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- Wheel Travel 6.0"
- Head Tube Angle (A) 68.0 Degrees
- Seat Tube Angle (B) 72.0 Degrees
- Chain Stay Length (C) 17.1"
- Seat Post Diameter 27.2mm
- Bottom Bracket Height (D) 14.25"
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Submitted by
MCC
a Weekend Warrior
from New York
Date Reviewed: August 12, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | cannonball trail | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$1499.00 | | Purchased At: | colorado cyclist | | Strengths: | Grease fittings and just the crafsmanship of the frame. | | Weaknesses: | none so far | | Similar Products Used: | Heckler, kona coiler | | Bike Setup: | XT all around, Marzocchi all mountain 1 with a coil upgrade in the right leg. F519 rims laced to a rear xt hub and a front chris king hub. Chris king headset, WTB motoraptor 2.25 raer 2.4 front. FOX DHX coil | | Bottom Line: | I built the bike fairly light about 33 pounds for a heavy duty trail bike. what drew me to this bike was the lomg top tube and it about 24". The bike just floats over the trail. Its heavier than my 2004 heckler but the ride cannot compare. The bike can be ridden cross country or light downhill and thats the beuty of this frame. If you are looking for a cross country racer this is not the bike but if your the type of person that just wants to chill and is not worried about heart rate and grams,this may be the bike for you. This bike shines when the trail gets technical.There have beeen times when I felt like i was gonna lose it and the bike just corrects itself. I ride a large and weigh about 190 with gear and use a 550lb spring. I was going to buy an Ellsworth moment but was hearing horror stories about the customer service.Dave turner backs his product and sometimes if you have a question about setup you may actually talk to him. Thats the beauty about not buying from a cookie cutter company. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
IPhreely
a Cross Country Rider
from SF, CA
Date Reviewed: July 27, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | technical descents | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$1650.00 | | Strengths: | climbs AND descends like a champ. Truly a do-it-all rig. With the right setup, you can build it as a nimble trail bike or beef it up to hang with the big DH rigs at the resorts.
| | Weaknesses: | it's almost too versatile...if that's a weakness??
3:1 leverage ratio (7.5"x2.0") of the Horst link makes it difficult to find shock springs for clydesdales, like myself.
they ain't cheap. | | Similar Products Used: | Santa Cruz Bullit, Heckler, Nomad, various Giants | | Bike Setup: | Crossmax SX UST w/ Nevegals, mix of XT and XTR, Avid 8" front, 6" rear, Fox RP23 & Push'd Van R coil, 160mm Nixon | | Bottom Line: | Coming from an XC background riding in the east coast, I was looking for a heavy duty rig I could do shuttle runs and reasonable DH rides at the resorts. I spent a good deal of time researching different bikes and came upon the 6 Pack/RFX. I bought it gently used, and after a few (mildly) frustrating rides, I started dialing it in for my riding style...eventually built it up as a point 'n shoot bike that could keep up with my friends riding bigger DH rigs, but could still motor uphill when I needed it to.
With the right suspension setup, this bike can do pretty much anything you ask of it. The geometry is solid, and it's super maneuverable in nearly any terrain.
If you're looking for a do-it-all bike that can be built to suit any need, and you can find a good deal, I would totally recommend the 6Pack/RFX. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ben
a Downhiller
from Hayden, ID
Date Reviewed: August 15, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Crank it UP | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$2500.00 | | Purchased At: | custom build | | Strengths: | Incredible stability at speed, descends like a guided missile, quiet pivots, inspires confidence, fully active suspension, excellent climbing traction, can take huge crash hits, durable powdercoat, beautiful machined rear triangle, massive squared-off top and downtubes. | | Weaknesses: | Tendency of rear suspension to pitch forward under hard braking, no center top-tube guide for brake hose, cables can "clang" against the taco if they are routed underneath it. In other words, not much. | | Similar Products Used: | Kona Stinky and Coil Air, Titus El Guapo. | | Bike Setup: | 05 Turner Six Pack (RFX) w/ Horst Link. Marzocchi Z1 Light, FOX DHX Air 5.0, SRAM X.9 shifters and derailleurs, Saint 8" brakes and hubs, Sun Rhyno Lite, Panaracer Fire FR 2.4, Answer ProTaper, ODI Rogue Lock-on, Crank Bros Mallet C, Thomson 70mm stem, Race Face post, WTB Laser V ProGel. | | Bottom Line: | I bought this frame and fork as my winter project. Mostly, I wanted something that could handle freeride and light downhill, but still be able to pedal uphill. Coming from a cross country background, a 6" travel bike with a slack 68 degree headtube angle and high 14.25" bottom bracket was a new venture for me.
