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Manitou Axel Comp

Average Rating 3.75/5
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Description:Features:
Internally convertible travel from 80mm to 100mm Coil, Fluid Flow Damping, adjustable preload, Microlube grease ports, Magnesium RA (Reverse Arch) casting, Steel steerer tube
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    Submitted by isaac a Cross Country Rider from Australia
    Date Reviewed: January 25, 2006
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Purchased At:came with bike
    Strengths:100mm travel,
    Weaknesses:the rebound and compound dosent work, very soft
    Similar Products Used:rst omni.
    Bike Setup:Avanti Barracuda
    Bottom Line:the shocks compound and rebound doesnt work thought i think that has somthing to do with them been an oil shock instead of a spring shock
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:3

    Submitted by alex hastings a Downhiller from harrogate
    Date Reviewed: January 3, 2006
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Strengths:good on dirt
    Bike Setup:ump bie
    Bottom Line:i have the 2006 verin and they are ace for a beginer dirt jump and street rider

    the ride is good and it doesnt rebound to fast.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by James a Cross Country Rider from IL
    Date Reviewed: September 13, 2004
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Price Paid: $79.00
    Purchased At:JensonUSA
    Strengths:Solid Design, Easily Servicable. 80 or 100mm. Price!
    Weaknesses:Comes with some faulty parts and to little oil
    Bike Setup:KHS XC304
    Bottom Line:Great fork after I called the warranty dept at Answer. It came with to little oil and a faulty dampening system. After that was repaired it has been absolutly fantastic. The spring is soft for heavy riders but its still comortable. It is easy to service and refill the oil. The tech guys at Answer are great with helping you out with any problems.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by bandersnatch a Weekend Warrior from fairbanks
    Date Reviewed: August 26, 2004
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Price Paid: $430.00
    Purchased At:beaver sports
    Strengths:cheap for its class
    Weaknesses:too soft
    Similar Products Used:hardrock
    Bike Setup:2003 specialized rockhopper
    Bottom Line:I really want to like this fork but I have to give it a bad rating. It really damps out the bumps and keeps the wheel planted on the ground. But the default spring is way to soft, I can stand beside the bike and buttom it down buy pressing the the handle bars. This wouldnt be bad except for the companys terrible stock situation. I ordered the stronger spring for it 5 MONTHS AGO and it is still on backorder. I just gave up and cancelled it and am currently looking for a better spring.
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Jim a Cross Country Rider from Kokomo, IN
    Date Reviewed: April 18, 2004
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Purchased At:OEM
    Strengths:Price, doesnt flex like other cheap forks, easy to get parts, work on yourself, buttery smooth
    Weaknesses:Stock spring too soft for me
    Bike Setup:03 Iron Horse Rogue
    Bottom Line:Fork came with medium spring, but since I weigh 220, it was waay too soft. Ordered the firm spring, now Im happy, works better than a lot of forks costing a lot more. Keeps the front wheel PLANTED on the ground thru rough sections, no matter how fast you go so you keep control.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by zack a Weekend Warrior from san diego, ca, usa
    Date Reviewed: February 26, 2004
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Price Paid: $260.00
    Strengths:great bang for the buck
    Weaknesses:way to soft suspension
    Bike Setup:stock
    Bottom Line:I am just starting out riding, and I love the bike. However, I immediately noticed that the bike's suspension was very soft. It seems that I would enjoy it more if I got a stiffer spring did the 100mm conversion. I've been searching the net looking for springs, but I'm not coming up with much. Can I get a spring off the net, or should I just bring the bike to a shop for a firm spring? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Thi a Cross Country Rider from Auburn
    Date Reviewed: February 11, 2004
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Strengths:rebound dampening works awsome
    Weaknesses:a little too soft
    Similar Products Used:pilot c, manitou six comp,Rock shox judy c and xc,rst gila,
    Bike Setup:2003 rockhopper in upgrading process
    Bottom Line:I take 4 footers with this thing and it still wont break.The springs are too soft it seems to be a constant problem with oem forks and this is no exception but i weigh 145 lbs so it isnt that bad but even when it does bottom out the fork seems perfectly fine no broken seals or anything.Rebound dampening is awsome it didnt work for the first three months and then it started soaking up the bumps and roots like none other.oh ya do the 100mm conversion, big
    difference.4 chilis overall because of springs.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by arturas k a Cross Country Rider from vilnius, lithuania
    Date Reviewed: January 21, 2004
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Strengths:cheap, convertible travel, good perfomance
    Weaknesses:i hate those plastic caps - pre load damping and compression damping assembly. it was stupid idea not to do it from alu. besides, i broke my rebound damping assembly.
    Similar Products Used:rst, suntour
    Bike Setup:xtc se 4
    Bottom Line:there is no dealer in f*.. lithuania, but answer products technical support helped me to get needed parts. god bless tech support. in concliuson, axel is cheap very good fork for its price. if you want 100 mm travel, be very careful when converting because parts aren't very strong, you might brake smh
    Value Rating:3Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by Ian a Cross Country Rider from Columbia, MD, USA
    Date Reviewed: December 23, 2003
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Purchased At:performance, came on bike
    Strengths:one of the cheapest forks you can buy, works ok for what it is.
    Weaknesses:only way to adjust damping is by changeing oil. no size-specific spec on new bikes (all come with medium spring), can be a bit of a hassle to get a different spring.
    Similar Products Used:Old rock shox, scott, AMP, demoed many forks on the market now
    Bike Setup:Jamis Dakar
    Bottom Line:i run mine with 100mm travel, and it's pretty good for what it is. once you get the right springs, of course. damping works, firm spring is firm enough for me. it's not as stiff as my AMP, but i doubt anything you can get nowadays is.

