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Koobi Au Enduro

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Average Rating 4.54/5
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    Submitted by ferday a Cross Country Rider from canada
    Date Reviewed: December 6, 2007
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $70.00
    Purchased At:koobi.com
    Strengths:so comfortable, relatively light and quite durable. real leather!
    Weaknesses:the stitching right on the tip of the nose can sometimes scratch
    Similar Products Used:SDG, WTB, specialized, selle italia
    Bike Setup:a few different ones
    Bottom Line:my favorite saddle ever! i routinely use this on 10+ hour epic rides, it's great for both descending and ascending. and so comfortable! this will be my saddle for a long, long time on all of my bikes...
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Larry a Cross Country Rider from Nicagua, Missouri
    Date Reviewed: October 31, 2007
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Purchased At:Promotional
    Strengths:well designed
    Weaknesses:Hurts, hurts, hurts...if you ride a lot. I ride eight, ten, 15 hour days...many in a row.
    Similar Products Used:Nothing compares...as negatively that is. If that's the similarity we're talking about.
    Bottom Line:I rode 3000 miles around Europe last year and I stupidly kept this one because of a contract...all I can say is F#
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Dave a Cross Country Rider from WI
    Date Reviewed: June 25, 2007
    Favorite Trail:all of them
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Purchased At:koobi.com
    Strengths:Awesome. The Enduro is the Alpha and Omega to all my cycling saddles. I can ride with or without cycling shorts with NO discomfort. First time I could ever ride longer rides without cycling shorts. Makes it nice for shorter/casual jaunts on the tandem. No numbness for "the boys," and the shape also takes the jolt out of some of the seated hits on the trail.
    Weaknesses:I don't like the stitching on the top of the nose of the saddle a lot... or at least that area of the saddle could have a more rounded profile. (near the front of the cutout)
    Similar Products Used:Liked WTB SST for a while, then got chafing in some not-so-nice areas due to the gradual transistion from the nose to the rear of the saddle. Then went to Avocet O2. Better taper (more abrupt with the "racing" version), but not as nice on the boys. Koobi is the best of both worlds.
    Bike Setup:GT hardtail, Schwinn road and fixie, Cannondale tandem... the Enduro is on all of them.
    Bottom Line:A "sit bone" saddle. If you like that type of saddle... here it is.