From the moment I finished building it and sat on the frame, it felt incredibly comfortable and balanced. Neutral would be the best description. It climbs fairly slowly, but it's traction is comparable to a bulldozer, especially with the wide 2.4 tires. Extra rotating weight is the trade-off, but downhill prowess and sticking to the trail in any condition makes the big tread worth it. I can clean climbs on this bike that I can't with my light XC bikes because of increased traction and neutral balance. The Z1 Light fork is the perfect compliment, as I use the ETA to drop the fork on every climb.
Downhill, this is a guided missile. Stand up, point the bike, and go... over everything in the way. Forget picking a line, the Six Pack rails over anything. Again, the Zoke fork is absolutely set and forget, with a great compression damping feature that minimizes fork dive. After monster crashes, the bike has no dings or paint chips. The scratches polish right out with automotive scratch remover.
I put a Float air sleeve on the DHX for better mid-stroke support, and it was a great upgrade. At 175lbs w/o gear, I run the DHX at 185psi in the main chamber, 135 in the boost valve, full pro-pedal, and a slight rotation of the bottom-out adjuster. I run 10psi in the Z1 fork.
The very minor bad trait is a tendency to tip forward from the rear shock under hard braking. Additional rebound damping could fix this somewhat, but it would compromise trail performance at speed. I just brake less, as this bike gets more and more stable as it goes faster.
The mechanic at the LBS offered to buy the bike if I didn't like it. He can't have it. If you find one, buy it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason Koplin
a Weekend Warrior
from Fort Collins, CO USA
Date Reviewed: July 20, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Comando Loop, Vail CO | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$3700.00 | | Purchased At: | Road 34 | | Strengths: | Strong, excellent peddling up and down, service free, flex free, excellent customer service, super easy maintenance, paint is solid (it will scratch but won't chip), superb handling, very light for 6" travel, plush and active....I could go on | | Weaknesses: | Won't stop begging to be ridden. | | Similar Products Used: | Ellworth truth, Giant, Rocky Mountain, | | Bike Setup: | Zoke AM1, Raceface Atlus, XTR shift, DT swiss Hugi hubs, Hayes brakes, RP23 | | Bottom Line: | This bike has ridden in the mountains and foot hills of Colorado, the canyons of Moab, The forests of Maryland, the deserts of Arizona, the forests of northern Wisconsin and a few other places I may have missed. I weigh 245, needless to say I break stuff. I must say this Bike is awesome. It is flex free, nimble and comfortable on long rides. Even better it has required the simplest of maintenance. This Six Pack has given me no trouble with all the mud, sand and water I have encountered. A few squirts of grease and I'm done. I should also point out that the word "bushing" is thrown around a lot, in regards to the rear pivots. Bushings are loose descriptions of what are actually there. they are technically Journal Bearings. Bearings are flat smooth "washers". That is not what is in this Turner. There are two large "bushings" that the axle passes through, that are flanged that provide a bearing surface at the pivot points. This provides a strong, durable, smooth, flex free, pivot. It would be worth checking out the Turner web site to see a picture. Anyway, this bike rides with the best of them. And even better it doesn't require a lot of attention or $$$ to keep going. Hundreds of dirty fast miles and two years later , the thing rides like the day I got it. I would not hesitate to recommend The Six Pack.