    I wouldn't buy it if it wasn't on a bike, but on a lower-end speced bike it's hard to beat.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:3

    Submitted by bas koper a Racer from holland
    Date Reviewed: December 5, 2003
    Favorite Trail:schoorl (technical xc)
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Purchased At:decathlon
    Strengths:manitou axel comp:
    +100mm travel (after converting)
    +Oil damping
    +29mm innerlegs
    +smooth travel!!!!
    Weaknesses:a lot!

    -4.2lb?
    -oil damping does not work (....look at bottom line)
    -bottom-out-all-the-time
    -80mm travel
    -lateral flex
    Similar Products Used:AMP suspension fork
    Bike Setup:decathlon rockrider 8.1:
    Manitou Axel Comp
    Deore/LX
    Truvativ
    Avid
    Mavic 221
    Formula
    Hutchinson mosquito airlight
    Total weight: 12kg (with lighter inner tubes)

    Bottom Line:The Manitou Axel Comp performs in its standard setup very bad!

    You can change all that:
    +convert the travel from 80mm to 100mm
    +change the oil from 5W to 7W (or mix 5W with 10W)
    +replace the standard spring by the yellow one (yellow=stronger)

    Results:
    +smooth 100mm travel!
    +no more bottom out!
    +oil damping,....it works!

    Conclusion: 100% suspension
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Wade Warfield a from Charlottesville VA
    Date Reviewed: December 4, 2003
    Favorite Trail:anything fun
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Purchased At:Came on the bike
    Strengths:It hasnt broken yet. It has externally adjustable rebound which i find very suefull. WHen you have it on the softest setting, it is great for cross country riding, and when you want to give it hell you can adjust the preload accordingly.
    Weaknesses:It took a lot of riding and lot of big hits to break it in
    Similar Products Used:Duke
    Bike Setup:Jamis Dakar stock accept new tires and flat pedals
    Bottom Line:I realy like it, but that could just be because i havent really ridden anything else that much. I recently discovered the joys of mountain biking and have ridden all the timei since then. I ride alot of cross country, and on the trails it never bottoms out. I also discovered that i like to spend alot of time in the air and the fork hasnt shown any signs of breakage. It bottoms out all the time on drops and jumps to flat, but what 100 mm fork wouldnt.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Sandy a Cross Country Rider from Scotland
    Date Reviewed: November 8, 2003
    Favorite Trail:Anywhere
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Strengths:Cheap, only disc mounts, good for xc and some drops, pretty good for climbing. Convertiable travel.
    Weaknesses:Awkward to disassemble and reassemble. Top seals are pretty crap for bad weather riding which i do quite often.
    Similar Products Used:Rockshox judy & duke (pretty crap), Marzocchi Z1 (good for tough terrain/downhill).
    Bike Setup:Giant XTC4, Stock everything apart from pedals, tyres and handlebars.
    Bottom Line:These forks arent bad, they arent great either. They came with my bike and initially were quite tough and unresponsive until i 'broke them in' (went down a semi downhill course).

    These forks feel much better after conversion to 100mm, you just remove a plastic spacer. The bike doesnt sit any higher after the conversion, just much smoother forks :)

    These came with a disc only mounting, and giant supplied an adapter to fit uk disc brakes (works well had no problems).