    Need to see how they hold up in the long term, but for now, it's the ultimate saddle in my book. I've searched years for it, and finally found it.
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Chris a Weekend Warrior from Washington, DC
    Date Reviewed: April 19, 2007
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $70.00
    Purchased At:Koobi.com
    Similar Products Used:Terry Fly
    Bottom Line:Best bike product I've ever bought-- this is the only saddle that works for me. Very comfortable.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Chalmer a Weekend Warrior from Hackensack, NJ
    Date Reviewed: April 4, 2007
    Duration Product Used:More than 3 years
    Price Paid: $60.00
    Purchased At:bikeusa.com
    Strengths:Comfortable, Fairly Light and Durable
    Weaknesses:None
    Similar Products Used:WTB and SDG
    Bike Setup:Kona and OnOne SingleSpeed
    Bottom Line:I gotta give this saddle 2 thumbs up. Been using the same 2 saddles for the past 5 years and until now they are still comfy, intact and working as intended. My butt is happy and glad with this saddle.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by muzza a Weekend Warrior from crawford busharagua
    Date Reviewed: August 11, 2006
    Favorite Trail:tranquility base
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Price Paid: $75.00
    Strengths:
    Lowers S.A.H. index a lot. Ride longer & more comfy.Improves pedalling efficiency.
    Weaknesses:Had to slide the rails 1/2" further forward than the mfr's reccomended marks to prevent overextending the spine. This could be unintended interaction with the Fisher Genesis top tube thing or the legendary Thudbuster top tube lengthening effect.
    Similar Products Used:stock fisher tazz bontranger saddle. Koobi is first upscale non-stock saddle purchase.
    Bike Setup:fish tazz ht with hayes HFX nines, thudbuster, wellgo clip /platform combos, ergon grips + this new toy.
    Bottom Line:Other posts speak of extra width on this saddle. Opposite here. AU Enduro is narrower than the stock Bont anyway & hits my sit bones perfectly. Anatomical slot along the entire top = super comfy. "Break in" time was only about 1 hour & mostly meant getting used to new contact points. Could be ignorance, but the "nose" is longer & flatter & seems to add comfort. The bike shop guy said this saddle is used a lot on road bikes... but his mtbiker boss swears by AU Enduro for dirt mongrels too. And he can buy whatever he wants. I like this saddle a lot.
    Value Rating:3Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Rob a from florida
    Date Reviewed: May 16, 2006
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $75.00
    Purchased At:koobi.com
    Strengths:Mucho comfortable, didnt even know it was there, except that if it wasn't well that just wouldnt be in my interest. great customer service.
    Similar Products Used:wtb (power v, rocket v, laser v) sdg bel aire
    Bike Setup:Bullit - thompson post/stem Koobi - King HS - vanilla rlc - 5th - 9's -
    Bottom Line:5-10 210lbs rode wtb's and liked all but the power v (rash), but the koobi is wicked comfortable, smooth dont even know its there, no hard pressure points (taint protection), seats are completely personal but if you get to try a koobi its defintately worth it.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Jim a Cross Country Rider from Baycity, tx, usa
    Date Reviewed: March 11, 2006
    Favorite Trail:Closest
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Price Paid: $90.00
    Purchased At:koobi.com
    Strengths:Love that gap.
    This saddle's main strength, in my opinion, is the design of the gap, or channel, or urethra/perineum ditch that provides an opening for blood to flow to my winkie while riding. Adjustment has been easier, as I don't have to tip the saddle as far down/forward to obtain pain/numbness free results. This was some of the best biking money I have spent.
    Weaknesses:None so far.
    Similar Products Used:Myriad.
    Bike Setup:MTB, S-Works enduro complete with gears, tires, brakes, and stuff.
    Road - Specialized Sirrus with just about the same type stuff as above.
    Bottom Line:If you're a guy who has had pain/numbness issues you owe it to yourself and s.o. to try this saddle.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Daniel a Cross Country Rider from The ATL