P.S. it is quite bad@#$ looking as well! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt
a Downhiller
from MT
Date Reviewed: June 11, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | FAST N TECH | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$2000.00 | | Purchased At: | Slick Rock Cycles | | Strengths: | Horst link, Awsome, high quality frame build. This is the bike if you can only have one. It climbs great, and decends as fast and smooth as you want it to. | | Weaknesses: | ZERO | | Similar Products Used: | Spec. Enduro, Ellsworth Truth | | Bike Setup: | All XO, The new Retro Z1 RC2, all the goods | | Bottom Line: | Like I said before this would be a great choice if you can only have one bike. I have it set up on the all mountain free-ride side, but with a wheel change and some DH tires you can enjoy any resort as well. It is basically a high end Enduro SX. Dave Turner knows bikes, and this is the bike that he rides the most. He developed the idea for this bike while riding Pourcupine, so that is where the pedigree comes from.. I haven't ridden the TNT version, but if you can, get the 6 PACK because it still has the horst link. I will tell you this I have owned both and have been mountain biking for 15 years, a good rider can tell the differance between horst and none horst link suspensions | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kirk
a Weekend Warrior
from San Juan Capistrano
Date Reviewed: February 4, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Porcupine Rim | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | 850.00 | | Strengths: | Excellent Frame! It's a work of art! I don't know how the guys at Turner make a frame so strong and long lasting. The welds and CNC work is superb. | | Weaknesses: | NONE! ABSOLUTELY NONE! | | Similar Products Used: | Turner 5 Spot | | Bike Setup: | 6 Pack, Marzocchi All Mountain 1, Thomson, XT and XTR, WTB, MAXIS, Crank Brothers, Panaracer AM Pro 2.3 | | Bottom Line: | Excellent frame! Excellent weld joints and super strong! I think it's the best all mountain frame on the market with 6" of travel. If you can find one, BUY IT!!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ali Aftahi
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego
Date Reviewed: October 16, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | All Over | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Turner Bikes / Interbike Show | | Strengths: | Solid as it can be. Simple design, NO BOB at all, quality bike that you can't appriciate enough, Climbs like a goat, Heavy? I weight 225 lbs, and I am a bit slow up hills which is my issue and not the bike. But once up the top, then, I point it down and there I go like a bullet. It is made to satisfy your needs for speed, and more. Can't say enough about it. | | Weaknesses: | N-O-N-E, I mean it. | | Similar Products Used: | Currently a proud owner of a 5 - Spot. | | Bike Setup: | All FSA stem, post, head set, cranks, bottom bracket, bar, bash guard, WTB dual duty wheels and saddle, Magura Louise FR, SRAM X9 all over. Maxxis Mobster 2.35 with Stan sealent. | | Bottom Line: | You will be glad you get one of these. They worth every penny and more. Customer service is one of a kind. Price is very reasonable comparing to all the other junks out there that don't do what they are suppose to do. Can't wait to see their new product line so I can ad one more to my collection of fine bikes. Don't wait, go get one and enjoy every ride from now on.
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Submitted by
ZipsBiker
a Downhiller
from Orange County
Date Reviewed: August 28, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | Ridge 157 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$1900.00 | | Purchased At: | The Path | | Strengths: | Horst link model. Climbs like a mountain goat. The cross county riders are much faster uphill, but they can't seem to do the steep technical stuff. The suspension design and beefyness of the bike allow it to stick to the ground. Probably the best descending 6" bike. | | Weaknesses: | My bike is heavy, but it doesn't have to be. For me that's actually a strength because its stronger and sticks to the ground. I have no complaints with this bike. | | Similar Products Used: | Ellsworth Moment, Rogue. | | Bike Setup: | Heavy. 40lbs. 66 ETA Light. Diabolus cranks and headset. HFX 9 brakes. big rotor front, small back. DHX 5coil. Mobster 2.7 front Nevegal stick E 2.5 back Sram X9 | | Bottom Line: | For the average all-around rider, buy a 5 spot. This bike is perfect for what I do. Slow steady rides to the top while we try to clear the steepest and most technical trails. We play around at the top jumping road gaps and doing 5 ft drops. Then we bomb down as fast as we can. The long wheel base makes this bike very stable.
The 66 ETA Light is perfect for on the fly adjustments. I can lower the fork for climbing without stopping.
I didn't want this bike to be 40 lbs. My cranks, stem and wheels were from my RM7. However, the weight makes it very stable downhill. It took me a couple rides to adjust and now my legs are much stronger. The weight from the 2.7 wire bead on the front is noticeable, but it also keeps the front end down while climbing. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
JAMES
a Cross Country Rider
from BOULDER, CO
Date Reviewed: June 11, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | DESERT LOOPS | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | 2000 | | Strengths: | THIS BIKE DOES IT ALL. I RIDE WITH A BUNCH OF XC RACERS AND THEY CAN WORK ME ON THE UP HILLS BUT WHEN I POINT THE SIX PACK DOWN, BYE BYE. STRONG AND STIFF WITH GOOD GEOMETRY. | | Weaknesses: | PRICE, BUT YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET. THIS IS NOT A CROSS COUNTRY BIKE. ALTHOUGH, I HAVE RIDDEN IT LIKE ONE. | | Similar Products Used: | 5-SPOT, INTENCE 5.5, NOMAD, ALL THE TOP BRASS IN THE CLASS. | | Bike Setup: | SIX PACK, KING HUBS AND SET, FOX 36, DHX AIR, JUICY 7'S, THOMPSON STEM&BARS, XT DRIVE, KENDA TIRES WITH MAVIC 717 HOOPS. | | Bottom Line: | TOP OF THE "TRAIL BIKE CLASS," I PLAN ON RACING SOME SUPER D THIS SUMMER ON IT SO I'LL SEE WHAT IT CAN DO THERE. IT TOOK AWHILE TO DIAL THE FORK AND REAR SUS. IN BUT ONCE DONE VERY PLUSH. THE BIKE HAS A BALANCED FEEL AND CAN BE ADJUSTED TO RIDE BOTH XC AND FREERIDE TYPE TERRAIN WITH MINIMAL PART CHANGES. BUSHINGS ARE HOLDING UP WELL UNDER EXTREME USE AND PAINT DOES NOT CHIP EASILY, ALTHOUGH IT DOES.
