbs to stop when needed, and theses brakes don't do the thing at all!

    For the first year it was ok, didn't go fast so didn't have to brake all that much. But now starting my second year of use I find out that they need an awful lot of adjustments all the time. I even had to take a chairlift DOWN the mountain once because I didn't thrust them on the way down.

    Invest a little more and spare yourself the trouble
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Daniel Sharpe a Weekend Warrior from Orillia
    Date Reviewed: May 25, 2008
    Favorite Trail:Hardwood Hills
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Strengths:Great stopping power.
    Weaknesses:Rear brake has a tendency to make a chattering sound.
    Similar Products Used:Hayes HMX-1
    Bike Setup:06 Enduro
    Bottom Line:I don't understand how some people here say these don't have stopping power. The only thing I can think of is they must have applied WD-40, or some other lubricant to their brake pads, or, the levers were not adjusted properly. I am 160lbs, on a 35b bike, and have never needed to use more than my pointing finger on both front and rear levers. For the price they are excellent. Of course, if you have money to blow, go buy Juicy's.
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by Payland a from Piraeus
    Date Reviewed: May 22, 2008
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Strengths:their color is black...i think
    Weaknesses:no stopping power
    Similar Products Used:foot
    Bike Setup:kona cowan
    Bottom Line:i don't do much xtreme DH and stuff but these brakes nearly cost me days in the hospital.a friend gave me these for free to change my shimano m525 brakes..not for long.these brakes WONT STOP YOU!i pulled the levers with all my strength and with minimum speed,and they still counldnt stop me. S**T!!my shimano looked like 6-piston GRSXR 1000's brake to them.holy s**t!dont worth the money even if they are free!
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Mazekwon a Weekend Warrior from Saskatoon
    Date Reviewed: May 5, 2008
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Purchased At:Came With Bik
    Strengths:Good, Enough, well broke within a couple months
    Weaknesses:Always having to adjust the lever, some people don't know this and i wouldn't of either, there is a 2mm hex key in the lever to adjust the position of the handle, if it bounces it losens up which brings it closer to the handle which in turn doesn't fully compress the calliper so that is why people often don't think there brakes are working. FYI, doens't change the fact that it sucks, and my line burst simply while using them
    Bike Setup:Schiwnn Rocket Pro, Drop Off Triple, Manitou Rear shock, Mavic rims, WTB Raptor tires
    Bottom Line:Adjustment is tedious, brakes are alright, depends on what you want to spend you could get better, and you probably should, after all brakes are VERY Important
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:3

    Submitted by Kyle a Cross Country Rider from USA
    Date Reviewed: April 30, 2008
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Purchased At:came stock
    Strengths:they stop you, look alright I guess, none others
    Weaknesses:these were my first discs, so when I first got them I was praising them. Now, the realization has dawned on me that these things are crap. They squeek real loud, you have to pull em to the bar to make yourself stop unless you are going real slow, and I dont weigh that much so thats saying something. They shudder pretty bad, which makes me really nervous( I think it is the brakes, if it is the headset i'm in trouble...). I am most likely going to upgrade.
    Similar Products Used:V-Brakes
    Bike Setup:Marin Palisades Trail, Marz MZ Race, Shimano LX rear derraileur , deore front, hayes sole
    Bottom Line:Not worth it. Scary. I would say if you are doing really light XC riding, they would be okay. Not good for a heavier rider.
    Value Rating:2Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Denis a Weekend Warrior from Sydney
    Date Reviewed: February 19, 2008
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Strengths:Fairly powerful when they work, have some modulation, cheap...
    Weaknesses:Had the same problem as described by Robert Hamer! Firstly the bleeder plug of the rear brake went missing when my bike was being serviced by the bike shop causing all brake fluid to leak out and had to wait for components to be ordered in to fix problem.

    Then 2 weeks later I was riding down a hill when suddenly without warning my front brake failed instantly and i lost all braking power from my front brake. Had to lock up rear brake and slide 20 metres to stop.

    Definetely now will not recommend these brakes or any Hayes brakes.

    Prior to these incidents, brakes were always loud and making a grinding, vibrating noise when braking. (These are new brakes remember). This is the reason why I initially took bike back to bike shop.