    Date Reviewed: January 27, 2006
    Favorite Trail:1996 Olympic
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Price Paid: $130.00
    Purchased At:koobi
    Strengths:This review is for the PRS enduro with the elastomer suspension! Looks, quality, comfort, and prs.
    Weaknesses:Because of price makes me a bit paraniod about messing it up. Takes a while to clean because dirt gets in the suspension area but not a real problem.
    Similar Products Used:Selle Flight, Fizik Nisene and others not worth the mention
    Bike Setup:04 Switchblade with lotts of nice stuff
    Bottom Line:The PRS Enduro is the nicest saddle I've put my butt on. It is a little wide but like a previous review wrote it is not an issue after a few rides. The elastomers really make a difference (especially on a hard tail) as they absorb a lot of the jolts that would normally hit your t'aint and lower back. No more sore spots or numbness because of the suspension and the center groove. Another strength not mentioned is that I can disassemble the entire saddle my self since you have to to change elastomers or to clean it and that way if you do damage something you don't have to ship the whole thing back. Did I mention it looks very trick?
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Mr. Koobi a Weekend Warrior from Strong Island, NY USA
    Date Reviewed: September 30, 2005
    Favorite Trail:All roads to Montauk
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $89.00
    Purchased At:Koobi
    Strengths:I can feel my groin again! The "split" saddle design prevents neurologic compression of the groin area.
    Weaknesses:Could have a slightly more contouring leather, aka Brooks
    Similar Products Used:Bontrager stock saddle on my Madone (I know I'm in Mtb review)
    Bike Setup:Madone 5.9 Project One paint "lightning", Koobi saddle, Stella Azzura Tirrone ergonomic bars, Look Keo's, with Sidi Genius 5's, and Continental Attack tires
    Bottom Line:Great saddle!! After going numb for the first 4 months of owning my bike, I extensively researched saddles, and decided on a Koobi. The higher end saddle with adjustable springs didn't make much sense, again due to lack of conformity. The real question is why didn't I just buy a Brooks saddle. The reason is the center trough, which unloads the nerves which innervate the pelvic area. Even with a Brooks this would be a problem. When I went to purchase a saddle for my son they didn't have the saddle in stock so Koobi forwarded a "Tri" saddle, and stated if I didn't want to keep it they would take it back when their order came in!! Great personal service, and we kept the Tri saddle. Highly reccommend Enduro Au
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by John Maxfield a Cross Country Rider from Hailey Idaho
    Date Reviewed: May 25, 2004
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Purchased At:Koobi.com
    Strengths:Comfort, Ergonomic design
    Weaknesses:None yet
    Similar Products Used:stock saddle provided at original purchase
    Bike Setup:Klein Palomino race
    Bottom Line:I didn't realize how uncomfortable my old seat was until I mounted my Koobi and took a few rides.
    I was somewhat concerned about the width of the seat but soon after riding, any of my concerns disappeared.
    Customer service was attentive and quick. I read a prior review in which the service was knocked, and I must say I had the opposite experience thanks to Phil at Koobi.
    I will write another review if any negatives surface otherwise I'll be busy riding.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Bryan a Cross Country Rider from Acworth, GA
    Date Reviewed: May 25, 2004
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Price Paid: $69.00
    Purchased At:Koobi on sale
    Strengths:very tough after 18 months and many crashes it still looked new.
    Weaknesses:none
    Similar Products Used:many different seats
    Bike Setup:Hardtail now, but my new one is going on my new X5
    Bottom Line:Thought I'd give Phil some props for taking care of his customers. I bought a AU Enduro about 18 months ago on sale. What a great seat it fit me perfect, but if it didn't fit I had some time where I could have traded it out for another model.