TURNER CUSTY SERVICE IS VERY GOOD. I DOUBT YOU'D HAVE A PROBLEM.
I COME FROM A LONG LINE OF XC BIKES AND I THOUGHT I MIGHT BE GETTING IN OVER MY HEAD WITH THIS ONE. I WAS PLEASENTLY SUPRISED WHEN I COULD RIDE EVERYTHING THAT I DID BEFORE AND HAVE MORE FUN DOING IT.
BOTTOM LINE: GREAT SOUL RIDER BIKE.
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Submitted by
James
a Downhiller
from Prescott, AZ
Date Reviewed: June 11, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | private reserve and others | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$2000.00 | | Purchased At: | Employee Purchase Direct | | Strengths: | Versatile. Bushings for a stiff rear end season after season. Simple design. Short shock-bolts resist bending (as opposed to long shock bolts). Horst link braking traits. Active design so there's no pedal feedback (unlike vpp or single pivots). Not excessively heavy. | | Weaknesses: | Pivot bolts are nearly impossible to remove without rounding them out,due to the locking compound that is used at the factory. Two solutions, don't lock the bolts in so tight, or use the highest grade of bolts so they don't round out. | | Similar Products Used: | Azonic saber, other FSR bikes I've owned, other 6" travel bikes I've owned (K2, RM, Foes, etc) | | Bike Setup: | Marz 66 light ETA, mostly XT stuff, hope Mono M4s. | | Bottom Line: | A truely versatile and amazing bike. Pedals great, but the rear end remains real active. It doesn't have that "hardtail" pedaling feel like VPP bikes, but on the other hand in rough terrain it doesn't kick back and get harsh while pedaling uphill, as the VPP tends to do. The last review seems to be looking for that "hardtail" type feeling, but it's going to sacrifice something else.
Turner puts a lot of thought into this bike, and while it looks simple, there's a lot of small details such as the bushings for lateral rigidity (one of the problems with the FSR design, and turner addresses this), the shaped link plates so short shock bolts can be used, the ST is bulged just below the TT junction-it's a small detail but it's there. Your turner 6pack/RFX is going to last season after season, while your buddies replace bearings and eventually kill their frames. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jared berg**
a Weekend Warrior
from KA
Date Reviewed: April 23, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | downhill stuff | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$1700.00 | | Purchased At: | from a guy online | | Strengths: | it looks cool, it rides okay, and it versatile. and there are at least two bikes out there that are worse, but that is all. o yeah the fact thats its made in the usa, but that leads to negatives as well. | | Weaknesses: | to expensive, Horst link or what ever its called is all hype, doesnt climb as well as i would have liked. its not meant for anything other then local trails like Romero and cold springs. it doesn't compare to my downhill bike and it not that good of a bike for someone who is like me, big headed, fat, and just buying stuff because i get bored easily with what i have. | | Similar Products Used: | kona stab supreme built up better than fabiens,coiler, 01 stab, stinky, intense uzzi, specialized sxtrail, and the list goes on they are all better then this piece of scrap metal | | Bike Setup: | 36, green themed components, you know green CK headset and spank wheels, along with stuff that I stupidly traded my downhill stuff for (lost a lot of money)and most important these cool glow in the dark decals. | | Bottom Line: | don't consider this thing if you want a bike that is in this category buy a better bike for less, buy the specialized sxtrail 2. I'm selling mine as of now for this bike it rides downhill and with the fsr susp. design it actually goes up easily (no hype) | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew
a
from Charlottesville, VA, USA