    In all honesty I will probably replace the forks next year. I need a top notch all round fork and i can see these becoming a nuisance in the future. I wouldnt quibble too much if you get these forks supplied with a mountain bike, especially if your a newbie, but I wouldnt buy them induvidually as there are better forks out there.
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:3

    Submitted by Charly a Cross Country Rider from Portland, ME
    Date Reviewed: September 26, 2003
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Strengths:Haven't ridden it enought to say.
    Weaknesses:See above.
    Similar Products Used:...
    Bike Setup:03 Rockhopper
    Bottom Line:Just letting everyone know the written manual and online instructions for coverting the travel are wrong. They say the adjustment is in the right (from rider) leg.....it's not, it's in the left, along with the spring (definitely recommend the heavier spring upgrade, I weigh 170 lbs.). I took apart the right leg, and interestingly the directions/figures are correct up to the last step.....the clip isn't there. I called Answer and the "tech" on the other end of the phone line was like..."DUDE...it's in the other side". I explained that I followed the directions....he said..."well, they must be wrong". lol.

    Just wanted to save everybody some time/trouble. I put in the new spring nd converted the travel on my lunch break...easy. Feels incredible now. FIRM!!
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:3

    Submitted by Derek a Cross Country Rider from Snowshoe
    Date Reviewed: September 9, 2003
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Strengths:smooth
    strong
    Weaknesses:oem springs not heavy enough
    Bottom Line:I like this fork. I haven't had any of the issues that folks are talking about below, except for the springs. I invested $20 for new, heavier springs, and I like the fork even more. I would definitely buy this for again. I really don't think you can go wrong.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by jo mamma a Weekend Warrior from kirkland, wa
    Date Reviewed: September 9, 2003
    Favorite Trail:anything w/dirt
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Purchased At:came with bike
    Strengths:cheap, came with bike
    Weaknesses:too soft, not much travel
    Similar Products Used:marzocchi dirt jumper III, on friends bike
    Bike Setup:rockhopper, eggbeater mallot c's, fire xc pro's, shimano mix
    Bottom Line:great shock if you are 150lbs, i weigh 180 and the thing bottomed out at 80mm travel. went to answers website to see how to convert travel and found out that they have made some changes so I had to completely disassemble the entire left leg to convert travel, that fixed the travel problem but still way too soft. lbs ordered firm spring 3 weeks ago and still havn't seen it. good shock for beginner but too much hassle to get set up right for bigger riders
    Value Rating:3Overall Rating:3

    Submitted by Bill a Cross Country Rider from NY
    Date Reviewed: July 24, 2003
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Strengths:It absorbs shock
    Weaknesses:The words Pogo and Stick come to mind
    Similar Products Used:What ever comes on various Bikes in the $400-$500 price range
    Bike Setup:Stock F300
    Bottom Line:It came on the two bikes that I considered the most (Rockhopper and F300), so I was destined for this fork.
    I clearly think it was better than other oem forks that I tried on other bikes in this price range, but the damn thing is like riding a pogo stick. Very, very bouncy.
    My friend has the same bike and just ordered the stiffer springs. I'm gonna wait to try his out before taking the plunge myself.
    The fork does its main job, which is absorb all the bumps. I have yet to bottom out the fork, granted I havent really been all that rough with it yet. I've done mostly road and light trail riding on it. I have it set to whatever the factory set it to, which I guess is 80mm.
    You do get used to the bouncyness over time, so we'll see whether or not I swap it out or upgrade the springs. It is adjustable, so I was able to stiffen it up a bit on my own which was nice.
    If I had paid good money for it, I'd probably be complaining a bit more about it. But as it came on the bike and I really do find it to be superior to other oem forks in this price range, I'll give it 5 chilis for Value and 4 chilis overall because its bouncy and I might have to pay $18 to get new springs.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by Wayne a Weekend Warrior from Oregon
    Date Reviewed: July 24, 2003
    Favorite Trail:Powell Butte
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Purchased At:Came with bike
    Strengths:UPDATE: Feels even better with the firm upgrade spring! Very smooth, no stiction.
    Weaknesses:Nothing I can really think of for my current application.
    Bike Setup:'03 Rockhopper w/ Sun-Rungle ZuZu Pedals & Rock Shox Seatpost.
    Bottom Line:THIS IS AN UPDATE TO MY FIRST REVIEW:

    The shock was soft from the factory on my bike. I upped the travel to 100mm and it made a big difference. I changed to the firm spring (YELLOW) and now it's excellent. It feels very, very "exact". Very happy for the additional $20 invested. Pick up some M-Grease to lube up the new spring. I also re-lubed the micro ports. Smooth travel.