    Anyhow I crashed going into a corner a few months ago and bent the rails. Most seat mishaps on the trail I've seen leave the seat and rails separated. On my seat the rails and seat were just bent so I could finish the ride. Koobi would inspect the seat and change the rails for $20. Mine ended up being broken in the nose, so they gave me a credit twords a new one. That translated to a 50% discount on a brand new seat. They could have told me the thing was toast and tough luck; crashes happen.

    Nice to see customer service these days
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Kapusta a Weekend Warrior from Lakeville, CT
    Date Reviewed: January 25, 2004
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Price Paid: $55.00
    Purchased At:ebay
    Strengths:Firm, and very comfortable over a long haul. I love the shape. Costomer service was great.
    Weaknesses:The points of the nose get caught on my shorts every so often.
    Similar Products Used:Too numerous to count.
    Bike Setup:2003 Heckler, before that a 2000 Superlight.
    Bottom Line:It did not take me any time to adjust to this saddle. I knew I wanted the weight on my sit bones. I tried a friends Koobi Si for a day and I was in heaven, so I decided to try one of Koobi's firmer ones. I have been very happy with it. My only complaint is that the nose of it is very pointy with the split thing going on and every so often my shorts catch on it. I'm going to put it on my road bike. I just bought a Terry Firefly to try something different on my mountain bike. It is a little narrower in the back which I like because it makes it easier for me to get behind the saddle. Also the nose is not as pointy. I hope it treats my toosh as well as the Koobi.

    Customer service was great when I broke it in a wreck. The saddle was about 6 months old and it broke after my bike sailed about 10 feet a good 4 feet in the air and landed square on the saddle. I sent it in to be repaired and was not asking or expecting it to be warrentied. I told them excactly what happened. I considered it my own fault. They sent me a new one.