Date Reviewed: April 10, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | Burke | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Go-Ride | | Strengths: | Extremely strong and laterally stiff. Plush when it needs to be, yet almost bob-free when climbing. A boatload of fun to ride! | | Weaknesses: | Heavy - 35lbs as set up - but I expected that. | | Similar Products Used: | Mtn Cycle San Andreas DHS, Yeti 575 | | Bike Setup: | Large frame w/ DHX coil, Van 36 RC2, DT 6.1 rims w/ Hugi FR hubs, X.9 shifters, X.0 rear mech, X-gen front mech, RF cranks, Thomson seatpost & stem, EA70 bar, etc. 35lbs | | Bottom Line: | I picked up this '06 RFX a couple weeks ago, intending to use this as my one "do-it-all" bike, and so far I'm pleased as punch. It's gorgeous to look at (welds are spot-on, and the shock basement/bottom bracket is amazing), and does what I ask of it. I can't comment on the HL vs TNT issue, but I can say that the TNT climbs as well as my previous 575, and feels plenty cush on the way down. Rocks, roots, g-outs, jumps? No worries, it cruises. It will stick the techy climbs, but the weight will be noticed. (Ok, you wouldn't buy a 9lb frame without expecting a bit of heft, eh?) Also, I detected ZERO lateral flex yesterday while bombing down a bermed, rock-strewn trail. 5 chilis for an outstanding frame. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a
from Salem, OR, USA
Date Reviewed: March 4, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | Bonzai,Gonzo | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$3800.00 | | Purchased At: | Santiam Bikes | | Strengths: | Versatility, handmade quality, Turner customer service, sealed pivots, stealthy anodized finish. | | Weaknesses: | None really so far IMO. | | Similar Products Used: | Past 2 FS bikes were Specialed FSR's. | | Bike Setup: | Pike up front, DHX-air in back. DT swiss 5.1's on Hope hubs. Couple stems depending on FR or XC, Juicy 5's, couple different Kendas (again, XC or FR day). WTB seat...ahhh lets see, oh yeah, Sram shifters & shimano Ders. | | Bottom Line: | One badarse bike. I wanted a strong frame that I could use for about anything from XC trails in Bend to the big stuff @ the FR park.
Some say save a few hundred & build up a Kona, but I rode a few of those, and really didn't care for them. Plus, I really like the idea (and reputation) of Turner & the pivots they use. My Spesh needs new bearings after only about 500 miles & 1 1/2 year of use.
And as far as the Horst link/ TNT debate goes: My last 2 bikes were Specialized FSR's. My Turner climbs everything my FSR's did, and I feel like it climbs better. I pedal to the top of everything where others get off & walk. No more on that topic..been beat to death.
So I'm progressing slowly on doing drops & stunts, but this bike gives me the confidence that was lacking before. I feel the bike is way ahead of me as far as capabilities. Not something I felt on my last 2 bikes.
I've done 4' to transition stuff that I never thought I'd want to do a year ago. The bike is solid & soaks it up like it wants more. I carve down technical trails like a madman, hitting all (okay MOST) of the stuff along the way. Again, the limiting factor is definately me.
I had the dreaded stuck down issue w/ the DHX-air TWICE in as many rides- Turner sent me a new shock after the 2nd time (Turner cs rules!). The shock since has been great. Just keep it topped off w/ a few cc's of Float Fluid (that's what Fox is doing from the factory now on the shock). The Fork is magical....takes a good sized hit w/o bottoming, yet totally compliant on the bumpy trails.
Would I buy again? Absolutely. Unfortunately, since they're so spendy, I can have only 1 mtb right now...So are there other similar and cheaper options out there? Of course. Good luck choosing :)
Only quibble: Turner PLEASE go to the headtube badge like on the new Highline on all your frames. For the $$ of the frame, this should be across the model line. My badge fell off on the first ride while climbing UP...my friend noticed it missing while resting @ the top of the hill.
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Submitted by
Steve
a
from Los Angeles, CA
Date Reviewed: November 29, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Turner Bikes | | Strengths: | Handles technical climbing and downhills well.
Laterally stiff. Very little bob. Very smooth, plush suspension.
Doesn't beat you up after a full day of riding.