    Night and day difference from day one. I'm completely satisfied. Answer's customer service is also excellent!
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Wayne a Weekend Warrior from Oregon
    Date Reviewed: July 15, 2003
    Favorite Trail:Powell Butte
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Purchased At:Came with bike
    Strengths:Convertible to 100mm and price
    Weaknesses:Product weight and a little too soft for my weight still. A $20 firm spring should fix this.
    Similar Products Used:none
    Bike Setup:Rockhopper
    Bottom Line:Once I adjusted it from 80mm to 100mm it was a whole new animal. I'm much happier now. Answer's website has detaield instructions on how to make this change. You'll need a few Allen wrenches and a hard-to-find 20mm open end wrench or socket to convert the travel. Highly recommend going to 100mm.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by tiki ford a Downhiller from iron city, passion, bob
    Date Reviewed: July 11, 2003
    Favorite Trail:backyard
    Duration Product Used:More than 3 years
    Price Paid: $1000000.00
    Purchased At:the bike shop
    Strengths:can binch press 300lbs
    Weaknesses:can leg press 100lbs
    Similar Products Used:stapler
    Bike Setup:wood frame broken now
    Bottom Line:buy a drill
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by David a from Weston FL
    Date Reviewed: June 4, 2003
    Favorite Trail:Markham
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Purchased At:Int'l Bikes
    Strengths:cheap
    Weaknesses:poorly made, i had mine rebuilt twice, bent the steerer and have snapped the reverse arch on it. Im a smooth rider also, it bottoms out all the time. It is a pathetic fork. Dont buy one, save your money and buy something nice, chances are what your replacing is better, and if its broken why replace a bottom line broken part with this bottom line POS.
    Similar Products Used:Black, Vanilla, misc. Marz
    Bike Setup:2003 F300, 2003 Bullit
    Bottom Line:I wouldnt recomend this fork It came stock on my c-dale, at first I liked it, then I started having nothing but trouble, I ride mostly technical single track. Any more questions email me, im not interested right now in a huge review.
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Pastor Tim a Cross Country Rider from Arizona
    Date Reviewed: May 17, 2003
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Strengths:tough
    stiff
    smooth
    Weaknesses:a bit heavy for weight geeks,
    but still worth it
    Similar Products Used:Duke C, Judy
    Bottom Line:I recommend this fork to anyone except perhaps weight weenies. It's not heavy by any means, but heavier than race specific forks. I am pleased with this fork. It's silky smooth, takes small and big hits well, and I've never bottomed out. My front end is very stable when cornering, especially compared to some other shocks I've ridden. This fork has held up to months of abuse; I'm hard on my equipment. Bottom line: I like this fork. Alot.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by V Rogers a Weekend Warrior from West Virginia
    Date Reviewed: May 13, 2003
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Strengths:Smooth as butter
    Stiff
    Inexpensive
    Looks good
    Weaknesses:A tad heavy for racing, but other than that, nothing.
    Similar Products Used:Manitou X-Vert
    Rock Shox Duke XC
    Marzocchi EXR
    Bottom Line:I really like this fork. It's as smooth as any of the other forks I've owned. It has yet to bottom out on me. I can't notice any flex in the front end at all. I was looking for an inexpensive fork to replace my Duke XC, which gave out on me. I am pleased with my purchase. If you need a less expensive fork that will perform along with the top of the line, look no further than the Axel Comp.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by chris lawson a Cross Country Rider from singapore
    Date Reviewed: May 9, 2003
    Favorite Trail:bukit timah/sentosa
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Purchased At:TEF bikers junction
    Strengths:very very absorbing shox, very responsive, feels much more sturdy then my old SR xcr fork i was using
    Weaknesses:none really, just i guess the fact that you are always in fear of manitou crappy worksmanshipp
    Similar Products Used:SR XCR, MANITOU BLACK
    Bike Setup:scott usa, elite racer, with axel stock, deore lx and xt, hydrolic disk brakes....ect
    Bottom Line:good fork for medium xc users, i dont think you can get much more hard core for xc
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by Austin Groves a Cross Country Rider from wells
    Date Reviewed: April 22, 2003
    Favorite Trail:YMCA
    Duration Product Used:Tested or demo'ed only
    Strengths:smoothness!
    Weaknesses:A bit to loose..
    Similar Products Used:marzocchi EXR
    Bottom Line:aint to bad but could be a bit stiffer.
    Value Rating:3Overall Rating:3






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