    Great saddle, the best I've tried so far.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Seth a Cross Country Rider from Athens, OH. US
    Date Reviewed: November 19, 2003
    Favorite Trail:damifino, Sedona
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Price Paid: $80.00
    Purchased At:koobi website
    Strengths:None
    Weaknesses:Buying the saddle
    Similar Products Used:WTB laser V ti
    Bike Setup:S=works enduro
    Bottom Line:THis is the worst saddle that I've ever wasted money on. Left me hanging literally back in the mountains of VA. Seems that the enduro was named after a pipe dream. This thing didn't hold up to ONE real ride,,,,,seriously!!!!
    One ride, 80$ you do the math. Oh yeah, customer service....there is none!!! They didn't believe that you could break one so easily....well you can. 90 day waranty....don't let it go 91...even if you just commuted with it. Seems that they don't back up their products....too bad that a small company doesn't listen to their clientel. DON'T BUY ONE. Would give zero chilis if I could.
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Zman a Cross Country Rider from Sacramento, CA
    Date Reviewed: September 3, 2003
    Favorite Trail:Salmon Falls
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $60.00
    Purchased At:koobi.com
    Strengths:Comfy once it's broken in. No numbness.
    Weaknesses:None yet!
    Similar Products Used:Serfas gel, specialized gel, gel seat covers, factory seat on Giant Rainier
    Bike Setup:Giant Rainier, XT/Mavic 3.1 rims, Titec stem/bars, koobi saddle
    Bottom Line:It only took a couple of rides before this was the most comfortable saddle I've used. I ride almost every day and the seat still looks like new after a year! I haven't noticed any change in the padding/feel of the saddle over time. Very sturdy and comfortable. I weigh 175 now, but was about 220 when I bought the saddle.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Ray a Cross Country Rider from St. Louis
    Date Reviewed: June 9, 2003
    Favorite Trail:Chubb
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Price Paid: $70.00
    Purchased At:Koobi.com
    Strengths:Comfortable once you're broken in, no numbness.
    Weaknesses:the rails hold up well enough in strength, but the outer coating flakes off and there is some rust accumulation.
    Similar Products Used:Stock saddles.
    Bike Setup:I've got Enduros on both of my bikes.
    Bottom Line:If you suffer from numbness, do yourself a favor and try this seat. It will take a while to get used to it, as now 90% of your weight is on the sit bones (10% on soft tissues), instead of the 70/30% ratio of a traditional seat. So, yes, my butt was sore for the first few rides until I got used to it. If...when you buy one, give it a chance. You will need to readjust to the new weight distribution, but your soft tissues will thank you for it. This is not a plush lazyboy type of seat and I race with mine, even if it is heavier than the SLRs I see the guys running these days.

    Plus, I am a confirmed clydesdale up over 210 most days, so this seat holds up well for a bigger guy, too. My first saddle is still going strong after two seasons, and I picked up another one this winter for the new bike.

    When I climb, I'm all over the saddle, front to back and even with the split nose, it's fine. The kevlar corners have held up really well, even after bailing off the bike in crashes.

    Lastly, I'd just like to thank the folks at Koobi for making this seat. I don't experience any numbness these days, thanks to the great center channel they've cut out of it.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Dylan a Weekend Warrior from Santa Barbara, CA
    Date Reviewed: May 28, 2003
    Favorite Trail:Jesusita
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $69.00
    Purchased At:koobi.com
    Strengths:after lots of research I chose this saddle. The design and shape are perfect. The padding is a bit too firm. I called Koobi, (great service!...Thx Phil) and I spoke to Phil Schwietzer. I explained my dilemma to him. After 30 days it had become softer after it broke in but it wasn't soft enough for rides over 30 miles. Phile talked me into the Tri.....much softer with the gel top. If you're under 160 this saddle might be good. I'm 185 and the sit bones and region became numb/sore. Try the Tri....
    Weaknesses:padding isn't soft enough for heavier riders
    Similar Products Used:Tri
    Bike Setup:Gary Fisher, Hayes discs, Tri saddle, Deore/XT, Marzocchi comp and Sun Rynolites.
    Bottom Line:Try it....you always have 30 days to return it. The ppl are Koobli are helpful and want you to be happy with their product.
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:3