Great people at Turner Bikes. | | Weaknesses: | Coming from a hardtail, I found it a little awkward to portage the bike by carrying it through the main triangle due to the rear shock... Guess I'll have to figure out a different way to do it. | | Bike Setup: | Large, white '06 RFX demo bike. Fox TALAS 36RC and DhX Air. Magura Louise FR brakes. SRAM X.9 shifters and rear derailleur. | | Bottom Line: | This is an initial review of the new RFX - basically the TNT '06 6-Pack. I've only had the bike for little over a month, so I will try to post another review in a few month's time.
The RFX is my first full-suspension bike and so far this bike has exceeded all of my expectations of what a great full-suspension bike should be. I've ridden my previous bike, a '95 Stumpjumper M2, for the past 10 years (I've been a poor, broke student my whole life) and have sorely felt the limitations of that bike.
I bought the RFX as a demo bike directly from Turner, and actually picked up the bike directly from them in Murrieta, CA. First of all, I have to say that the guys at Turner Bikes, including Mr. Turner himself, are great.
And the RFX? Awesome. I didn't have a lot of experience riding full suspension bikes prior to the RFX. Consequently I had some worries about how much a 6" travel bike would bob out of the saddle and how difficult it would be to climb with the bike. And I had some expectations with regards to how the bike might handle downhills and soak up bumps. I found that my worries were unfounded and expectations exceeded.
I really expected the suspension to wallow when standing up and mashing the pedals, but what I've found is that the RFX bobs very little when standing and almost not at all when sitting and grinding up hills. I chalk this up to suspension design rather than a "platform" from the shock since I've been riding with the ProPedal completely backed out. The technical climbing prowress of the RFX is phenomenal compared to my old Stumpie. The first day I got the bike, I tried riding up a flight of stairs that I wouldn't dream of doing on my old hardtail. The bike just plowed its way up. I was amazed. Riding downhills, the bike is butter. Very smooth. Very fluid. And laterally, quite stiff - in fact it feels laterally stiffer than my M2 hardtail!
Thus far, I have taken the RFX out on three 5 hour plus rides and I felt great after each of the rides. For me, the RFX truly defines the "all mountain" category - it climbs well, it goes downhill well, and doesn't beat you up at the end of the day. The RFX is an awesome bike.
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Submitted by
S. H. Min
a Downhiller
from Earth
Date Reviewed: November 23, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | 90 degree cliff | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$2000.00 | | Strengths: | looks good. plush. strong. | | Weaknesses: | nothing so far | | Similar Products Used: | GT I drive | | Bike Setup: | XT HONE DT Marzocchi etc. | | Bottom Line: | just buy this. and enjoy it!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
KENNETH COLOCADO
a Weekend Warrior
from TUSTIN,CA
Date Reviewed: September 20, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | aliso woods and canyon wilderness trail | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$1000.00 | | Purchased At: | tha path bike shop/ trade-in my blur | | Strengths: | great overall bike!!!!!!!!!! climb pretty weel feels excellent with fox dhx air. can't go wrong with this shock! downhill this bike rocks! very stable! great bike geometry, 5 star to turner company. | | Weaknesses: | none. | | Similar Products Used: | I use to have santa cruz blur, climbs just like the blur, but will edge the blur if your going downhill. | | Bike Setup: | all xt, king headset, mavic 819, king iso disc hubs, avid juicy 7, marzocchi z.1 freeride w/ eta | | Bottom Line: | if you want to purchase a bike or components go at the path bike shop in tustin,ca look for tani. great people !!!! 5 star to this bike shop. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff
a Downhiller
from The OC
Date Reviewed: August 19, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Turner Bikes | | Strengths: | Longer Wheelbase, Attention to detail, Burly strong. square tubing at the head tube. Decals are water transferred and intergrated into the paint. Durable paint | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | Turner XCE, Blur | | Bike Setup: | Large Grey Sic Pack,O4 z1 fr Marzocchi, Fox DHX Air 5.0, sun single track w/ hugi fr hubs. Thompson stem/seatpost
| | Bottom Line: | The bottom line is that Turner is a company that stands behind its products. My XCE was 6 months past it's warranty when the seat tube broke above the bottom bracket. After emailing the pictures to Turner they decided to apply more money towards a new frame for me. I was able to drive to Turner to exchange the frame and pay for the upgrade. The Frame with the DHX Air 5.0 weighs just 7.9 lbs exactly (we weighed it at Turner on 2 scales).
This is my "one" bike built up strong at 33-34lbs. I will be adding the 06 z1 fr1 to try a six inch fork up front.
This bike makes my XCE seem like a hard tail. The sad thing is that the Six Pack climbs way better than the XCE because of the DHX AIR shock. The response to uphill bumps is way more compiliant with the propedal. But, you don't buy a Six Pack to climb fire roads, this thing is a beast when pointed downhill. Rock gardens dissappear underneath you and it corners better than any bike I've owned. I've already hit a few drops on my new bike a couple 4 and 5 footers. Eye opening to say the least.
I have the new bike "stoke" happening right now. I want to ride the hardest trails and do the sickest drops. IMO this is the best frame for an aggressive trail rider who wants one bike to do it all. 6x6 is sick!
Head angle with the 5" fork is 69 degrees. I can't wait for the other fork. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Art
a Cross Country Rider
from seattle
Date Reviewed: July 4, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | go-ride | | Strengths: | everything | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | 5spot/fox 125r | | Bike Setup: | Marzocchi AM1, xt, thompson etc | | Bottom Line: | I purchased my 6pack as a replacement to my beloved 5spot. In the beginning, I was worried the 6pack would be too heavy compared to my 5spot for real XC ridding. I was also concerned the slightly slacker geometry would not lend itself well to single track riding.
After one ride I can now say the 6pack is every bit a good as the 5spot for aggressive XC and possibly (dare I say) better. (for me that is)
This bike mows through everything with very predictable handling. My 5 spot was great, but I was constantly whacking pedals do to the lower BB. With the 6pack those issues are a thing of the past. True, the steering is a tad slower, but it makes up for it with better descending capabilities etc.
Climbing wise, both bikes are a toss up and the 6packs added weight (3 more lbs than my 5spot with my new fork) is hardly noticeable.
In the end I’ll say I’m definitely not your typical 6pack rider. I prefer aggressive XC to freeride/big hit riding. That being said, If your torn between the 5 spot and 6pack for XC, don’t let the added weight or slacker geometry scare you. In my opinion, the 6pack may be the perfect answer for those looking for an aggressive XC rig.
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Submitted by
Jon
a Downhiller
from Santa Clarita
Date Reviewed: May 28, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$4500.00 | | Purchased At: | shhhhhhhhh, its a secret | | Strengths: | this simply the best bike available at this time. | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | demo 9,ellsworth truth,demo 8, specialized enduro,iron horse downhill world cup(pile of sh*t) | | Bike Setup: | 36rc2,avid juicy 7, race face atlas cranks,atomlab wheels,the works | | Bottom Line: | oh god i could be here for days, the adjustabilty in the DHX 5.0 is unsurpassed, the geometry is excellent, the linkage is top notch, frame quality is unbelievable, if you are a downhill goon, an all mountain guy, or a spandex wearing cross country fairy this is the bike for you, it does everything and more.Bottom line:get one or you will hate yourself go into depression and stop biking, if you get one you will thank youself forever | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a Racer
from Boulder
Date Reviewed: May 17, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | It's a secret | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | The frame is so stiff and solid! Having a Fox DHX standard is great, the suspension works just the way you want it to because you can tune the shock so much. Construction is top notch. | | Weaknesses: | Weight is different than listed. Listed weight is 8.8 pounds, my bike weighed in at 8.3. | | Similar Products Used: | 5 spot, GT LTS, Specialized Enduro 150... | | Bike Setup: | Fox 36 RC2, Hayes, Hadley, Mavic & Michelin setup, 32 pounds. | | Bottom Line: | Bottom line is, you get what you pay for. The frame has no slop, paint is top notch and hasn't chipped (which is to be expected) and everything is done right. It's kinda wierd in the sense that it makes me think I'm on my dh bike sometimes because of the stability. It's just a comfortable, fun bike that you don't have to worry about, and that's the whole point of riding. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
gonzostrike
a Downhiller
from zimoola, tanamon
Date Reviewed: April 7, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Auntie Doats | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$1900.00 | | Purchased At: | Mtn High Cyclery | | Strengths: | incredible balance between front and rear suspension, handling, stability at speed through rough terrain, lateral stiffness of rear assembly, overall excellent engineering | | Weaknesses: | I had to pay for it? | | Similar Products Used: | SC Bullit; Ventana X-5; SC VP-Free; Banshee Scream | | Bike Setup: | the usual necessities for traveling on long backcountry rides | | Bottom Line: | what? all this travel, behavior like a burly bike, and the weight of a trail bike. this is my XC rig and it could easily be a ONE BIKE rig for someone who wants such a thing, with a dual crown fork and a burly wheelset you're ready to stomp it. 5 scorchin' chiles all around for this one. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
tscheezy
a
from Kodiak, AK
Date Reviewed: February 11, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | The ones with dirt or rock on them | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Turner demo bike | | Strengths: | It's a Turner. All the superlatives which apply to Turner's designs apply to this one too. The bike is stout, smooth, extremely well thought out, versatile, durable, easy to work on, and handles brilliantly. Good standover, accepts any shock (coil or air), burly tubing and reinforcements, head tube reamed for 1" deep headset skirts, beautifully finished and prepped frame (headset ream, bb chased and faced, smooth seat tube inside diameter, etc). Decent cable routing and high quality powdercoat. Huge tire clearance (true 2.8+ and room for lots of goopy mud). Iscg chain guide tabs on bb. A massive bb shell/shock mount. Stout. A stunning machine. | | Weaknesses: | Cable routing between top tube and seat stays forces cables to rub on seat tube. Some complain about soft der hangers. Not disposable. Um... I'm kinda reaching here... | | Similar Products Used: | I own a 5-Spot and have demoed quite a few trail bikes and a couple freeriders. The only thing which came close pedaling -wise for a FR bike was the VPFree. The Cove Hustler was nice. I like Yeti 575s a lot, but they are a different category... | | Bike Setup: | DHX 5 shock, Zoke Z1 FR1 (150mm), Sram X.9, King Steelset, Magura FR, WTB Dual Duty wheels, Thomson, Hopey steering damper, e13 DRS, Gravity Dropper post, nice stuff... About 34-35 pounds. | | Bottom Line: | I have an XCE (3 years), 5-Spot (1.5 years), and the latest addition is a 6-Pack (3 months). I have demoed quite a few bikes, from Yeti, Titus, Cannondale, Cove, Intense, Santa Cruz, Maverick, etc, and though some may come close to the Turner in some categories (and perhaps even surpass it in some specific respects), none offer the complete package that the Turner designs do.
I am an unabashed fan of the Turner pivot system. Bushings got a bad rap from a lot of poorly executed systems way back when, but Turner has them dialed to perfection. They are very easy to lube via a zerk at each pivot, they provide a stiff pivot structure, are very easy to take apart, and they last. None of the components in the pivot can corrode so they work great in wet environments (I live in coastal Alaska- think BC), never suffer catastrophic failure the way a bearing can, and are super durable. I have to deal with enough bearings on my bike rotting away in my local salty slop to want them in my frame too. I also live a long way from any shop I would trust to work on my bike, so the ability to strip the frame to the smallest individual suspenson component with basic tools is a big deal to me.
The bike allows a lot of different shock setups. The "walking beam" rocker puts the shock in the main triangle and gives the shock lots of room so you can run pretty much any damper on the market. I have a DHX, RP3, Swinger 3-Way Air, and Romic for the bike, and all fit with no mods needed. This also allows for an uninterrupted seat tube which I like, not so much for seat lowering purposes (though you can slam the post to the saddle rails) but rather for strength, asthetics, and a normal seat tube angle. I broke a few GT seat masts and don't trust interrupted seat tubes anymore.
With a fork sporting a ~520mm axle to crown (like a 130mm Z1, Nixon, Pike, Mav DUC, etc) the 6-Pack has about a 69 deg head angle and takes on a very stable yet maneuverable trailbike manner (I have a Z1 SL I sometimes ride on it). With a taller fork (Fox 36 or a Z1 FR1 150mm- my normal fork) the bike gets more of a "big bike" feel to it and squats in the back more (weight shift) for super-stable descents and taking the rougher stuff scary fast. With the DHX, the bike is stupid plush, smooth, and still pedals with the best of them.
Like every Turner I have tried, the 6-Pack is very stable, balanced, and ideally suited for its intended purpose. A lot of thought went into the design of this bike and it shows every time you ride it. It is very versatile. You could put light wheels, an RP3 and Maverick DUC on it and have a 31# trailbike, and then swap the wheels and shocks for some stout hoops, a DHX and Zoke FR1 and have a hard core freerider.
I have to give it the full 5 incendiary poos for value just because this thing is going to be your best friend for a very long time to come. Have you priced a used RFX recently? Yup, even a 3+ year old freerider which holds its value. Amazing.
I have to give it 5 conflagrating turds for overall too. Why should be self-evident by now... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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