    I have lost all confidence in these brakes. While they are powerfull when they work they can fail suddenly without warning - TAKE CARE.
    Similar Products Used:V-Brakes and Cantilever Brakes
    Bike Setup:Apollo Enduro '08
    Bottom Line:Came stock with bike. Don't rely on them, if you are doing serious cycling, these brakes won't cut it. Only for slow flat trails.
    Value Rating:3Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Robert Hamer a Weekend Warrior from Miami, FL USA
    Date Reviewed: February 18, 2008
    Favorite Trail:Oleta
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $1000.00
    Purchased At:Came With The Bike
    Strengths:When they work they work great. When they fail they collapse totally without warning
    Weaknesses:I have had these for less than 1 month and both the front brake failed and the rear brake failed on seperate occasions. I was told that the master cylinder failed on the first one. The same failure appears to be the culprit again. I was also told that the people at Hayes said I was braking too hard.
    Similar Products Used:None
    Bike Setup:Jamis Dakar stock out the door
    Bottom Line:Run for the hills...maybe you should walk. I would not recomend these to anyone. When these brakes fail there can be no prior indication. Both brake failures resulted in off trail crashes on otherwise novice-intermediate trails of flat terrain. Hayes had the incredible audacity to tell the shop that I had used the brakes to hard which is an amazing thing given the distance I was from them at the time of the failure. They must have a crystal ball or a paid subscription to google earth. Both brake failures appear to be identical in nature (the bleeder plug on the lever falls out preventing compression at the master cylinder)
    My shop repairs them for free and includes bandages which is a nice touch. Anyone have this type of failure?
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Jay Johnson a Cross Country Rider from texus
    Date Reviewed: February 17, 2008
    Favorite Trail:XC
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $300.00
    Purchased At:DJ Ryder
    Strengths:Great stopping distance,worth the money. Great feel of the brakes and levers. Reccommend to all!
    Weaknesses:Have to pull all the way into the bar
    Similar Products Used:Hayes 9, hope mono m4, v's
    Bike Setup:Specialized Hardrock 07 with marzocchi bombers
    Bottom Line:If you are new to offroad biking these brakes are for you! I love them and i have been riding offroad for 6 years. These may be entry level disc brakes but they are brillant!
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by dylan thayer a Weekend Warrior from Burlington
    Date Reviewed: February 5, 2008
    Favorite Trail:MY DIRT JUMPS
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Purchased At:Came with bike
    Strengths:Looks cool alright weight pretyy long lasting pads
    Weaknesses:single piston noisy
    Similar Products Used:hayes 9
    avid code
    couple others
    Bike Setup:Azonic steelhead, azonic outlaw, dirty chrome cranks, hayes brake, Marz drop off 2 fork fireeye components
    Bottom Line:good brake for the money but no to good
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:3

    Submitted by shiz shizz a Weekend Warrior from australia
    Date Reviewed: January 18, 2008
    Favorite Trail:bakyard
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Purchased At:came with bike
    Strengths:well they slow you down pretty quick and theyr not noisy
    Weaknesses:they dont lock up even if u sqeeze real hard
    Bike Setup:2007 kona scrap-----SICK
    Bottom Line:dont buy them there are better brakes on the market for the same price
    Value Rating:2Overall Rating:3

    Submitted by Ammar a Downhiller from Lake Grove
    Date Reviewed: January 6, 2008
    Favorite Trail:Diablo
    Duration Product Used:More than 3 years
    Purchased At:Came with Bike
    Strengths:good braking for about 2 years
    Weaknesses:They need to be adjusted constantly, leak fluid all the time.
    Similar Products Used:Avid Juicy 5
    Bike Setup:Giant AC, Full Custom FR/DH
    Bottom Line:Well, these brakes came with my bike, and I initially had no problem with them. Keep in mind that I weight only 137 pounds. I even took these brakes too diablo for the whole day. Had no problems, until recently. Aftet about three years of use, something has gone wrong with the front brake, and it's gone to shiit. They can not lock up while going down hills, or even road riding! My old v-brakes worked bettter!
    Value Rating:2Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by nz downhiller a Downhiller from new zealand
    Date Reviewed: December 16, 2007
    Favorite Trail:vic park
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Price Paid: $50.00
    Purchased At:trade me
    Strengths:they have none at all
    Weaknesses:every thing but mostly stopping power
    Similar Products Used:avid bb5
    Bike Setup:gt chucker 1.0 with marzocchi drop off triples and sun rim singlen track
    Bottom Line:not a very good brake no stopping power would rather have avid bb5
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:2

    Submitted by Grant a Downhiller from Albuquerque, NM, US
    Date Reviewed: December 12, 2007
    Favorite Trail:North Course
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Purchased At:came with bike
    Strengths:realitivly cheap, better than some v breaks
    Weaknesses:Not enough stopping power, lack of adjustability, I weigh 210 lbs and they can't stop me for crap even on flats.
    Bike Setup:Kona Hoss xt/truvative 100mm hardtail 6" discs
    Bottom Line:These just aren't worth is I had mecanical 6" discs on my Giant and they had a deal more power than these. Don't buy them, unless ur riding the dirt road by the ditch, and if they come sotck on your bike upgrade ASAP!
    Value Rating:2Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by luke ********* a Downhiller from barrington illinois USA
    Date Reviewed: December 12, 2007
    Favorite Trail:alpine/
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Purchased At:came stock on bike
    Strengths:nothing it looks ok w/ the bfl lever witch is what i have, i getting code 5's and im putting them on my xc bike w/ 8 inch rotors so there a little more powerfull
    Weaknesses:everything
    Similar Products Used:rim brakes on my sisters trek 3700, walmart brakes avid bb5
    Bike Setup:2006 specialized big hit 1, have some of theese and getting some in a couple weeks avid code 5's, super t or junior t, aznic strip, e 13 , crank bros 5050 fox van r nokian tires, pretty sweet ride
    Bottom Line:the suck dont buy em unless your doing xc riding and you dont have enough money to but juicys