    Submitted by Eric W. a Cross Country Rider from Pleasanton CA
    Date Reviewed: May 13, 2003
    Favorite Trail:Any place with trees and hills
    Duration Product Used:Tested or demo'ed only
    Price Paid: $69.00
    Purchased At:Koobi.com
    Strengths:Good shape, color scheme, good fore and aft adjustment range and construction.
    Weaknesses:Padding not thick or firm enough for my 210 lbs.
    Similar Products Used:Body Geometry sport and Terry Mens Liberator.
    Bike Setup:FSRxc
    Bottom Line:
    I liked this saddle a lot over-all, but the padding is not thick and/or firm enough for my 210 lbs, as soon as I sat on it, my "sit-bones" sank straight to the plastic shell, which needless to say, hurt.
    I liked the shape of the Au Enduro, just not the padding.
    I don't "love" my Body Geometry Sport, but its going back on, as a compromise saddle, until someone makes a clydesdale specific seat for us ageing baby-boomers and young high school line backer types.
    I think if I was lighter, the overall rating might have been four or five chilis, but because Koobi said this saddle should have worked for someone of my weight and it didn't, I'm going to give it three chilis(good.) It did after all have really nice materials and workmanship.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:3

    Submitted by Richard a Cross Country Rider from Stratham, NH
    Date Reviewed: March 31, 2003
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $69.00
    Purchased At:Mail
    Strengths:Protects the privates.
    Weaknesses:Just a smiggit to wide, when you slide back on big drops I brush up against the seat
    Similar Products Used:Specialized Body Geo
    Bottom Line:Great saddle for protecting your privates. It does take awhile (like two or three rides) to get used to the way it fits. But whenever you transfer the pressure from the center of the seat (over a wider area) to the outside (smaller area) you get pressure focused to your seat bones. Hurts a little bit the first ride or so, then you body adjusts and it feels great. I love this saddle!
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Bill Snure a Cross Country Rider from Amarillo, Tx.
    Date Reviewed: December 26, 2002
    Favorite Trail:Palo Duro Canyon St Park
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Price Paid: $80.00
    Purchased At:online for Koobi
    Strengths:Comfortable, durable
    Weaknesses:None
    Similar Products Used:Specialized Body Geometry, WTB
    Bike Setup:Trek Fuel 100, Ellsworth Truth
    Bottom Line:The best saddle I have ever had for the kind of riding I do. I have had two Au Enduros and I could not be more pleased. They are flat comfortable and the split seat design simply works and does what it is supposed to. No numbness of the nether regions. I have ridden my current saddle over 1200 miles so far this year, all off road, one 5 day self supported trip on the White Rim Trail, an eight day trip to Copper Canyon in Mexico and 4 days on the North Rim of Grand Canyon. Multiple, long days in the saddle with no problems. The company's customer servcice is the best I've ever found regardless of the product. I initially thought I wanted a Aeon, what ever the multicolored chi chi model is but after they found out my size, 6'4" and 210#'s and the kind of epic riding I like to do, they steered me toward the Au Enduro which turned out to be perfect for me. They are more like talking to a good friend on the phone rather than a complete stranger. Obviously there are lighter saddles to be had but I doubt if there is better saddle for the weight,comfort, and durability than the Koobi. The bottom line, it is a great product and a great company.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Geremy a from Denver
    Date Reviewed: November 11, 2002
    Favorite Trail:Hall Ranch
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Price Paid: $65.00
    Purchased At:www.koobi.com
    Strengths:Comfort, light, quality construction, simple effective design
    Weaknesses:None so far
    Similar Products Used:Specialized, Flite, WTB, Bontrager, Flite Gel...you name it.
    Bike Setup:Mongoose TI Team Race frame (Sanvik hardtail), Noleen Mega Air fork, Crossmaxs, XT kit.
    Bottom Line:This is by far the most comfortable saddle I have ever used. After years of riding and trying to find comfort, this is it. Such a simple effective design, fits well everywhere, no numbnees nor "taint" pressure. I can't beleive that all the other saddle makers in the world are still in business. To me, this saddle is that good. I am getting one for my roadie. I know, I know, saddles are all personal preferrence . But that only holds up to a point. When a saddle is uncomfortable, everyone thinks it is uncomforatble, and vice versa. So, basically, a saddle has to have the right design for it to be comforatbale for anyone, and this design is pretty damn good. After all, we all have the same respective parts down there...I think!
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by jeff a Weekend Warrior from Spokane,Wa. U.S.A.
    Date Reviewed: October 7, 2002
    Favorite Trail:Devils Gulch
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $65.00
    Purchased At:koobi.com
    Strengths:Comfort.
    Weaknesses:none
    Similar Products Used:WTB-SST, selle italia Flite, SDG-Belair
    Bike Setup:i-drive
    Bottom Line:No more numb bits. After enduring "tired-butt" for many a ride, I have now found nirvana. I tried the Koobi Xenon, and found it to be too hard for my 6'4" 160lb. derriere. Fortunately, the 30 day return policy gave me the opportunity to find the AU Enduro. Thanks Phil, at Koobi. You're customer service is A-One! If you are experiencing T.B., give a koobi a try.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Pete a Cross Country Rider from Lakewood
    Date Reviewed: August 12, 2002
    Favorite Trail:Colorado Trail: Kenosha to Breck
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Strengths:amazing comfort
    Good padding
    Weaknesses:none
    Similar Products Used:whatever comes on my bikes and then some.
    Bike Setup:Trek STP 400
    Yeti-ASR
    Bottom Line:I never thought I would become so attached to a saddle, but I have. It's slightly on the heavy side for a weight weenie, but I love this saddle. It's just SO comfortable.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Rick a Cross Country Rider from Costa Mesa, CA USA
    Date Reviewed: May 21, 2002
    Favorite Trail:El Morro, Aliso Woods, San Juan
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $69.00
    Purchased At:Koobi online
    Strengths:Well built, fairly light, comfortable
    Weaknesses:None
    Similar Products Used:Specialized saddles, Live Wire
    Bike Setup:FSR S-works, XTR/XT
    Bottom Line:I have ridden this saddle about 800 miles, and I love it. I rode with it on my hardtail for the better part of 7 months and now on my FS. The noticeable lack of pain and numbness is amazing. I never really realized how bad my other saddles were. This saddle is slightly smaller and has a turned down nose, which I like. It is a great saddle. Buy it; you will be happy (so will you wife or girlfriend) you did.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by DrHog a Cross Country Rider from Las Vegas, NV, USA
    Date Reviewed: April 16, 2002
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Price Paid: $69.00
    Purchased At:LBS
    Strengths:Comfortable on privates, durable, well shaped, and reasonably lightweight
    Weaknesses:A little sparse on padding for the sit-bones
    Similar Products Used:The first Koobi saddle, Flite Ti
    Bike Setup:Fisher Sugar custom
    Bottom Line:This is my second Koobi, and I am reasonably happy with it. My biggest beef with the first on was the all-leather construction, which didn't hold up too well to the rigors of technical riding (and falling). The kevlar patches on this rig fix that problem nicely. I never get any numbness with this saddle, which is the main reason I went with it again. On long rides (over 2 hours), or multi-day trips, I find myself shifting around a lot on the saddle to ease the pain on my sit-bones. This leaves me wanting for a lit more padding, either on the saddle or on my butt (preferably the saddle). Since I'm 95% happy with it, I'll still give it 5 flamers.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Joe Martin a Weekend Warrior from Sultan, WA.
    Date Reviewed: November 18, 2001
    Favorite Trail: